[theqoo] THE ROUTE SASAENG FANS GAIN INFORMATION ABOUT IDOLS

bypannchoaAugust 05, 2022

The reason why they're not only being a pain to the artists and the staffs, but also to the fans while tailing the idols during their private schedules:

"I heard talks about an employee at the airport was selling the information. Sasaengs seriously already know all the [idols]' citizenship number so they would just inquire them about the seat information.

The office employees, the press companies' employees and the bank employees all leak their personal information. They can't be safe anywhere actually..."
- Ex-sasaeng fan

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Q: No but why on Earth would sasaengs do somehting like that?

"It's because of gat-bi" (같은 비행기/같이 타는 비행기 = taking the same plane)

Q: What is gat-bi?

"It's when we can take the plane (bihaengi) together (gachi) sasaengs are rich, they have so much time in their hands and they have nothing better to do. They would book a seat right in front, beside or next to the idols that they like and spy on them while taking pictures, they also watch them when they're sleeping..."
- Ex-sasaengs

https://content.v.kakao.com/v/5e2008a0ca835a181486b6c4

(paraphrased)

Park Miso (alias, 29 y'o) who used to be a sasaeng fan of an idol for 3 years said "Sa-taek (sasaeng taxi) can make a lot of money, it's hard for teens to take taxis but if the sasaengs in their 20s can't get to the site, they would expense the taxi fee for teenagers and they would share information with each other."
Lee Minji (alias, 27 y'o who already rode on a sasaeng taxi said "Taxi drivers have their own network so if they're following a celebrity and lose them, they would contact each other and share the information to follow them again."

"Dandok (exclusive)" means an event only you are able to witness. Kim Ahyeon (alias, 29 y'o) spent 1.5Mwon/month (~1.15K USD). She mentioned that because of the ''dandok", she wasn't able to give up on the sasaeng life. "Once, in the midst of doing my sasaeng acts, I withnessed XX (celebrity's name) break up with his girlfriend. I became famous among the sasaeng community for being the only one who witnessed it. Me too, I followed him because I got a feeling that I knew him more. Because I thought 'I know something about him that others don't' which pushed me to follow him even more."

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Sasaeng A's 24 hours

- 7:00-10:00
Starts the daily schedule by staying in front of the celebrity's dorm

- 10:00-13:00
Move to the beauty salon that the celebrity often visits while following the celebrity

- 13:00-15:00
Pilgrimage to the celebrity's agency or restaurant that the celebrity often visits

- 15:00-19:00
Move to the official schedule's shooting site/broadcasting station

- 19:00-21:00
Move to the gym/PC bang that the celebrity often visits

- 21:00-23:00
Follow the celebrity's own car/van/taxi and move to the bar or cafe

- 23:00-2:00
Pursue the celebrity's car through sasaeng taxi, after arriving to the dorm, wait there until they close their lights

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ID (anonymous): It's so bad that (celebrities) want to take 'normal' airplanes too, but they can't because they're too scared of sasaengs...
If you think about it, doesn't it give you chills to think that someone is intentionally watching you while you're sitting on the plane from front/behind/side?

"They even pay the janitor cleaning the washrooms to ask them whether they can take a picture for them"

"Ok, this is the 6 stars hotel that Ted will stay at"

"We will stay line up facing the opposite side [of the hallway] starting from room 2315"

"The guide already squeezed out the information, that's why they can being themselves there"

original post: here

1. Because of those entertainment media lately, they would arrive 8 hours before the celebrities leave or arrive in the country and announce their live on Youtube. Once the live teaser is out on Youtube, people will already get all the information about when and how long they'll be there on that day. It's getting even more severe right now, so I hope they stopped doing those livesㅠ Even for kids who don't know about it, because of the teaser, they can be f*cking drawn to do it too. Because of COVID, the airplane capacity is lowered, but nowadays, I see more people with phone cameras than fansites sticking to them... They're always battling to see who can do more, both are problematic

2. Following them to fansigns and concerts is what normal fans can do, but if you follow them anywhere outside of that, you're a sasaeng to me. The idols hate that themselves, you guys just look like stalkers

3. Stopped calling them sasaeng fans, these people are just stalker criminals

4. I used to work for a small company and I was taking the plane. Inside the plane, there were Korean sasaengs and Japanese sasaengs and they would follow them on the plane to take pictures. Because the plane was filled with sasaengs, the staffs all sat the members next to the windows and they had to change seats, but no matter what you do, they'll find a way to get on that plane... Seriously they even drove me crazy. I believe that celebrities who have lots of sasaengs will all go nuts..

5. My bias' fansites all do sasaeng actsㅋㅋ And whenever you try to swear at popular fansites, they always go "Since when?" "We didn't take the same place" "We met by accident" and pretend like thatㅋㅋ following them to private schedules was just the basicsㅋ

6. They're just attention seekers and mentally disturbed, first of all, you guys need to stop consuming their stuff

7. It's a mental disease...

8. There are lots of agency employees who leak those information. There was a kid I knew who worked in the same company as them, someone requested them to share the personal information of the celebrity by inquiring the company, but that person said no, so they contacted another agency's employee and after inquiring the information, they even asked the employee to take a picture of their road-viewㅋㅋ

9. I just saw sasaengs in front of the Gimpo airport this morning, they're so strange...

10. There's a kid who started being sasaeng when they were teens, now they're in their 30s and they're still a sasaeng

This infuriates me. It reminds me of the time an airport employee flashed Dahyun's information for reporters and sasaengs to take picture of.

Seriously, why are people like this? The employees should seriously lose their jobs for selling people's information!! Like...

Quote from 0ppar

part of the job...it's not like saesangs are a new phenomenon. They've existed since the days of Seo Taiji. Consider it an honor that you can have such dedicated fans.

I don't know about Korea, but in the US, employees leaking confidential information and selling it is illegal lmao. That's not a part of anyone's job, and the people who are doing it should go to jail or at least be fired.

Quote from 0ppar

Like all things, it's only illegal if you get caught.

No, it's illegal either way.

Quote from kazuyakamenashi

yes it's illegal in Korea and the punishment is stiff but, like the other person said it's only illegal if you get caught. The thought of punishment does not deter people because the cost vs risk reward is low. The chances of being caught doing it is low because of the way this crime happens and the payout is often bigger. Sure you may lose your job and goto prison for a few yrs. But who cares when you can make 5 to6 figures in less than a year by leaking some boy group you don't give 1 shit about.

No, it's illegal either way. Saying it's only illegal if you get caught to me is a criminal mindset. And I would be wary of anyone who thinks that way.

I could do a lot of things that are illegal and not get caught for them, but I don't because I'm not a criminal and don't want to be lmao.

Quote from quarkie

I hate how much the fans play into ssng culture and encourage them. Everyone screams about how terrible ssngs are, but repost their photos and spread their rumors. There's a notorious Jaehyun ssng with over 250k twitter followers. I saw a twt account that sells flight info (it was how we found out about Jaehyun going to Italy) with way too many followers. Every single time someone goes outside with a new hair color, ssng photos are all over the place.

Some of them are crafty and will pull a "oh I just happened to run into them!" story. That also happened with Jaehyun's trip to Italy. First they just happened to run into him and got an autograph... sure it happens. Then that same person got busted following him around and posting photos of him they took through windows.

It also pisses me off how many bullshit rumors have started just because idols call out these ssngs.

The line between sasaengs and antis is paper thin. If you anger them, then all that energy that went into stalking you will not be repurposed into ruining your career.