I invite you to do some critical thinking about Rose! (Teaser for the Alex Warren collab)

Rose is easily my "bias" in BP if we can call someone a bias just because I like her voice, and I think she's a good performer, even tho she's not a great vocalist!

I have to be honest. I feel like, she's the only Blackpink member who doesn't want to leave her comfort zone. Even Jisoo did that with her latest comeback, not to mention Jennie or Lisa. Watching this teaser of her collab with Alex Warren, made me realize, she's not gonna do challenge herself anytime soon.

People like to say IU is the Korean Taylor Swift, but I always said, this title belongs to Rose, mostly because every time I hear her sing, I think she's Taylor. She could do much more, but this song sounds like another Taylor cover.

Side note: Rose and even this guy, releases songs that I actually love, it's one of my fave genre!

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here we go again

Use your ears mate if you can. She's not a great vocalist, not even average. Only deaf people don't know this.

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he got a few weeks ban for being racist

Stop talking nonsense. I was never a racist, and I was not banned because of that. I only said, singing a song, doesn't make you a racist, and that's 100% true.

But hey, it's my fault, I was naive to think the average Kpop stans can use their brain, and not just think like a delulu fan.

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Here comes another ban

monalisalove fight

There's nothing to fight about, everything I said is true. Even BLINKS said, Rose didn't take any risk in her solo career.

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Hope you get banned again.

I hope you get a nice diarrhea.

Before clueless stans and crazy people start arguing with me, I'm not gonna write down the same thing over and over again. If you wanna argue, watch this video about Rose first. This guy basically said everything about her, and that's my opinion as well.

This thread isn't about her vocals, btw, it's about her Musical journey. If you can't stick to that, you can move along.

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Meanwhile she is sitting on her own Gangnam Style hit

So, what's your point? Both song is irritating as hell now, and let's be real, "APT" wouldn't be as big as it is now without Bruno, but Kpop stans are not ready for a conversation like this.

Also, having a massive hit doesn't mean, you left your comfort zone as a singer/musician.

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I hate the idea where you need to do different genres, try different things to be called a real artist by people who don't even appreciate you so let's start with this.

While yes, she is obviously in her comfort zone it doesn't make it any less good or less impressive. Rosé knows what she wants to portray, to say, to convey, to express and she has people tuning in to listen to her. Now today this is what Rosé feels, maybe in her next album we'll see something different, maybe it'll be something similar, but in the end it'll be something she herself created so it's ok.

I think you misunderstood me. I never said, Rose isn't a real artist, but I feel she releases the same type of songs.

As the guy in the video said, she could do much more. Stop saying I don't appreciate Rose, when she's the only reason I cared about Blackpink in the first place. You can be a fan and not a delulu at the same time. I said this many times, I criticize my faves more than other artists.

I said, Rose releases songs that I actually love, it's one of my fave genre, but I'm sure you know if you keep eating the same food every day, you're gonna dislike it eventually. I prefer versatility. Didn't say everyone have to do the same.

Obviously, I'm only talking about her past and present, we don't know what she's gonna do next year or 10 years later. So, my opinion about her can change as well.

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It's Rosé. Also, how did Jisoo leave her comfort zone when earthquake sounds like flower 2.0?

I wasn't talking about her new Title Track, my opinions were about her EP in general. I don't just listen to Title Tracks and that's all, I'm making my opinion based on a whole album.

Versatility wise this is my ranking:

Jennie

Lisa

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Jisoo

Rose

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Yeah because everyone BUT the MAMAMOO members are "not great vocalists" and "not even average."

Did I mention MAMAMOO? No! So, if you don't have a real argument, move along. I'm done with your delulu cluless brain.

If you or anyone think Rose is average, what we should say about actual average vocalists like: Irene, Joy, Miyeon, Yuqi, Minnie, Karina, Winter, Jihyo, etc?

You know which Idols are great vocalists: Taeyeon, Hyolyn, Jung Eunji, Jessica, Luna, Solji, Wendy, Solar, Wheein etc

Above average: Hwasa, Seulgi, Moonbyul, Seohyun, Hani, Krystal etc

This is the last time I'm arguing with you. If you don't know the bare minimum about vocals and ranking, stop wasting my time, and do something else.

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You just proved my point.

How is anyone supposed to take you seriously when you're saying Irene, Joy, Yuqi etc are average vocalists but Rose isn't? Like

Yeah, I proved you don't know anything about vocals, unlike myself. Rose is not on the same level as Irene, Joy, especially Yuqi or Minnie. She's not far off, but she's not average yet! Rose only started to do REAL vocal training in the past year or so, and it already shows. Watch the video I shared before you talk again!

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Is anyone else utterly flabbergasted at how MAMAMOO's MAIN RAPPER is somehow an above-average level vocalist but BLACKPINK's MAIN VOCALIST is below average??

This is MAMAMOO's Main Rapper, btw. And you dare say, you're MAMAMOO fan! I swear, everything you say is a big ass lie!

Even the most clueless Kpop fan (except you) knows that everyone, and I mean EVERYONE in MAMAMOO is a Main Vocalist in ANY OTHER Kpop group. You can't name a single girl group where 1 of the MMM member couldn't be a Main Vocalist.

I didn't want to do this, but you want to compare Rose and Byul? Sure, let's do this. When did Rose ever sing like this?

Also, a tiny reminder: Moonbyul was an SME trainee vocalist, btw! She can outsing at least half of the Main Vocalists squad.

Anyone who think Byul is not MILES better vocalist than Rose is simple just ignorant. Sorry not sorry.

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Irene and Jihyo are in the same league but Krystal's better than both of them???

Krystal is easily a better vocalist than Irene or Jihyo.

I didn't want to be rude, but honestly, I'm not even sure Jihyo is at her usual average level anymore thanks to the lack of vocal training, her skills deceased. 5-6 years ago, people said, she could be like Solar and Hyolyn.

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What don't you understand? Krystal was weak to average like 10 years ago. Do you think she's not better since? Irene is not a better vocalist. Even in RV, she's only better than Yeri. We could argue that Jihyo might have a chance, but as I said, her skills are not even close to her older self.

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Have you lost your mind? In what world are they average in kpop?

Like it or not, all of them are average. Being average is not a bad thing, especially in Kpop. It's about time for fans to realize this and stop being delulu. I love all of them, but neither of them are strong vocalists. If someone has multiple weaknesses, they can't be better than average. Simple as that.

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Btw, why the guy sound much better than Rose, and why i can barely hear her?

Can't believe we finally agree on something. Must be Christmas or something. 🤣

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*Making a wish*

I'm not Santa or Genie, sorry.

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Are we talking about average in general or in kpop?

If we're talking about in general than majority of kpop idols most likely fall in the below average and average category. I just don't think the idols that are in bold. They most likely fall in above average category.

I just don't think many are viewing idols as top tier vocalist like Beyonce, Whitney, Aretha, Mariah, Adele, Stevie, Ariana, etc. I think in general most are average and above average if you want to view vocalist like that, but I don't think many are rightfully not doing that. IF we were to gather most of the Korean entertainment industry, then those idols you listed would at least be above average vocalist.

I'm obviously talking about "Average in Kpop", because if we're talking in general, 90% of Kpop wouldn't be in the conversation at all.

If we think those Idols are above average, then we should use God-tier for vocalists like: Taeyeon, Wendy, Solar or Wheein.

For the record, I don't think ANY Kpop Idol is a Top-Tier vocalist like Beyonce, Whitney Mariah etc. None of them are close to them, but that's not a bad thing.

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I will say right now that I am absolutely done interacting with this racist parrot who claims to possess the credibility to talk about vocals but can do absolutely nothing to support his argument other than restating his former points like a mindless puppet and attacking the intellectual capability of the other person.

Save yourself the time and energy, juseyo.

In no universe will he ever be worth you wasting such valuable things on him.

Yes. Yes, he has lost his mind.

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All you do is talking nonsense and insulting me, while I actually provided FACTS multiple times, unlike you. Why is it my fault that the only thing you can do is disagree with me, but you're too lazy to actually show some valid arguments?

You said you were a dancer, but still never managed to actually write a real analysis. You don't have to believe me, btw, you can find multiple review of vocal coaches saying the same thing about Idols. If you wanna be delulu, it's not my problem, but stop blaming me for your own ignorance.

Watch these videos and stop arguing with me. I'm done trying educating Kpop stans who don't want to learn anything, just because they dislike me for some stupid reason. At least I'm not biased like most of you.

Pay attention to what he actually says, not the ranking!

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she doesn't have taylor swift's writing talent. And her voice is marginally better than taylor's.

when listening to a song like number one girl, it sounds decent until she starts yelling in the chorus and ruins the whole song.

I think people overrate Taylor's writing skills, but that's just my personal opinion, but I don't think, Rose can't do a similar job one day.

As vocalists, I don't really listen much Taylor to know more, but compared to younger Taylor, Rose is pretty close to her.

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Do you hear someone talking?

I don't think I do.

Yet, you're still here and crying like a baby boy.