[POLL] Le Sserafim vs Aespa US performance

Oh I expected LSFM to be more live than Aespa but doesn’t look like it.

But I guess they’re at least better dancers and performers.

LE SSERAFIM, but they did have a real stage and good lighting.

LE SSERAFIM girlies are getting prettier as they age.

Easily Le Sserafim. Aespa's performance was a hot mess.

Wish the mics were louder on LSF's stage but other than that, the energy and stage presence >>>>>>>>>>

LSRFM obviously had the better performance, like it's not even close, but to be fair, they also weren't set up with awkward staging, poor camera work and shit choreo. They're both lip syncing, so really not much to compare there. Put LSRFM in the same setting as Aespa and how do they adapt?

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LSRFM obviously had the better performance, like it's not even close, but to be fair, they also weren't set up with awkward staging, poor camera work and shit choreo. They're both lip syncing, so really not much to compare there. Put LSRFM in the same setting as Aespa and how do they adapt?

LSF was not lip syncing. Their mics are turned down but still on.

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Easily Le Sserafim. Aespa's performance was a hot mess.

Love the reference 😉

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LSF was not lip syncing. Their mics are turned down but still on.

If you can't be heard over the backing track, you're lip syncing.

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If you can't be heard over the backing track, you're lip syncing.

No one says this.

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No one says this.

I'm someone and I just said it.

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I'm someone and I just said it.

Unnecessary poll. The answer is obvious.

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Oh I expected LSFM to be more live than Aespa but doesn’t look like it.

But I guess they’re at least better dancers and performers.

Yeah neither truly sang live i think.

GMA's stage is clearly designed for rock bands tbh and other vocal focused acts, not for Kpop choreo. Too bad idiot SM didnt recognize this obvious detail and forced Aespa to look dreadful.

You’re being evil with that one, lol. At least show a fair comparison 🤣

One was filmed in a tiny room with barely any camera work and 9–10 fans… the other is on a huge stage with all the bells and whistles—cameras, lighting fixes, screaming audience. Big mood difference

I just have no clue what SM is thinking, ever. This kind of appearance would be the perfect opportunity to make a big impact with live vocals, the song and choreo are also seem pretty manageable for live singing.

Definitely prefer LSFM by a lot here.

hmmm unfair comparison

im voting aespa

Who are the 7 people omg

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Who are the 7 people omg

one is me cause this is a crap poll

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one is me cause this is a crap poll

You mean crap performance

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You mean crap performance

the goal of this thread is not to evalute aespas performance, but to bait people into unfairly claiming aespa are worst performers eventhough they were set in much worst circumstances than le sserafim and shouldn't really be compared.

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the goal of this thread is not to evalute aespas performance, but to bait people into unfairly claiming aespa are worst performers eventhough they were set in much worst circumstances than le sserafim and shouldn't really be compared.

Sure

So these 2 performances aside, do you think aespa are stronger or LSFM are stronger performers??

Don't give me the "oh aespa are better singers but SM DON'T allow them to sing live so it looks like they are weaker performers" sort of excuse

Just plain and simple, who in general are better performers LSFM or aespa

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Sure

So these 2 performances aside, do you think aespa are stronger or LSFM are stronger performers??

Don't give me the "oh aespa are better singers but SM DON'T allow them to sing live so it looks like they are weaker performers" sort of excuse

Just plain and simple, who in general are better performers LSFM or aespa

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i have 0 interest in le serafim and i don't care in general for live performances.

So i will say Aespa.

why are you doin this?

both lipsync but at least le sserafim were enjoyable to watch

I don't even know what people mean by performers.

for me performers specially in kpop are mainly singers (they don't need to all be main vocal uh just all be able to sing in tune and sing their parts well) , and who can dance decently with maybe one or two more dance focused memebers.

when you can barely hold a note as a group overall, you don't even qualify to be called a 'good' performer for me. maybe good dancers or smth, but kpop performer? nah.

specially in this case when aespa are by far the most powerful vocal group since mamamoo.

vocals>>>choreos/dance anytime anyday.

kpop choreos look good because they're well made and learned/masteread with a rough and thorough rehearsal/training. with the right camera work etc...but most of the kpop performers are pretty average in reality, just like ssera. and i actually think aespa has a better dancing line than them. winter/nn are GOOD and karina as well. sakura and giselle are around the same. it's just than hybe are way more demanding in term of choreos than sm.

actually hybe is ALL about choreos and dancing.

aespa memebrs are overall more charismatic too, nn and winter have the best stage presence and aespa members have more star factor. honeslty, they're all beasts except Gigi. I find her too inconstitant, she's like the weakest link in my opinion. And it stands out because they're only four.

since ssera don't even focus on vocals, their songs have more outlandish choreos. it might be fun to watch for some, but for me it's only smokes. personally i am just a core voice lover. all my faves are lead vocals or have pretty tones.

I'm writing this because apparently some people started to question aespa as performers overall, aside of just this gma performance.

It's simple, the song needed a group choreo and a specific camera work, otherwise it would be difficult to make it look half as good as their perforances on k broadcasts.

It wasn't as terrible as people make it out to be tho. And the fancams from the show look and sound better than this. The girls are also severly overwoked and looked a bit tired.

Anyway, mistakes are made to make you improve.

And I do feel like as soon as aespa shows some weakness, all their rival's fandoms start to attack aespa very harshly, almost obssessively. I feels more like revenge than just mere opinions. They just wanna convince themsevles that their faves are definitly better .

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I don't even know what people mean by performers.

for me performers specially in kpop are mainly singers (they don't need to all be main vocal uh just all be able to sing in tune and sing their parts well) , and who can dance decently with maybe one or two more dance focused memebers.

when you can barely hold a note as a group overall, you don't even qualify to be called a 'good' performer for me. maybe good dancers or smth, but kpop performer? nah.

specially in this case when aespa are by far the most powerful vocal group since mamamoo.

vocals>>>choreos/dance anytime anyday.

kpop choreos look good because they're well made and learned/masteread with a rough and thorough rehearsal/training. with the right camera work etc...but most of the kpop performers are pretty average in reality, just like ssera. and i actually think aespa has a better dancing line than them. winter/nn are GOOD and karina as well. sakura and giselle are around the same. it's just than hybe are way more demanding in term of choreos than sm.

aespa memebrs are overall more charismatic too, nn and winter have the best stage presence and aespa members have more star factor. honeslty, they're all beasts except Gigi. I find her too inconstitant, she's like the weakest link in my opinion. And it stands out because they're only four.

since ssera don't even focus on vocals, their songs have more outlandish choreos. it might be fun to watch for some, but for me it's only smokes. personally i am just a core voice lover. all my faves are lead vocals or have pretty tones.

I'm writing this because apparently some people started to question aespa as performers overall, aside of just this gma performance.

It's simple, the song needed a group choreo and a specific camera work, otherwise it would be difficult to make it look half as good as their perforances on k broadcasts.

It wasn't as terrible as people make it out to be tho. And the fancams from the show look and sound better than this. The girls are also severly overwoked and looked a bit tired.

Anyway, mistakes are made to make you improve.

And I do feel like as soon as aespa shows some weakness, all their rival's fandoms start to attack aespa very harshly, almost obssessively. I feels more like revenge than just mere opinions. They just wanna convince themsevles that their faves are definitly better .

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this is one of very few polls that LSF has won on AKP in the past year or so and all of a sudden its "unfair" just because your faves are losing? lol.

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I don't even know what people mean by performers.

for me performers specially in kpop are mainly singers (they don't need to all be main vocal uh just all be able to sing in tune and sing their parts well) , and who can dance decently with maybe one or two more dance focused memebers.

when you can barely hold a note as a group overall, you don't even qualify to be called a 'good' performer for me. maybe good dancers or smth, but kpop performer? nah.

specially in this case when aespa are by far the most powerful vocal group since mamamoo.

vocals>>>choreos/dance anytime anyday.

kpop choreos look good because they're well made and learned/masteread with a rough and thorough rehearsal/training. with the right camera work etc...but most of the kpop performers are pretty average in reality, just like ssera. and i actually think aespa has a better dancing line than them. winter/nn are GOOD and karina as well. sakura and giselle are around the same. it's just than hybe are way more demanding in term of choreos than sm.

actually hybe is ALL about choreos and dancing.

aespa memebrs are overall more charismatic too, nn and winter have the best stage presence and aespa members have more star factor. honeslty, they're all beasts except Gigi. I find her too inconstitant, she's like the weakest link in my opinion. And it stands out because they're only four.

since ssera don't even focus on vocals, their songs have more outlandish choreos. it might be fun to watch for some, but for me it's only smokes. personally i am just a core voice lover. all my faves are lead vocals or have pretty tones.

I'm writing this because apparently some people started to question aespa as performers overall, aside of just this gma performance.

It's simple, the song needed a group choreo and a specific camera work, otherwise it would be difficult to make it look half as good as their perforances on k broadcasts.

It wasn't as terrible as people make it out to be tho. And the fancams from the show look and sound better than this. The girls are also severly overwoked and looked a bit tired.

Anyway, mistakes are made to make you improve.

And I do feel like as soon as aespa shows some weakness, all their rival's fandoms start to attack aespa very harshly, almost obssessively. I feels more like revenge than just mere opinions. They just wanna convince themsevles that their faves are definitly better .

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You have no idea what you're talking about.

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I don't even know what people mean by performers.

for me performers specially in kpop are mainly singers (they don't need to all be main vocal uh just all be able to sing in tune and sing their parts well) , and who can dance decently with maybe one or two more dance focused memebers.

when you can barely hold a note as a group overall, you don't even qualify to be called a 'good' performer for me. maybe good dancers or smth, but kpop performer? nah.

specially in this case when aespa are by far the most powerful vocal group since mamamoo.

vocals>>>choreos/dance anytime anyday.

kpop choreos look good because they're well made and learned/masteread with a rough and thorough rehearsal/training. with the right camera work etc...but most of the kpop performers are pretty average in reality, just like ssera. and i actually think aespa has a better dancing line than them. winter/nn are GOOD and karina as well. sakura and giselle are around the same. it's just than hybe are way more demanding in term of choreos than sm.

actually hybe is ALL about choreos and dancing.

aespa memebrs are overall more charismatic too, nn and winter have the best stage presence and aespa members have more star factor. honeslty, they're all beasts except Gigi. I find her too inconstitant, she's like the weakest link in my opinion. And it stands out because they're only four.

since ssera don't even focus on vocals, their songs have more outlandish choreos. it might be fun to watch for some, but for me it's only smokes. personally i am just a core voice lover. all my faves are lead vocals or have pretty tones.

I'm writing this because apparently some people started to question aespa as performers overall, aside of just this gma performance.

It's simple, the song needed a group choreo and a specific camera work, otherwise it would be difficult to make it look half as good as their perforances on k broadcasts.

It wasn't as terrible as people make it out to be tho. And the fancams from the show look and sound better than this. The girls are also severly overwoked and looked a bit tired.

Anyway, mistakes are made to make you improve.

And I do feel like as soon as aespa shows some weakness, all their rival's fandoms start to attack aespa very harshly, almost obssessively. I feels more like revenge than just mere opinions. They just wanna convince themsevles that their faves are definitly better .

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Speak your truth

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this is one of very few polls that LSF has won on AKP in the past year or so and all of a sudden its "unfair" just because your faves are losing? lol.

so this is the only way serafim can "win" a poll in AKP

dear lord i didn't know

im so sorry

i take back what i said

le seraffim need the win

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Who are the 7 people omg

Haters of your beloved Dreamy6?

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so this is the only way serafim can "win" a poll in AKP

dear lord i didn't know

im so sorry

i take back what i said

le seraffim need the win

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OH, so this is supposed to be a gag. yikes um. got me there...?

Also, let me just say

Vocals doesn't mean shit unless you actually like erm....use them?

Like how you gonna say someone is a great vocalist when they don't even sing live like 90% of the time.

Not singing with a huge backtrack, because aespa doesn't even do that.

You can only use the "they already proven to have great vocals so it doesn't matter if they lipsync," if you proven your worth for at least like what 10 year career of actually singing live. Which at this rate aespa would need like 40 more years of doing it considering 90% is lipsync so it would take 40 years to have at least 10 years worth of proving yourself singing live

Else spare me the bullshit

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I don't even know what people mean by performers.

for me performers specially in kpop are mainly singers (they don't need to all be main vocal uh just all be able to sing in tune and sing their parts well) , and who can dance decently with maybe one or two more dance focused memebers.

when you can barely hold a note as a group overall, you don't even qualify to be called a 'good' performer for me. maybe good dancers or smth, but kpop performer? nah.

specially in this case when aespa are by far the most powerful vocal group since mamamoo.

vocals>>>choreos/dance anytime anyday.

kpop choreos look good because they're well made and learned/masteread with a rough and thorough rehearsal/training. with the right camera work etc...but most of the kpop performers are pretty average in reality, just like ssera. and i actually think aespa has a better dancing line than them. winter/nn are GOOD and karina as well. sakura and giselle are around the same. it's just than hybe are way more demanding in term of choreos than sm.

actually hybe is ALL about choreos and dancing.

aespa memebrs are overall more charismatic too, nn and winter have the best stage presence and aespa members have more star factor. honeslty, they're all beasts except Gigi. I find her too inconstitant, she's like the weakest link in my opinion. And it stands out because they're only four.

since ssera don't even focus on vocals, their songs have more outlandish choreos. it might be fun to watch for some, but for me it's only smokes. personally i am just a core voice lover. all my faves are lead vocals or have pretty tones.

I'm writing this because apparently some people started to question aespa as performers overall, aside of just this gma performance.

It's simple, the song needed a group choreo and a specific camera work, otherwise it would be difficult to make it look half as good as their perforances on k broadcasts.

It wasn't as terrible as people make it out to be tho. And the fancams from the show look and sound better than this. The girls are also severly overwoked and looked a bit tired.

Anyway, mistakes are made to make you improve.

And I do feel like as soon as aespa shows some weakness, all their rival's fandoms start to attack aespa very harshly, almost obssessively. I feels more like revenge than just mere opinions. They just wanna convince themsevles that their faves are definitly better .

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What vocals? Are you talking about autotune? I have never heard Aespa actually singing without autotune or super loud backtracks. 90 percent of the time they lip sync, and the other 10 percent is all autotune and backtracks.

This is what truly live unaltered vocals sound like, and this is coming from 3rd gen's greatest vocalist. I have never once heard Aespa miss notes like this in any of their performances, all four of them must be the second coming of Lea Salonga lol.

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I don't even know what people mean by performers.

for me performers specially in kpop are mainly singers (they don't need to all be main vocal uh just all be able to sing in tune and sing their parts well) , and who can dance decently with maybe one or two more dance focused memebers.

when you can barely hold a note as a group overall, you don't even qualify to be called a 'good' performer for me. maybe good dancers or smth, but kpop performer? nah.

specially in this case when aespa are by far the most powerful vocal group since mamamoo.

vocals>>>choreos/dance anytime anyday.

kpop choreos look good because they're well made and learned/masteread with a rough and thorough rehearsal/training. with the right camera work etc...but most of the kpop performers are pretty average in reality, just like ssera. and i actually think aespa has a better dancing line than them. winter/nn are GOOD and karina as well. sakura and giselle are around the same. it's just than hybe are way more demanding in term of choreos than sm.

actually hybe is ALL about choreos and dancing.

aespa memebrs are overall more charismatic too, nn and winter have the best stage presence and aespa members have more star factor. honeslty, they're all beasts except Gigi. I find her too inconstitant, she's like the weakest link in my opinion. And it stands out because they're only four.

since ssera don't even focus on vocals, their songs have more outlandish choreos. it might be fun to watch for some, but for me it's only smokes. personally i am just a core voice lover. all my faves are lead vocals or have pretty tones.

I'm writing this because apparently some people started to question aespa as performers overall, aside of just this gma performance.

It's simple, the song needed a group choreo and a specific camera work, otherwise it would be difficult to make it look half as good as their perforances on k broadcasts.

It wasn't as terrible as people make it out to be tho. And the fancams from the show look and sound better than this. The girls are also severly overwoked and looked a bit tired.

Anyway, mistakes are made to make you improve.

And I do feel like as soon as aespa shows some weakness, all their rival's fandoms start to attack aespa very harshly, almost obssessively. I feels more like revenge than just mere opinions. They just wanna convince themsevles that their faves are definitly better .

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Too long didn’t read.

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Also, let me just say

Vocals doesn't mean shit unless you actually like erm....use them?

Like how you gonna say someone is a great vocalist when they don't even sing live like 90% of the time.

Not singing with a huge backtrack, because aespa doesn't even do that.

You can only use the "they already proven to have great vocals so it doesn't matter if they lipsync," if you proven your worth for at least like what 10 year career of actually singing live. Which at this rate aespa would need like 40 more years of doing it considering 90% is lipsync so it would take 40 years to have at least 10 years worth of proving yourself singing live

Else spare me the bullshit

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i highly doubt they are faking their vocals in the studio.

unlike miss mariah obviously

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What vocals? Are you talking about autotune? I have never heard Aespa actually singing without autotune or super loud backtracks. 90 percent of the time they lip sync, and the other 10 percent is all autotune and backtracks.

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This is what truly live unaltered vocals sound like, and this is coming from 3rd gen's greatest vocalist. I have never once heard Aespa miss notes like this in any of their performances, all four of them must be the second coming of Lea Salonga lol.

Im too lazy to do the research for you. Just look it up, there are plenty exemple. Here's a few.

And the lipsync thing is an sm problem, there is no need to drag aespa for that. Even main vocal seniors like Wendy couldn't sing live during their sm town concert. So much so that she didn't even attend.

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so this is the only way serafim can "win" a poll in AKP

dear lord i didn't know

im so sorry

i take back what i said

le seraffim need the win

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