They received a huge international following, its just that they are terribly promoted, i seriously dont think they'll return for a while. (i havent kept up with BP at all so idk, let me know whats going on rn if youd like)
jennie's online hate was a forest fire and i dont think she can bounce back in the trends of kpop nowadays anymore. i feel like girl crush is on the decline.
she has a classy, unique and sweet kind of visual beauty that even though I dont stan twice, i have to admit, she stands out!
wasnt she criticized for being 'ugly' and 'fat' back then? i dont remember but either way, she looks stunning.
also, i really liked twice's jpop song 'candy pop' and korean song 'special', was really into it when it released years ago!
Congrats to them! I wish them another epoch of great hits! They are such a rarity of talent, skill and aura!
They deserve their flowers, publicly, for being such an iconic id0l group! "Shes been like this!"
yes i agree!
Display MoreI like Fromis_9 in particular Jiwon. They have some good songs but their music became inconsistent after their debut. I follow them casually.
I used to be a casual Le Sserafim fan when they debuted but Unforgiven and its b-sides were not my cup of tea at all. They can’t properly sing their songs so I stopped caring that much. I did not need Coachella for that though the hate that they received for that was unwarranted. Perfect Night and Easy were nice comebacks. I often listen to their music and all the members are likeable, great performers.
I like NewJeans more and more. Get up was not my favorite comeback from them except for Super Shy but I really love all their 2022/2024 songs. The members all have a pleasing voice.
It’s hard to judge ILLIT so far. I like Magnetic but could not care less about their b-sides. I like Minju but I am neutral toward the rest of the group. I don’t see much talent in them.
Now that I think about it I often like HYBE girl groups songs but they are not my type of groups to stan.
I must agree, even as a illit stan I do not think the girls have much talent, at least for now.
i am hoping to see them grow and see if whether or not their vocals improve. i dont know whats up with hybe's ggs but personally i dont think theyre strong in vocals. maybe in visuals and dances instead.
i think SM takes the spot (from the big three labels) that focuses on the ggs' vocals. like seriously, Wendy & Winter's vocal range is actually amazing and pleasing to listen too, heavy focus on Wendy from Red Velvet. Hearing them live is so, so refreshing once in a while after these new ggs debuting.
I really dont want to see illit as just a pretty girl group visual, but again I hope they improve and develop a stronger fanbase. looking at their tiktoks, theres a lot of positive and fun comments. especially when wonhee did a small makeup tutorial it was so cute! no wonder she is my bias.
also, its interesting that k netizens dont even care about the vocals much of illit, like they just care about the visuals and how talentless they are. like come on, theyre kids.. T T
I can tell you're a legitimate ILLIT fan. They'll need loyal day one stans like you to weather the shit storm they find themselves in, with a skeptical general public on one side, angry Bunnies on the other side, and then token stans on the other other side.
They need real fans in their corner to really reach their potential and build a healthy fanbase.
I actually almost tuned in for R U Next, but everyone told me not to waste my time.
absolutely, i am a really loyal fan haha thank you for noticing >.<.. i am probably as much as a loyal fan like i was for Red Velvet and AOA back then (am still a loyal fan of RV and solos of AOA members!). Yeah, too many sides during their debut and opinions are everywhere. i mean they are kids literally my age range, i wouldnt handle shit from the whole skeptical population of western stans and even worse, k neitizens.
i just cannot believe people call them a carbon copy of new jeans. I know that, theyre a new girl group, but wow to compare so quick? i feel like NJs has such a Y2K vibe while illit is so much more dreamcore, which I admit do overlap but I feel like this didnt happen when the trend was to debut ggs with girl crush concepts.
idk, i just think that bunnies are like bp and twice stans back then (cannot believe im saying back then); a whole ass army of younger kpop stans.
i hope we us normal and non judgmental illit stans can get along with everyone and support our girls~
R U Next was good in my opinion, but i can see why many people didnt like it. i feel like with most contest shows, people just watch clips and not the actual thing lol. R U Next was the only contestant show that I actually stay tuned for >.<
I watched only ONE seal video and suddenly I have a lot of seal videos recommended.
But well... seals are kinda cute.
Especially the fluffy harp seals.
i love their big boba eyes lol, seals are cute, no?~
yeah seems like my whole fyp on insta is just cat videos and bunnies being cute T T but i am not complaining hehe
Display MoreI'll be doing this for each big 4 label. I'm starting with the groups that get the most conversation and controversy.
I would prefer you to expand on your thoughts, but I'll leave a straightforward poll to collect board sentiments. It will be anon.
The current roster (only counting debuted groups)
I personally and obviously love them. And not just because of NewJeans. I've been a fromis_9 fan since before they were fromis_9, as one of the 10 people who watched Idol School. I bought their debut album and I've seen them perform. Two members even popped up my row at KCON for MC segment.
I don't need to say anything about NewJeans.
I'm also a big fan of LE SSERAFIM. They're a group that won me over with their incredible content (seriously, it's the best in the business, but somewhat ironically, I heard Hybe poached the staff that used to curate fromis_9's content) before their music.
As for ILLIT... it's complicated. But I don't dislike them. I had Magnetic on loop prior to, well, you know.
I just didnt have interest in any of the girl groups from HYBE, I always just associated with the label with NewJeans and BTS. Well I didnt even know Big Hit changed their name to Hybe so that was a shock to me firstly.
But I did have interest in illit after watching R U Next. I fell in love with Yunah, especially with her 'Bad Girl Good Girl' performance. i know that not a lot of people did not like Yunah in illit's concept but she will always be a big visual for me. like seriously, she stands out to me for some reason and all the girls in illit do too. maybe its just me T T.. i have a weird mind.
i also fell in love with wonhee. i wanted to see her improve and i fell in love with her visual. the girls are overall pretty and extremely strong to not only perform on stage, but to handle all of the goddamn hate lmao. theyre all dreamy~
i really hope hybe invests their time into making the girls stand out. i dont know if they'll ever reach such a peak like new jeans internationally, but i will still always support them and continue with them on insta/tiktok. i just feel like theyre so easy to follow up on, i always figured that the other girl groups there is so much going on sometimes, or maybe its just my busy life.. T T..
but absolutely no hate to anyone else who enjoys the other Hybe girl groups haha 
It is hard for non-Koreans to understand her philosophy.
Wonyoung Mindset>>>
Display MoreItzy: Mafia, Sneakers.
Twice: Likey, Set me Free.
Aespa: Armaggedon
GOT7: Nanana
Nmixx: 0.0
RED VELVET: RBB
I always skip this songs.
Finally, someone else who didnt like RBB, i just didnt vibe T T
Display MoreDalla Dalla is easily one of the best debuts up to this day to me.
It's odd how Lia was always the most critizied member, but the comeback that estabileshed Itzy's sudden "downfall" was the first one she became absent of.
People are never really happy, they must find somenthing to hate on. Every group has weak comebacks, one group simply cannot please everybody every time, and they move on just fine. I feel like the fans really did dirty to Itzy, I honestly feel like they were thrown away like trash and it truly makes me sad. Every single member worked so hard, they are so talented and so beautifull, didn't deserve the massive hate that led them to drop so hard.
Ugh, sorry I ranted, but it's my actual thought. As a kpop fan, my heart is heavy for them.
All in all, I blame it on JYPE and the fans. I really wish for Itzy to get back on track.
Yeah, aespa dind't reach Next Level level until Supernova. So there's hope for Itzy, you must be right
i also agree, the sparkly and flashy peformance stages and mv really popularized itzy didnt it? it was a great debut for them and really successful. everyone praised their dancing skills in the comment sections in a lot of social media sites like youtube and tiktok especially at the time.
i always would like to think that what causes a 'downfall' of a group is not the members criticism or unpopularity, but instead hiatuses or leaving a group. when AOA Choa left the group, a left a horrible mark on the brand and the reputation of the members i remember. it just wasnt AOA anymore, like Itzy isnt Itzy without Lia (also lia is beautiful.. a lot of people critiqued her visual and im like what?)
and no worries the rant was warranted i like hearing other peoples thoughts ! xD and my heart is heavy for them too. the girls grew up so fast too, I remember when Yuna was only 16 (i believe) when she debuted.
JPYE is doing so little to get the girls out there. He was extremely enthusiastic at first for the debut but for the past year or so, i feel like he just lost interest.
Theres hope for Itzy maybe!! T T
I haven't listend to Algorhythm either. I'll play right now!
Sadly, I don't think they'll ever get popular again. They might have chance when Lia comeback? But I wouldn't get my hopes up. From time to time fans just decide to drop their faves out of the blue and everything becomes an excuse to hate. The hate train took the life off of them, for now
I hope it's not definitive, but I don't think they'll bounce back.
Yes lets play! Will give it a listen right now.
I dont think theyll get popular again sadly, their debut was so big and well received (okay.. some people didnt like dalla dalla for whatever reason but the performance and choero was SO GOOD) maybe, but Lia wasnt very liked for whatever reason, i always liked her doll visuals. i heard some people online say its because she was a bad dancer, she had bad vocals, was from a wealthy background etc. but that caused the poor girl to go on hiatus
i know right.. its like everyone drops their faves and everything about the group kind of clears away with new kpop idols debuting instead and taking the spotlight.
i truly think its 50/50 if they bounce back or not. girl crush is not popular anymore :(, maybe the girl crush concepts fits for some groups such as aespa but, they lasted for a good 4 years now and i bet theyll continue especially with the members popularity and SM's promotion.
don't worry mate - you're new here...
if a thread doesn't get derailed then is it truly worth posting? lol
yes! i am very new, sadly i didnt know about kpop communities such as these.
thank you for understanding again haha, i hope everyone else does too.
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Yeah.. I am on the lawyer route and its not for everyone haha. I also wanted to become a ballerina, but my body sadly was not up for the part especially being way to fragile at the time. a fashion designer is quite nice as well.
i hope youre happy with your job as a psychologist
that's a separate issue from what the OP posted but yes maybe he should
oh yes i kind of realized a few moments ago, sorry about that OP lol.
I actually missed out on all of 3rd gen and good chunk of 4th coz Bigbang & 2NE1 was the only thing I cared about from like 9-13😅 It was lowkey so hard to be invested during that time when BTS,BP,Twice were all the rave especially amongst your friends. That's what happens when you peak too early - Depression
I'm assuming that's what Blinks are going thru atm XD
Oh do not worry! What I cared during 3rd gen was Red Velvet and early 3rd gen of AOA. My ultimate bias is still Shin Jimin to this day, she is my lesbian dream..
I remember the rise of Red Velvet too, especially Korean fans online. Many praised Irene for her cold visuals but sweet attitude, a bit timid lol. I fell in love~ I also liked Yeri's hair in Russian Roulette back then idk why i noticed that so heavily
No but, i did not have many kpop fans back then. I saw many early tiktoks in maybe 2019-2020 of Twice accounts and Blackpink, especially with BP's comeback 'How You Like That'. I remember sitting on the floor with the same old laptop I use to this day (lol) watching the livestream go crazy on youtube.
Haha, maybe we peaked a little too early >.<
Blinks going thru a lot xD
Oh, I see it. It's really hard to have a good time listening to Cake. The chorus is a cry for help and Yuna's vocals did bother me in this track, surprisingly.
I actually really loved their latest comeback with Born to Be and Untouchable. What'd you think?
Agreed! Usually Itzy's vocals dont bother me, but sadly Cake did.
Oh they had a comeback! I will listen to them then, do you think theyre getting popular again?
Display MoreWhat are your favorite groups least favorite song(s)?
Weak. It actually hurts my ears everytime it starts playing, I can't help but to skip it right away.
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I'v recently listend to a YT remix of this song that promised a rearregend better version, but damn, not even like that the song got better. How Sweet is ETA's sad sister.
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#3 (G)-Idle - Nxde
I just really think it' a very mid song. It sounds like Senorita's annoying younger sister.
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IVE'S MINE is such an amazing album. I absolutely love every single song in it, especially Either Way. But then we have Baddie easily standing out as the weakest song in the whole album and yet gets to be the title. I definetly wasn't expecting it after Either Way and Off the Record MVs came out.
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#5 BlackPink - Sour Candy
When it came out I forced myself to love it. But honestly, it's so generic. Dissapointing, truly.
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The team that has done no wrong:
LESSERAFIM
Girls Generation
ohh wow i actually liked spicy >o<, but no worries i heard a lot didnt like the song. its all okay
also, i try to pretend itzy didnt release Cake. i just didnt like it. i was trying to get back into Itzy again and this just made me avoid them even more. I was disinterested ever since Lia went on hiatus, she was my bias.
(american schools are hella expensive.. why not listen to IU instead? 
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