Do you think starship is part of big5 now ??

if we consider all big company Kakao and CJ should be on the list.

so big 6 should be the answer.

what do u mean big 3/4 is nothing next to them, they are the ruler of kpop industry, everything is going according to the master plan now we only need them to buy shares in kq so my kq fellaz 2 can succeed

anything to propel cravity up higher YES. starship is BIG 5

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anything to propel cravity up higher YES. starship is BIG 5

they are now among the elites

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they are now among the elites

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yg is still known company for have problem with drug and corruption...

Now we have Starship for rigged and make bad mediaplay at the others kpop idols and even ive members tho...

Dont forget sm mediplay is creepy...for promoted their groups..if you re sm artists...you will get daesang in the korean awards even their songs re not hits in korea and international...

Jyp have lost the cost now their groups did well but yet they need national hits again.

Hybe have rigged wins and big influence for Hide the dating of bts members...

Starship is under kakao ent (rumor the kakao ceo have 16,5 billons of dollars)please dont forget kakao have others subiritary companies ...iu,stayc,Weeekly,apink...

The big4 is finish..there is big5...i did get the profit of starship is inferior beside others.. i have seen yg have only 700k ..i guess with bp world tour and 3 m sales.. they will get 20M dollars for yg company ent

Ive and monstaX did well for give noisy at the starshit

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This is joke...maybe if starship get other hits by their artists no only ive

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i just have one question

Why do some people not consider HYBE as part of the Big 4 ( some people just say big 3, and it irritates me )

Can someone describe what bad media play is and what it does Please?

The problem is that KakaoM does not have a top boy band.

Sure we are in a era of Girl group domination, but kpop has historically been a boy band thing.

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The problem is that KakaoM does not have a top boy band.

Sure we are in a era of Girl group domination, but kpop has historically been a boy band thing.

thats why they need to buy kq shares and make kq fellaz 2 top boy band

don't be delusional there's no big 4 no big 5 it will always only be yg, jyp, and sm.

As far as I can tell (using Wikipedia)

The boy bands under KakaoM are

Antenna music

None

StarShip Entertainment

Moster X

Creativity Cravity

IST Entertainment

Victon

The Boyz

Bandage

ATBO

EDAM Entertainment

None

BH Entertainment

None

Did I miss anyone else?

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StarShip Entertainment

Moster X

Creativity

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don't be delusional there's no big 4 no big 5 it will always only be yg, jyp, and sm.

Just because it used to be that way in the past, it does not mean it will continue to be the same way in the future.

It would be like me saying, there is no Big 3, there is only the big 2; SM and DSP media.

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StarShip Entertainment

Moster X

Creativity

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As far as I can tell (using Wikipedia)

The boy bands under KakaoM are

Antenna music

None

StarShip Entertainment

Moster X

Creativity

IST Entertainment

Victon

The Boyz

Bandage

ATBO

EDAM Entertainment

None

BH Entertainment

None

Did I miss anyone else?

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hm... never heard of um

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I can't even copy right, this is why I do bad in school.

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I can't even copy right, this is why I do bad in school.

honestly gave me a good laugh thank u lmao

I don't. My definitions

1. Subsidiary companies can't claim 'big' status. So Starship is not.

2. Neither can parent companies, just because they have M&A of Kpop agencies - so Kakao is not.

3. HYBE is a big, even though they reorganized and have idol groups under subsidiary labels, because HYBE's primary business and origin is Kpop idol music production.

4. CJ E&M is also not a 'big', for similar reasons to Kakao, not their history or primary business, no matter how many project groups they run or have subsidiaries.

The 'Big' term is a combination of size, primary business and history.

For Kakao, idol/music production is a tiny part of their holdings and revenues, whereas for the Big 4 - that is the primary business and majority of their revenues

Even if considering Kakao M, that is still true.

In any case, the "big" label might as well be retired, it will increasingly lose relevance with the boom of digital consumption and social media marketing.

The label mattered when influence with Broadcasting and Print media mattered a lot. That is a dead end now, just slowly reducing.

Curation will take different forms now.

Starship have been prominent in the entertainment space for a while, they have a premier acting agency as well. Kpop fans are just not aware of how some businesses exist outside of kpop (understandably).

Big 3/4 terminology is kpop specific.