So enough with gg, who's the second top bg now after Bts?

It's Seventeen

Huge sales

Huge KR-JP-CH support

Good streams, not crazy, but good (third highest daily Spotify streams for a BG, fifith highest overall if we include girlgroups)

Extremely strong touring numbers

They check all the marks for a top group

I think fro the given examples the top 5 is

1. Stray Kids
2. SEVENTEEN
3. TXT
4. NCT
5. ATEEZ

from what it looks like

Seventeen. Touring power. Decent digitals and mainstream recognition with public. Fourth gen bgs are flop with public and no amount of sales will make them A list stars and recognisable with public.

SKZ

No one for now is too close a second perhaps in some categories but there's not one that ticks all the categories imo

I would say stray kids, but I don't know that much about bgs

Blossomin88

You're really out here for war aren't ya.

So am I.

You're missing a selection on your poll. BTS is 2nd. They're REALLY hot right now and in the west are more known but overall H.O.T. is number 1 in my book.

imma need yall to be for real here

there ain't no damn second, cuz nobody's even close💀

BTS are their own thing, and making it seem like they have a "second" or "third" is blasphemy lmao.

but if your taking BTS out of the boy group equation, then that's a different story.

at that point, id say its Stray Kids and Seventeen neck-and-neck.

then after is TXT, then Enhypen and so on.

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Blossomin88

You're really out here for war aren't ya.

So am I.

You're missing a selection on your poll. BTS is 2nd. They're REALLY hot right now and in the west are more known but overall H.O.T. is number 1 in my book.

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There's no 'after BTS' this or that.

This group is on another league? They're up there playing with the biggest names in the world.

SVT

The most balance of physical, digital, and touring power

Google trend say Stray Kids

Svt

SKZ

its seventeen but yall need to stop leaving dream out of the equation

Currently SVT for sure.

Hmm. I'd say Seventeen. But Stray Kids is following closely.

They have both the highest selling albums of the year.

They have the biggest boygroup title tracks of the year internationally and, Seventeen's case, also domestically.

Internationally, both singles this year with good numbers on Spotify, over 10 weeks charting on Japan's biggest digital plataforms (and counting), the only male group songs to chart on Apple Music Global and the longest charting boygroup songs on Youtube Music Top Videos and Songs Globally (Super 10 weeks and S-Class still charting).

They both are doing a sold out Dome Tour on Japan that will most likely, with few dates, having attendance of worldwide tours out there and won't even fill their whole demand on the market. (I mean, Seventeen is Seventeen and SKZ had over 2.5M applications and sold out in less than 5 minutes everything).

Anyway, that's it.

17.

Seventeen after Wall of China I guess