if they are greater, where is their medal (order of cultural merit) though?
downplaying has gone delulu again.
Ask government. What I try to point out is that winning academy award is more reliable and competency requirement for military exemption
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no matter how much you twist and turn it, nobody comes close to bts & what they have achieved.
That’s definitely not correct. In music industry, BTS is the biggest artist NOW, but DBSK, BB, EXO were also BIGGEST at their time. BTS achieved the most at this time but 10 years ago, DBSK achieved biggest at their time. So they should have been deserved exemption. And that’s how controversy happened. I don’t want to mention other fields like movies, art, … because BTS can’t compare to other artists, actors. Any actors who acted on Parasite should be the one deserved exemption, they won Academy award, not fan vote awards.
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I'm not gonna discuss other country's laws. Whether they go or not isn't my business.
However, the statement that you made "The only reason BTS is given it today is because politics deemed it something that can benefit them for today's younger generation of voting public." is something i don't agree with at all.
BTS's impact is the sole reason why they are being so heavily considered. And none of the groups you mentioned have that impact. So no, they didn't earn this as much as BTS.
The fact that there wasn't even a discussion about exemption when others enlisted is enough proof.
However, military exemption can’t be just be judged by government. It is the law and they have a system to determine who are deserved for exemption and how it applies to everyone. The same for sport, maybe they require certain award in music for exemption. I can see something like BTS got a Grammy may sound more reasonable. There was a discussion from military about No.1 BB and how they found the achievements doesn’t sound good enough for exemption, considering how their No.1 was funded by oversea fan to bulk buy their music in the US.
Back in 2019, superM can score an inorganic No.1 B200, so are they deserved for exemption? Back to now, BTS score No.1 BB100 with fan manipulation sale, got heaps of backlash from media. Very similar story with SuperM in 2019.
Also, Culture impact/ economic contribution doesn’t sound like a proper requirement. Bigbang, EXO, DBSK and many Korean actors led the way for first and second Korean wave, they should deserve the exemption as well, but they did not. The first and second wave helped Kpop spread through Asian, it was a huge achievement 10 years ago. Economic contribution also controversial, if BTS contribute to SK economy, how about CEO of big SK companies? Samsung LG CEO, director , creative team also contributed to SK economy, should they be deserved exemption?
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I don’t like other companies using BTS for their military discussion. But BTS already said they will go no matter the outcome is, they just do what they said. Those discussions don’t mean anything.
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This makes no sense. Twice was using a sound Korea absolutely loved, it was their consistent music style they basically had since day 1 and that started to end in 2019, just after Yes or Yes their last number 1 and last song to get a PAK. Promotions were also much more Korea centric at that time.
In 2019 they moved their sound slightly away to Fancy and it did pretty good, it was different but people were on board. But they kind of didn't really promote. This time, 2019, was also the last time JYP seriously promoted Twice in Japan also.
As time went on Twice moved further and further from the sound Korea fell in love with, the music that made them darlings of Korea and Japan. The decline started due to group and company decisions. They moved from what made them great in East Asia in order to grow outside on platforms like Spotify and appeal to western fans and it worked, but cost them Korea and eventually Japan as the music got further and further away from what Twice were known for and their promotions became far less focused on Korea and almost non existent in Japan.
The change in Twice didn't happen as a response to decline in primary markets, rather it was the catalyst for it and for what? 50k sales in the US and 3 weeks on BB200? A possible chance at charting on BB100 for a week? They sacrificed Twice's domestic success for that? I mean what are Twice even doing these days?
They are soon in their 30s, their sound needs to change. Also, Fancy and FS already happened, you can’t turn back in time. FS sound more like their old concept, but still not really successful. So why not try in the West?
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What can JYP do? Twice lost their moments in Korea, JP is doing all right, slightly decline. The west shows some growth for Twice. JYP is smart, they should try something in the West and if it turns out kind of medium success, it would help Twice rise back in Korea.
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2NE1's biggest songs were bigger than anything Miss A did really, and overall did better digitally than the Wonder Girls as far as career average. 2NE1 has a few songs that still stay in the Melon 1000 or regularly re-enter. Miss A and Wonder Girls usually don't. Shows how well the hits aged.
2NE1 also was the only girl group that did extremely well with b-sides.
They are paid dust be the people on this forum.No, WG overall is bigger than 2NE1, WG had 3 national hits before 2010, while Goan started in 2010.
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I said the same thing like this few weeks ago and The fans still in denial. BTS longevity in top 10 is not that great
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Gaon use filtered data/streams. As someone said usually around 600-700m digital points or iirc around 60-70m total melon UL is usally when songs get their first 100m certification.
Unfiltered streams just means every single stream is counted. Someone streams a song 10x/hour, all those will be counted.
Gaon,as far as is known, use data filtered on UL/day, the same as all the domestic charts use for their daily charts.
Regarding bots/multiple accounts its still possbile on melon, just much harder then it used to be for overseas users, ever since they implemented stricter requirements in 2015(?), korean phone number, ip etc.
MelOn account without phone number is not allowing you to stream song
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The way queendom loses uls in the weekend. It always falls below ohayo my night and ptd in the weekend and then rises back up.
That’s quite interesting, it happened few times already, happen like late Sunday, suddenly drop less uls and gain stronger on Monday morning
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This remix should be the version sent to the radio and promoted on big playlists, the original one just too boring. Meghan part really made the song more enjoyable. BTS may need more female vocal on their song. The remix came out too late and could not change much to the bad chart performance of the original one on streaming sites.
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BE is not included because it was released before December
So what BTS released in Jan ? They gainEd uls in Jan right?
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NL gained more YouTube stream than Dynamite in its 16th weeks without a comeback? That’s crazy.
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They only released 3 songs.
They include everyone. Justin Bieber is #2.
I think the graph still wrong, BE was released in end of Nov, no way BTS gain 0 uls in Dec.
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Who made you the mayor of BTS? they will sing and release songs they want. How about you just don’t listen?
And why don’t I have the right to give out my opinion?
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And also BB and their shooters can suck it. Chart manipulators continue your shit. I can’t believe 1.2B just from US. I wonder what’s the number worldwide
And Butter and PTS stream in the US is on the way out of top 200 US Spotify chart. I don’t understand why army’s are still in denier. BB has the right to call out the issue, they did the same for everyone. BB has given BTS a pass for Dynamite but fans has been manipulating more aggressively with Butter, while the streams kept going downhills.
