Did IVE underperform with their latest comeback?

  • Did IVE's latest comeback underperform? 28

    1. Yes (16) 57%
    2. No (12) 43%

    If you believe they did, what do you think went wrong and how do they make sure they get another smash hit next comeback?


    People probably know where I stand on this.

  • They were not invited to play in the Superbowl, so yes, they flopped.

  • They are flopping and disbanding


    I'm going to their disbandment concert on 24th they gonna announce their disbandment on their world tour not everyone has that

    I would've been disappointed if you weren't the first response :pepe-devil:


    It's just missing a certain rant about UL percentages


    Nope, they still topped the charts and sold well :cursing:

    Don't worry newpants will under perform on their next cb :cursing: :cursing:

    They both chart better in Korea than BlackPink :cursing::cursing::cursing:

  • lmfao no

    they got a pak and all three title tracks are still charting stably. granted the triple title track strategy didn’t work as well as cough cough newjeans cough but no doubt they did well

    Baddie is already about to leave the MelOn Daily top 20, is charting below I Am, and is accumulating significantly less digital points each week relative to Perfect Night and Drama. Not all PAKs are created equal, and to me, that's well below their standard.

  • Only if youre talking internationally. They got paks with their worst release so far + top5 in all kcharts with a completely unpromoted ballad. Thats more that newjeans cool with you could do with 2 mvs, a dance practice and 2 asian celebs in their video. In fact cool with u charted in same place as off the record on melon.

    On top of that 2 of these songs are best selling kpop singles in china and they sold 1,9m overall with ive mine... Issa win for me.


    I do think they made mistakes though. Very risky stuff and i wanted a more girl crush sound with halloween vibe instead of baddie. I also think their current strategy was nothing like the successful ive formula, so this could have backfired really bad.

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  • Only if youre talking internationally. They got paks with their worst release so far + top5 in all kcharts with a completely unpromoted ballad. Thats more that newjeans cool with you could do with 2 mvs, a dance practice and 2 asian celebs in their video. In fact cool with u charted in same place as off the record on melon, another ive release with zero promo besides mv.

    On top of that 2 of these songs are best selling kpop singles in china and they sold 1,9m overall with ive mine... Issa win for me.


    I do think they made mistakes though. Very risky stuff and i wanted a more girl crush sound with halloween vibe instead of baddie. I also think their current strategy was nothing like the successful ive formula, so this could have backfired really bad.

    Internationally they haven't made real noise relative to the top girl groups in that space (certainly not NJ/BP level), so I don't really consider that underperforming, since they don't have big Spotify or Billboard numbers even during their most successful eras.


    Their album sales were legitimately impressive, and I was prepared to acknowledge that if someone brought them up, but the way they charted this promotion cycle isn't swept under the rug just because they got a PAK.


    I look at it this way. Those songs took a good amount of time to rise (long enough for the AKP trolls to call it a flop comeback) and then fell rapidly.


    I'd say maybe it's a sign of a shift in preference for girl group music, especially in light of (G)IDLE's recent comeback, but LSF and aespa held up really well in that same timeframe.

  • Stopped reading at the lies in the first paragraph lol i cant take anyone seriously if they havent done their research first or are obv biased... Go find an actual fool that buys your bs if u want to quote with a bible

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  • Stopped reading at the lies in the first paragraph lol i cant take anyone seriously if they havent done their research first or are obv biased... Go find an actual fool that buys your bs if u want to quote with a bible

    What have they done internationally that compares with NewJeans and BlackPink?


    I'm looking for the lie and can't find it :pepewhat:

  • What have they done internationally that compares with NewJeans and BlackPink?


    I'm looking for the lie and can't find it :pepewhat:

    They did underperform internationally compared to i am dumbass, as well as After Like that broke international records at its time. Ur trying to rewrite history like i am a granny with memory fish as if ive wasnt the biggest 4th gen gg internationally until nj started charting on the biggest spotify playlist 25 days after debut, i can smell the disingenuousness from u so miss me with that bs

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  • They did underperform internationally compared to i am dumbass, as well as After Like that broke international records at its time. Ur trying to rewrite history like i am a granny with memory fish as if ive wasnt the biggest 4th gen gg internationally until nj started charting on the biggest spotify playlist 25 days after debut, i can smell the disingenuousness from u so miss me with that bs

    :boompepe:


    Do you know that you expose your complete lack of mental maturity and life experience every time you get this triggered over a literal harmless conversation? If there was ever any doubt as to whether you're old enough to drive a car without a chaperone, posts like these remove all doubt.


    Compared to BlackPink and NewJeans, IVE have accomplished nothing of note on Billboard or Spotify. I almost forgot Fifty Fifty since they imploded, but throw them on there too.


    Why does this trigger you so much? They're not that big in the West. It's okay to admit that. Spotify numbers are mid and they have zero presence on the Billboard.


    They are not in BlackPink and NewJeans' class there. It'll be okay, I promise. They won't cancel their tour just because their attempts to appeal to the west haven't landed yet.


    Now get back to the topic at hand and stop screaming and crying like a child raised by bad parents.

  • I mean u can post this so called promo, i'm waiting

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  • Have u noticed that ur speech pattern is the same of a narcissist and gaslighter.. U should look it up

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    Do u know that the unpromoted ballad i was talking about was either way right... That's the one that got top5 in all kcharts


    Nvm my bad, i reread what i said and did mixed info in the post, will edit

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  • it’s doing well in Korea, internationally it did underperform a little but still not bad

    Baddie reached #1 on the circle chart and its album sold over 2 million copies.


    :policepepe:

    Let me put it this way.


    By the numbers, Baddie is the worst performing title track in IVE's young careers on the charts where they perform best.


    Doing "well" is an underperformance to me, when IVE have set the bar so high for themselves.

  • I dont really think baddies unpreformed, it just wasn't well liked.

    Isn't that directly correlated? The song barely lasted on top of the charts, as it was quickly overthrown and overshadow by Perfect Night, then it began falling at a much faster rate than any other IVE title track, already charting lower than I Am and just barely holding on to the top 20, and the two other tracks are charting way below Kitsch and will be out of the top 100 probably in a month or two. (while Love Dive/After Like/I Am will still be hanging around).


    Am I being unfair by considering this a significant underperformance?

  • Isn't that directly correlated? The song barely lasted on top of the charts, as it was quickly overthrown and overshadow by Perfect Night, then it began falling at a much faster rate than any other IVE title track, already charting lower than I Am and just barely holding on to the top 20, and the two other tracks are charting way below Kitsch and will be out of the top 100 probably in a month or two. (while Love Dive/After Like/I Am will still be hanging around).


    Am I being unfair by considering this a significant underperformance?

    Didn't their other title tracks for this comeback do well.

  • Current International new girl group rankings: #1 NewJeans, #2 LSF, #3 Aespa, #4 BM/ Gidle, #6 Ive


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    BM Batter Up: 1,018,748

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    ou podemos nos orgulhar disso; streams de ontem: drama: 1,164,263 baddie: 459,754 off the record: 232,267 either way: 156,606 total: 848,627 detalhe q…
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    Aespa: 1,164,263

    Ive Baddie: 459,754


    Baddie dropped fast. Drama and Batter Up held up for many weeks.


    Then their follow up English release couldn't even get close to a Coke CF

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    It is not looking good internationally and longer term, as Teddys Black Label girl group and also SM's next girl group will likely run them down as well. Maybe even Itzy will run them down too from some numbers I have seen recently.

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