i find it funny how nobody questions kakao's saejegi with Aespa lol

Kakao now do your magic for RV

Every company does payola, Kakao M is not innocent either. Just accept it with full heart.

SN got uls boosted by Hybe/Ador drama and comeback, while the song may not have the usual impact, still popular regardless. Why the YT audio numbers are weak while How Sweet numbers are double that?

Does Kakao own all the Korean digital platforms that make up the Instiz iChart, directly or indirectly?

If so, you have a point worth discussing.

Else it doesn't really explain the weeks of the song hitting PAK, where the song needs to rank #1 on all the platforms.

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and I think I saw somewhere when the song first came out, that it had reached #69 on global Spotify charts or whatever (obvious playlisting)

can you explain how Kakao paid for Aespa's Supernova and Armageddon became number 1 in Youtube trending music in Indonesia only hours after release ?

aespa Armageddon still ranks above sheesh and magnetic in Spotify daily Indonesia. i don't think playlisting enough to make them still in the chart.

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you are a Aespa stan, so theres no point of speaking to you.

thanks for boosting my thread though

wow. why did you get personal? i really thought this thread asked for genuine topic

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go ahead and say im hating on aespa or "ugly people don't get it, only pretty people listen to aespa"

nobody gaf, i said what i said.

and this post more about kakao anyway.

it turns out that you are absolutely a HATER

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you are a Aespa stan, so theres no point of speaking to you.

thanks for boosting my thread though

Rofl, oh, the famous 'you disagree with me, so you MUST be a stan of the group that I hate/dislike and that I'm bashing' trope, so original

Hybe stans talking about payola

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i said kcharts.

you were the ONE who brought spotify global into discussion

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i mean it's so obvious its not even funny

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and I think I saw somewhere when the song first came out, that it had reached #69 on global Spotify charts or whatever (obvious playlisting)

now mind you, I don't hear this song anywhere on TikTok or Instagram.

I don't see nobody mentioning the song on Twitter unless is MY's...I mean????

even in korea its being played and talked about a little bit cuz of people liking aespa in general, but its definitely not as popular as Next Level

those numbers are like the success of BTS Dynamite or NewJeans Ditto or Ikon Love Scenario.

even their song Next Level and Savage made more rounds and noise everywhere.

this song and the other song Armageddon I don't see no hype anywhere else, besides SM stans and again MY's

Kakao owning the Melon charts was already a clue on how they were gonna do things, but to this extent I'm shocked.

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Well done to Aespa. They finally got a good song and are doing great.

However if you can saejegi the biggest platform, you can saejegi the smaller platforms for less.

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Well done to Aespa. They finally got a good song and are doing great.

However if you can saejegi the biggest platform, you can saejegi the smaller platforms for less.

If Kakao did payola, wouldn't Aespa still get PAKs now ?

and also what with Aespa's 1 million only album sales ? Kakao is SM's distributor. why didn't they make 2 millions album sale ?

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Every company does payola, Kakao M is not innocent either. Just accept it with full heart.

SN got uls boosted by Hybe/Ador drama and comeback, while the song may not have the usual impact, still popular regardless. Why the YT audio numbers are weak while How Sweet numbers are double that?

You dont wanna compare Supernova vs House Sweet on youtube. It's not even close.

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Whats the result?

Go on and search youtube for yourself. You will find out. It might suprise you.

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they only putting the payola for the groups thats already relevant and kinda new (aespa, riize, the new SM gg)

not saying red velvet irrelevant, but they past their prime, even though they still do well on kcharts

this is unacceptable!

I'm gonna send protest trucks outside Kakao and SM building for this mistreatment!

"WE DEMAND RV PAYOLA!" "WE DEMAND RV PAYOLA!"

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oh you talking about MV views, i thought u was talking about something else

tbh I don't take YouTube views seriously from kpop groups anymore unless they are bts or blackpink.

bts cuz the fandom just that big, and blackpink cuz the fans get starved to death- so any new music video they get they gonna stream crazy (even tho they use ads to a extent too, but it's not needed for them in my opinion)

other kpop groups use ads for like a 3 or 4 week run, so yeah I don't take that seriously

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Views = watching music video still a viable form of music consumption. The correct way to look youtube stats is not the total views but the daily views after 3 or 4 weeks like you said. Daily views and likes often determine how a song is popular or bigger than one an other.

Here, I'll help you out. As for the like you can check that under music video.

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i said kcharts.

Kakao paid for YT music Korea #1 too?

They literally top the YT music chart for weeks (after How Sweet took over for 1 week, they reclaimed it back)

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no i see ur pfp of winter, so i know ur a aespa stan

and I'm not tryna be rude, its just theres no point of speaking to you cuz no matter what i say or explain- you already have it set in your mind a different answer defending them, thats all.

Are you serious? I liked the Winter gif, it's cute, doesn't make me a stan of Aespa.

I 'stan' SNSD and Red Velvet, and that's basically it.

You going for personal attacks, doesn't negate the fact that you don't have a good answer to the honest, rational question whether Kakao owns all Instiz registered digital platforms which is the entire core of your argument, and that's why you went for personal attacks

Sajaegi talk is so stupid when the song is doing well in literally all platforms

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and blackpink cuz the fans get starved to death- so any new music video they get they gonna stream crazy (even tho they use ads to a extent too, but it's not needed for them in my opinion)

BP doesn't use ads and their fandom streams the song bc we are big and we like what the girls released.

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i ain't reading all that

im happy for u tho

or sorry that happened

how edgy, you're not even funny

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ok sm stan, thank u for the comment.

Explain to us how can Kakao do sajaegi on every music platform when they only own melon