Stray Kids fans, please educate me about the popularity of these boys in Korea!

There isn't nothing interesting to explain to be honest with you.

Their music — and maybe their image (?), since they are consistently body-shamed by koreans due to their height or criticized due to other features — just isn't likeable to this people with the exception of maybe Felix to an extent and to the niche amount of fans they have and that are enough to fill their domestic concerts.

They never made any efforts to fit any expections either, so It's not like the market would adopt them overnight. They promote more overseas and keep their signature concept. And It continues to be how It is.

Not sure how you missed this, people bring it up constantly.

But yes Korea is one of their weakest markets. Like Mina said, their sound and image is not appealing to most of SK's GP, and they aren't doing much to cater to them either. 4th gen BGs as a whole aren't big in SK, and SKZ (especially with the title tracks they pick) isn't an exception.

They still have a strong fanbase in SK anyway and sell more tickets there than most kpop groups.

contributing factors probably more marketed towards western audience(bang chan, felix) and the only member that had a chance amongst korean idol fans got into a bullying scandal. the rest probably just arent attractive enough to koreans

think the easiest way for you to find out is to ask koreans instead of skz fans since they wont know either

Koreans like to listen to things that are trendy. Since they're not trendy or a visual group they won't listen to them. Also as a rap based group they couldn't capture the male audience because it's once again not trendy for men to listen to male groups in kpop.

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Interesting, maybe because I'm not Korean, but I never thought their visuals can be the reason. I heard about body-shaming, but I think that was a long time ago. What's wrong with their heights? I mean, people don't like them because neither of them are that tall?

Tbf they don't like typical models and sexy Korean boys by Korean standards. MAMAMOO had this same problem too, but they changed the way people think about them, because their main focus was SK, so you're probably right, JYP not doing much in SK can be the reason.

Also, boy group fans are much crazier, so if they don't want to "bend the knee" so to speak, Korean won't care.

Honestly, if this is the case, I can respect that. Fck the Korean standards anyway

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I don't think It's the main factor — since their music and branding is not that appealing to Korea either — but It definitely contributes for them to not fit conventional standards and be even less likeable by the koreans who follow K-pop.

I love how MAMAMOO changed people's perception on their brand and instead of seeing them as group they wanted to be visually appealing, they respected their talent instead — especially after multiple wins on the domestic popular TV show 'Immortal Songs'. I also think MAMAMOO had the right songs to fit their taste the best.

Stray Kids is also a group that the branding is more focused on catering an audience with their talent since there's a lot of emphazis on their production and performance skills, but this image gave them more of a international clout than a domestic one.

There's only room for 1 JYPE BG in Korea

korea is tasteless, hence why skz doesn't chart that well there

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korea is tasteless

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Also, the stat below is really telling about how Koreans feel about JYP groups these days. Not sure what's going on with them, maybe they're too Westernized for them, I don't know.

It's interesting, isn't it?

It's not just Stray Kids... Day6 is the only JYPE group that Korea even seems to be aware of these days. Sometimes they remember Nmixx exists, but only sometimes. But why is that? If the groups were doing terribly everywhere, then fair enough, but that isn't the case. And usually it's just South Korea where they are nugu.

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Well they are in the same position than every BG who aren't Riize, Boynextdoor, TWS, Bts, TXT, seventeen,NCT or Bigbang in korea

They have no recognition among the general public in korea

Their populairy is mostly international

Some of these groups you mentioned are not really popular in Korea either.

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It's interesting, isn't it?

It's not just Stray Kids... Day6 is the only JYPE group that Korea even seems to be aware of these days. Sometimes they remember Nmixx exists, but only sometimes. But why is that? If the groups were doing terribly everywhere, then fair enough, but that isn't the case. And usually it's just South Korea where they are nugu.

Jype is making a profit right now so they seem to be do fine with being meh in Korea. They're saving money by not pushing themselves in their home turf.

I doubt they're going to remain comfortable since stray kids are going to have to start enlisting in the near future. They're not BTS where they can make money without having to make appearances.

You are using difference standards for Korea and oversea: in Korea popular means high chart position overalls, but oversea popular just means more popular than other kpop acts with the kpop fandom space. If you compare <number of people know the group in Korea> / <total population of Korea> with <number of people know the group oversea> / <total number of kpop fan overseas>, the later will be bigger (actually we know about kpop than most odinary Koreans). But the comparision should be with over <total population overseas>, you'll have higher chance to pick a random Korean knows about Skz than a random American.

I'm pretty sure most groups, especially big 4, are more popular in their home countries than overseas.