Jeanz has the biggest balls in kpop history!

Lame is an understatement. These people legitimately have issues. I find that kpop fans are especially bad at separating the art from the artist. A surface appreciation for the music and the artist is perfectly normal but the delusion these people have that somehow they're so important as to restrict the personal lives of someone you don't know personally is genuinely baffling. Of course, same can be said for certain fandoms of artists outside kpop.

I feel like both NJ and HYBE/ADOR keep saying the same things over and over again every week. This is like rewatching the same episode of a TV Show.

Now, they're asking their fans how they should call themselves TEMPORARY! I mean, what's the point of that? You either can work as an Idol group or not, and if you can, why don't you want to pick a final name. This is a total mess in both sides.

At this point it is pantomime. Both sides are making the expected moves, which makes no difference. But they do so because it is expected in the social-legal environment.

ADOR-HYBE is playing the jilted Ex, behaving like a good intentioned stalker, wishing for their love to come back.

The girls are playing the abused partner, who is never-ever coming back.

Unless the girls release new music, sign up new deals outside of ADOR-HYBE, there is no progress, just the same old.

The girls know it is important to keep the public engaged, so they do other things, like supporting protests, covers etc., and now this reach out on taking public opinion about a new 'name' -temporary or not.

It is a messy divorce

They have to post something every month because people will eventually forget them, and knowing that the new SM group could have a similar concept their SM token stans will drop them as fast as they can.

Because at this point we've been listening the same shit from NWJ and Hybe for months.

Haerinaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

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I feel like both NJ and HYBE/ADOR keep saying the same things over and over again every week. This is like rewatching the same episode of a TV Show.

Now, they're asking their fans how they should call themselves TEMPORARY! I mean, what's the point of that? You either can work as an Idol group or not, and if you can, why don't you want to pick a final name. This is a total mess in both sides.

Did you know a lot of companies ask fans for name suggestions? It’s super common in Kpop. Like, even mnet did this too for gp999. And the name contest was just two days long and was only to gather ideas, so what's so negative and messy about it?

AND MIND YOU, this is their first statement since leaving ador and hybe while ador has been releasing statements about the girls almost every week. And it’s just a public statement to let people know they’ve hired lawyers, and obviously, their lawyers told them to do it. From a legal point of view, making this statement definitely has a purpose.

And YES, they can still work as idols if they want. The injunction is only about stopping them from signing advertisement deals. The results for that will take 2–3 months, and the contract termination could take years to settle. In that gap, they can do whatever they want as free citizens.

If you don’t want to see the 'repeated 'formal statements that come with these kinds of lawsuits, just check back later when the court results are out. YOU SOUNDS LIKE THEY CAN CONTROL THE COURT TO PUSH THEIR CASE TO THE VERY TOP OF THE PRIORITY AND GET THE RESULTS ASAP.

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This. It looks like they're saying the same things that they said last year. Besides, it looks like they're no more rebellious than any other group that has tried to exit their contracts before.

No one’s ever straight-up held a press conference to terminate their contract like that and made a new YouTube account just to call out their company. Not to mention, they’re smart enough to do that to let the public see through HYBE’s madness, so they won’t end up like 50/50. Let’s be real, the chances of winning against a giant company like that are small. That’s why, despite the mistreatment, almost all idols just endure it. Those little girls really have bigger balls at the end of the day.

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They have to post something every month because people will eventually forget them, and knowing that the new SM group could have a similar concept their SM token stans will drop them as fast as they can.

Because at this point we've been listening the same shit from NWJ and Hybe for months.

Don’t worry, they’re posting on Instagram almost every day, and their faces are still everywhere in Korea. Oh, and if you’re that worried, I'm glad to inform that their luxury brand deals moving forward with the girls without the Hybe tags.

As for SM stans, they were never really supportive towards Nj, it's the opposite before this mess, so the loss is not significant at all. Yet, at least them moving on to other girl groups doesn’t seem as bad as those Hybe token stans who dropped the girls just because they’re loyal to the yellow company and can’t handle seeing their Papa Bear get ‘hurt’ by a bunch of little girls.

It's always much easier to get cocky when you have a lot of money as the girls have. I would have been more impressed if it was a less successful group that took up the fight.

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It's always much easier to get cocky when you have a lot of money as the girls have. I would have been more impressed if it was a less successful group that took up the fight.

Below I have listed the number of people who care what impresses you:

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jeanz will have the biggest fines in k pop history too.

Is that what you pray for at your Bang Si-Hyuk shrine at night before you climb into bed to cling to your Bang Si-Hyuk body pillow?

I hate to break it to you, but not all prayers are answered and not all dreams come true.

Obsessing over a bunch of young girls paying a fine to a company you don't even work for is a bigger L than any said fine could be.

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Below I have listed the number of people who care what impresses you:

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Probably because you need to go to court to terminate contracts, which is what the other idols actually chose to do.

Oh, is that why HYBE didn't go to the court when they unilaterally terminated Kim Garam's contract? I would have never known that without your elucidating clarification. Thank you.

It's good to know going forward that all contract terminations require going to court, ignoring the decades worth of sample size that indicates the contrary.

So where did you get your law degree again? And how long have you been practicing in Korea? You seem like an expert and I'm looking for legal counsel for a LLC I'm looking to establish in Gangnam.

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For once, we're on the same wavelength. That is the perfect summary of how literally everyone feels about literally all of your posts here ever.

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Clueless to why so many people are pressed by this I still stand by my op! Jeanz are iconic deal with it

They are jobless and terminally online, and seeing exponentially more successful people fall is the only way they can achieve some misguided and temporary sense of accomplishment in their miserable lives.

That's all it is. There are many such characters on platforms like reddit and AKP.

If that wasn't true, they wouldn't be online 24/7 tracking 5 teenage girl's movements like the CIA tracking some terrorist on a watchlist.

They are indeed brave and they move like one. I admire them.

always the usual suspects disagreeing, I thought it was some boss bitch shit but I aint thinking too deep into it

The one thing I don't understand is the name. Like all the suggestions seem they just wouldn't fly. Idk how that all works, but are they even able to use a name including the word Jeans/Tokki/Bunnies? I expected it to have to be completely different.

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I don't have the patience for you and your obsession with these girls today, so you'll get one response.

It's not patience you lack but intelligence. Otherwise, you wouldn't make such an irrational comment in a hackneyed and aggressively ignorant attempt to undermine me, as if you've demonstrated behavior any less deserving of being labeled obsession.

Only difference is that I'm not pushing word count limits to defend a disgusting company that has been exposed multiple times as bumbling idiots and thugs who grew faster than their competence could handle.

Your one response is guaranteed to have zero insights or substance, but let's unveil that now.

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Your comparison to the Garam situation is so ridiculous that it makes sense why you had to run from the Reddit of all places.

A fallacy supported by sophistry. We're not off to a great start, and I'm now feeling confident in my assessment of your intelligence.

The fallacy is the failed dismissal of the relevance of the Kim Garam situation. Regardless of the circumstances, her contract was unilaterally terminated by HYBE. The courts were not required.

Only when you want to dispute said termination do the courts get involved, but you are not REQUIRED to go to the courts TO terminate. Therein lies your fallacy and obvious inability to comprehend basic contract terms you're far from a subject matter expert on.

The sophistry is the laughable assertion that I would run from any place. It's truly empty skull season this year, and it came early thanks to people like you. You think I of all people would run from any online cesspool?

I did not run. In fact, they ran from ME throwing temper tantrums and threatening blocks and swearing they wouldn't waste time on me before proceeding to do just that. Those threads would have no peace had I not been banned via a duplicitous manipulation of reddit rules in the Megathread.

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Granting your assumption that NewJeans have it in their contracts that they can unilaterally terminate their contracts, that still wouldn't give them bigger balls than idols that actually had to take their companies to court to get out of their contracts. So no, they don't in any way. In fact, it's worse if they do have that clause because then it's just no-risk easy mode for them, which doesn't take balls to do.

It's not an assumption; it is a fact. And we have literally never seen an idol group stand on business and ethics in the way that NewJeans have.

Whether it's the live stream or Hanni attending a National Assembly she wasn't even required to go to or their press conference held to announce their contracts were terminated, NewJeans have proven they have the "biggest balls" in the history of the industry.

It's funny how stupid your argument is, because it's completely mired in contradiction

You claim NJ did some no risk easy mode, but above you're arguing that their contract remains valid and they must go to court against the largest entertainment label in K-Pop, which is being represented by the top law firm in the country.

Both can't be true, oh buddy, oh pal.

Stop being such a loser over semantics. You've got nothing better to do but parse words over which idols have the metaphorically biggest balls?

Aren't you embarrassed? What a hill to die on.

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The unnecessary bitterness in this thread

May all the luck follow them in their injunction

No! My faves have the bigger metaphorical balls! Can't you see?!

THEY'RE BIGGER!!!

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It's always much easier to get cocky when you have a lot of money as the girls have. I would have been more impressed if it was a less successful group that took up the fight.

Funny, no one seemed impressed when FiftyFifty made all the same mistakes as NewJeans.

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Funny, no one seemed impressed when FiftyFifty made all the same mistakes as NewJeans.

Thats the lifes of a lot of kpop groups, few really cares about the them. They got their one hit wonder at least.

The courts are necessary in this case because NewJeans did not take the usual legal steps to terminate their contract. They simply went on a conference to announce that their contract was terminated, providing no legal justification/permit hence why ADOR choose to ask the court if their unilateral termination is legally justified.

Not sure if HYBE did that with Garam but ig that was a case of mutual agreement, aka: both parties decided that it was best that she moved on from the group in order to prevent harming the group's reputation.

I'm really confused as to why y'all bringing up Garam. Let the girl live in peace, god damn.

Going back on topic, yes they do but the bigger you are, the faster you burn.

legends .

and not bitter brainrot losers can change that .

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Oh, is that why HYBE didn't go to the court when they unilaterally terminated Kim Garam's contract?

No way...

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No way...

What business does some random, no presence having company bootlicking sycophant dog have with me?

Just worry about keeping your boys away from the booze and scooters, champ.

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This. It looks like they're saying the same things that they said last year. Besides, it looks like they're no more rebellious than any other group that has tried to exit their contracts before.

Exactly! They're just getting more headlines, because they're more popular.

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What business does some random, no presence having company bootlicking sycophant dog have with me?

Just worry about keeping your boys away from the booze and scooters, champ.

Because I have been in this forum for years but I haven't read such a stupid thing ever.

Like, try to work somewhere and learn why what you just typed is bullshit.

just the fact that they are fighting for their group and their art so bravely while the richest, most powerful and most corrupted company is frantically trying to kill and sabotage their carrier at all coast makes them super heroines. and their youth only adds to the poignant nature of the historic event that is happening in front of our eyes.

Bro really got triggered over two words and a memoji, lmao

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Did you know a lot of companies ask fans for name suggestions? It’s super common in Kpop. Like, even mnet did this too for gp999. And the name contest was just two days long and was only to gather ideas, so what's so negative and messy about it?

AND MIND YOU, this is their first statement since leaving ador and hybe while ador has been releasing statements about the girls almost every week. And it’s just a public statement to let people know they’ve hired lawyers, and obviously, their lawyers told them to do it. From a legal point of view, making this statement definitely has a purpose.

And YES, they can still work as idols if they want. The injunction is only about stopping them from signing advertisement deals. The results for that will take 2–3 months, and the contract termination could take years to settle. In that gap, they can do whatever they want as free citizens.

If you don’t want to see the 'repeated 'formal statements that come with these kinds of lawsuits, just check back later when the court results are out. YOU SOUNDS LIKE THEY CAN CONTROL THE COURT TO PUSH THEIR CASE TO THE VERY TOP OF THE PRIORITY AND GET THE RESULTS ASAP.

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Yes, I know, but with NewJeans, it's a totally different story, and they're asking suggestions for a TEMPORARY group name!

The girls literally saying the same thing since last year, just like ADOR! I don't even get why are they talking. Talk when you win the case! There's a reason why lawyers tell their clients: "Don't say anything." But these girls just can't shut up! Everything they say, can be used against them! Especially this nonsense temporary group name thing.

No, they can't work if their contract is still active. Just because they said they left ADOR, doesn't mean it's true. NJ says one thing, ADOR says another, and we Kpop fans don't know shit, basically.

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Because I have been in this forum for years but I haven't read such a stupid thing ever.

I can fix that for you, friend. Just access your profile and look up your own post history and you'll find plenty of worthy candidates for messages where all brain cells go to die

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Like, try to work somewhere and learn why what you just typed is bullshit.

Imagine telling someone known to fly all over the world to work somewhere, like I don't have more than enough money in my ACCOUNTS to scoff at the notion you've been jobless and miserable for so long that it's become normalized to the point you think it's normal

All you toxic ARMY post is a bunch of brainless bullshit, Mr. Pot, so you should give the kettle a break sometime.

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just the fact that they are fighting for their group and their art so bravely while the richest, most powerful and most corrupted company is franticaly trying to kill and sabotage their carrier at all coast makes them super heroines. and their youth only adds to the poignant nature of the historic event that is happening in front of our eyes.

HYBE is not the richest. Are you forgetting their 98.6% decrease in net profit?

I thought this would be a peaceful thread, I didn't expect armys here tbh, did BTS say something? Why are they acting like bang PD bodyguards?

Anyways, NewJeans bravery is so different from others idols, they went head to heat against Hybe and since the beginning they were clear about their side, what they want and how they want, no idol has ever done it and to think young ladies/teen girls are actually the first to do it and even more impressive against the biggest kpop company (in money) yes, they are amazing.

Will they win? Idk, but I hope so. Everybody saw how Hybe wanted to sabotage them. Fighting Jeanz!!

also the fact that they had such advantagous contract actually highlights another peculiar matter in this case. not only the artists were attacked, but all their higher ups, from creatives to producers, to ceo's also were. it's like an attempt annihilation of their association. which is INSANE. Hybe are f*cking EVIL AND INSANE!

even if they waren't directly bound by a nasty contract, their ceo, producer and mentor WAS. her non compete slave contract was NASTY af! and at the stage which are njs, attacking MHJ is a direct attack to their group, their brand and their artistic development.

BTW, people call this brave, but don't forget this:

"History is written by the victors!"

If NJ doesn't win, it doesn't matter how brave they were.