That's true. Haters would be crowing over it for years to come
aespa and rv are just as bad as itzy and nmixx. I mean, look at their version, only Itzy has a few versions, but that's the normal version released by Twice and BP
don't forget bts rarely uses multiple versions
they are full of excuses and nonsense. a little or a lot is still a decrease
Mereka sudah melakukan keajaiban sebelumnya dengan lagu-lagu jelek JYPE, Momo bisa saja melakukannya lagi
I wish she can. Twice are 9 but solo are hard to her. Momo so good and nice if she successful I'm so happy
Display MoreLooking at one month sales is more interesting.
Aespa sold roughly 2 million for My world and just 1.18 million for Drama. That is nearly a 50% drop off.
Red Velvet sold 800k with Birthday in the first month and 420k in the second. Again a nearly 50% drop off.
If we can expect the same from both Itzy and Nmixx
Nmixx sold roughly 900k for PARTY o Clock in the first month. If we can predict the sales and follow the trend then they should only sell 450k at the most for this comeback in the first month.
Itzy sold 1 million the first month which means again we should see them sell roughly 500k at most.
We shall wait a month to see if this holds true.
People acting like only JYP girl groups are going downhill and so is SM. hybe congratulations on that but we know we have to see NJ and ssera's comeback
Baemon and BP will be safe because Baemon has just debuted and certainly won't come down and BP has also been on hiatus for a long time and out of contract. blink will do anything to break the album record. I'm sure the girl group jype my twice will also do the same
Ya, penilaian yang lebih jujur
- JYP terus menginvestasikan banyak uang dalam grup dan para anggota terus menampilkan penampilan vokal dan tari papan atas.
- Popularitas relatif telah menurun sedikit sejak puncaknya, namun mereka tetap menjadi salah satu girl grup teratas. Album terbaru mereka terjual 1,3 juta eksemplar, untuk beberapa perspektif ada grup yang menjual 250k album, 100k album, 50k album, 20k album, 5k album, dll dengan rilis.
walaupun itzy merilis lagu new jeans mereka tidak mendengarkannya lagi. Berkali-kali publik dan penggemar dikecewakan hingga identitas yang ada di kepala mereka adalah apapun yang dirilis Itzy pasti buruk. lebih ke kreatif, jyp harus membangun kreativitas dan menciptakan momen yang viral lalu mempertahankannya. Sayangnya, momen-momen konyol jype viral sia- sia
Display MoreGirl groups whose album sales dropped in the first week recently
Girl groups whose album sales dropped in the first week recently
820,000 copies (20 versions) -> 310,000 copies (6 versions)
490,000 copies (7 versions) -> 410,000 copies (19 versions)
1.69 million copies (11 versions) -> 1.13 million copies (17 versions)
NMIXX (day 1)
710,000 copies (8 versions) -> 120,000 copies (20 versions)
1. What’s up with NMIXX? Really?
2. 20 versions…?
3. They are not groups with many members, so why are there 19 versions and 20 versions?
4. Aespa sells well
5. Currently, the Chinese economy is on the verge of collapse, and there are even rumors of war, so album sales in China will definitely decrease, and idols who are about to debut will also be severely affected
6. NMIXX also surpassed 1 million copies?
7. What is happening in China??
8. Didn’t NMIXX sell 1.03 million copies with their previous album?
9. SM has many versions
10. Wow, Aespa’s album is selling so well
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all gen4 girl group fans are a multi group. returning twice hurt sales and caused a decline. it happened at aespa in the drama it also happened at nmixx and itzy
Moreover, AESPA doubled down on China's strike because of their very individualistic bar selfishness
Nmixx has always been not that big, they only succeeded because their comeback distance was long
Itzy failed because Lia wasn't there, the fans got tired and changed fandoms
Display MoreIt's just a random thought but I think individual member's popularity plays a lot more in charting than we thought
When ITZY first debut there was a lot of hype for the new members I remember.
But not sure what happened but after Not Shy and Mafia it seems like their charting wasn't as good.
Remember the most recent song that charted high? It was Sneakers. And coincidentally remember who went viral during that era?
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This video got a lot of views and hyped Chaeryeong way more than she was before and more and more people started checking on her and ITZY out which I think might have also affected Sneakers charting way more than what we thought
But comebacks after, there wasn't any like viral moments of any members.
JYPE's fear of his groups having a "Suzy" might have been his biggest downfall that he is subconsciously (or maybe purposely) restricting the growth of individual member's popularity because he is afraid they will outshine the group, but that reason might be the reason why his GGs recently weren't able to reach the charting heights they once had.
IVE we know they have 2 powerhouses of Wonyoung and Yujin. The other 4 members obviously aren't on the same level of popularity and if Wonyoung/Yujin weren't in the group I doubt IVE would be able to do so well. This is not saying the other members are unknown because they are actually doing fairly well but we know the gap is huge not just between those 2 and the other 4 members, but also between them and the rest of the industry.
LSFM I feel is a group where all members are pretty known. The recent Google search results reflected that a bit, with Sakura being the only 4th gen member in top 10 most searched GG idols and the whole group is in top 50.
aespa has Karina and Winter. Karina is really really popular, maybe only after Wonyoung/Yujin in Korea. Her Instagram followers are no joke.
New Jeans members are all pretty known as well. I don't follow the group ad closely but I see members being brands ambassador and stuff.
I also don't follow NMIXX that closely but somehow I feel Haewon is also everywhere. I see her on shows and MC gigs.
I don't exactly see the same happening to ITZY. I MIGHT BE WRONG ABOUT THIS, but just based on memory ITZY seemed more focused on touring and stuff now in their later years and didn't really spend the time to build their individual popularity. They don't go on shows, they don't have as mu u solo gigs from what I remember. They don't even have personal Instagram of which many of the above stated groups have.
Maybe it's also the music, because groups like StayC don't exactly have that big of a fanbase but Bubble and Teddy Bear did so well for a non Big 4 group. So well might be an understatement they actually did amazing.
But yeah I feel the member's individual name is one of the key reasons as to why they aren't charting as high as they used to. Because they released songs like Loco which were more reminiscent of the Dalla Dalla/Wannabe sound but that didn't do well and of all songs that did well it's freaking Sneakers where Chaeryeong had a viral moment
that's also what twice and nmixx do. they don't have enough girls with the star quality to succeed. twice has a lot but apart from nayeon and dahyun, it's foreign members like mina and sana. jyp is stupid and late in making individual schedules twice
they did the same thing on itzy. Instead of making a promotion for Yuna as MC, he sent the less charismatic Yeji as MC. Instead of making Ryujin the center, he actually made the position less appropriate.
What's even more stupid is not to let Yeji's ambassadorial debut suit Yeji and Ryujin very well. they practice the brand's soloist vibe with the ultimate individual
Lia and Chaer would be suitable as OST singers and guest stars on a variety show
wouldn’t freak out too yet. First week sales mean very little until we know the bigger picture with the first month sales. First week sales have always shown an incomplete example of the actual sale. It is mostly focus on due to Kpop fans impatience with waiting for Gaon, now circle, chart from updating. I do think ITZY and Nmixx will sell less after monthly sales but we need to wait to see the full picture. So I wouldn’t say it’s terrible just yet.
Their sales will drop in this comeback.
aespa even experienced a decline in album sales in the drama era.
aespa is much bigger than nmixx and itzy their fans are more loyal. the constant comebacks don't help that.
The audacity of KPOP stans to shit talk and be shady to China when they've been hard carrying their faves sales for years
because they are loyal to individuals see blackpink. China's biggest girl group but even their albums didn't reach half in the born pink era. in the album half the bp album is from china but born pink is even only a quarter. they also did the same to aespa in the era drama. because of the injustice of arrogant solo stans going on strike
They lost so much on album sales, I guess those 2-3 people who were always sarcastically bragging "they flopped so bad selling million😭" are shaking right now. Go sarcasm now you bafoons, your only brag just vanished, poof
Not just that, JYP stocks dropped a lor because of it. There is a post on qoo trending rn, it is gonna be fun soon once pannchoa translates it.
Itzy fans are mostly multi-stans and agency stans, many of whom have moved to other groups like AESPA or Nmixx because to be honest, their music concept is quite similar. even though it's a different type of song. plus ssera is also there. Of course continued comebacks don't help build hype
NewJeans are rumored to come back in March and based on IU's previous release pattern her main single will also likely come in March. IU will outchart NewJeans obviously, but if they can score a hit while going up against her that would be huge. If memory serves me right the last girl group to go against IU and hold their own incredibly well was Twice in 2018. If NewJeans can get a hit or even go number 1 against IU that cements their place(on top of their countless achievements of course) as the top 4th gen girl group.
what? 20218 are bad years to twice. Maybe 2017?
Gfriend - akan sangat besar. Mereka melakukannya untuk sementara waktu, sampai mereka berhadapan langsung dengan Twice dan sisanya hanyalah sejarah. Mirip seperti bentrokan NJ vs Ive pertengahan tahun 2022.
BM - akan seperti BP saat debut. Mereka masih bisa menjadi besar. Gagal di Korea, namun cukup berhasil secara global, berada tepat di belakang Aespa. Akan menarik untuk melihat apakah YG melanjutkan dengan satu-satunya strategi pemasaran global, yaitu Anda tidak perlu terlebih dahulu membangun basis penggemar di Korea, yang jika efektif akan mengubah cara grup Big4 berpromosi saat debut di masa depan.
YG never gave up on Korea but they didn't try hard. Likewise globally but I'm sure next year Baemon will change the game if Ahyeon is there. The girl practically made Charlie Puth's song come back up
predict disband blackpink and nugudom my twice
It's true that at that time GP and the fans also gave Itzy a chance after being disappointed since loco.
after that they continued down. The viral sneaker moment doesn't help because JYP sucks at promotion
now nmixx is also the same. they are still new, they were given a chance after lovee like this then sonar of course they look more loyal. even though they both rely on the right songs and promos
I was only speaking about 2016 since ioi was like only active for 10 months or something lol
Yep, it's 2016 because BP debuted that year lol
Nmixx debut dengan salah satu lagu yang paling tidak bisa diterima dari grup 4 besar menurut publik. Oleh karena itu, masyarakat tidak mempunyai ekspektasi yang tinggi terhadap mereka. Penggemar yang mendukung mereka benar-benar jatuh cinta dengan lagu-lagu mereka atau sekadar pendukung perusahaan. Kurangnya stan kesuksesan atau pengikut masyarakat umum sebenarnya merupakan berkah terselubung karena reaksi publik atau 'kualitas' lagu mereka tidak akan menyebabkan penurunan yang signifikan.
Di sisi lain, dengan Itzy, mereka memiliki banyak stan sukses, yang sekarang mungkin menjadi grup yang lebih sukses, mencari rasa superioritas yang mungkin tidak lagi diberikan oleh Itzy. Mereka disukai masyarakat umum, dan orang-orang menyukai musik, citra, dan konsep mereka. Akibatnya, jika mereka mengubah konsep atau jika kualitas lagu mereka menurun, mereka akan mendapat kritik yang besar. Mereka memiliki reputasi yang harus dipertahankan, tidak seperti Nmixx, yang lagu-lagunya kini memiliki basis penggemar sendiri.
Singkatnya, strategi JYP untuk Nmixx tidak buruk; ini hanyalah sebuah kasus untuk tidak kehilangan apa yang tidak pernah mereka miliki.
nmixx tidak bagus haha. views, stream, iTunes, bahkan chart mereka juga semua bergantung pada promo dan juga lagu itu sendiri.
mereka seperti itzy 2.0 dengan versi yang lebih baik. masih baru tentunya para penggemarnya masih penasaran dan semakin setia, namun hal itu tidak akan bertahan lama jika nmixx selalu mengecewakan. stan gen4 girl group jype sebagian besar adalah perusahaan penusuk atau multi stan. kamu harus tahu itu
you may not know. But most of Itzy's fans are multi-stans, especially corporate stans. Itzy fans refused to move on them. itzy and nmixx are not twice
they are practically the second choice of agency fans for gg. Yes, Nmixx now looks more promising, that's what Itzy did before
if jype makes a girl group with better debutants then they will also be left out
