To follow up, there is a great example with such a cool group G-Idle who spent just a huge amount of money on Superlady and Wife, but at the top of the charts there is just a b-side with minimal investment. I'm not defending JYP, I'm defending nmixx and Squ4d, who have already stepped on the rake of moving away from mixx-pop just because the general public didn't like it. And of course we are grateful that this was a one-time event and Nmixx continues to be Nmixx, and not another TikTok group
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I already said it before in another thread but JYP has no good objective music taste. They think singing talent automatically equals success
They won't put in the effort to make nmixx a good song, they'll just keep pumping out the same music and stay wondering why nmixx is so unsucessful compared to aespa, new jeans, and ive. No forced vitality is going to make anybody stan them, their just stupid.
And now a little truth, Newjeans are the leaders of the 4th generation, their music is perfect for them, all the tracks are hits. Aespa armageddon - flop, supernova - bop, guess what track they chose as the title. Aespa's album was as average as it gets, and under Lee Soo-man their discography was much better, I still consider that period to be their peak. IVE has been doing something weird lately, Heya couldn’t even win a single award or take a PAK, and this is with a Baddie track that’s even worse. They make very cool songs, but mixed with just terrible tracks that are unlistenable, and you know what I don’t want to listen to IVE encore. They are simply repeating the fate of ITZY, who released SOTY tracks at their debut, and then the quality began to decline and now they are scrambling to find their own genre. Nmixx already has a genre they stick to, I'll never hear them say anything they're bad at.
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Bro, NOBODY cares about this. Nobody in the real world at least, only weirdo Kpop stans make pop music into some crazy high school talent contest.
NMIXX could be Michael Jackson and Whitney Houston combined and they still would be relatively nugu.
It's about SONGS, it's about group or member POPULARITY and IT GIRL status, it's about VIRALITY and TIMING/LUCK.
Chungha dominated the Korean pop scene a few years back. Now she's nowhere to be found....did she suddenly forget how to sing or dance?
What kind of popularity are we talking about? I doubt any fourth generation group can pull off a Twice/BP tour these days, even with the incredible popularity of their hits. I'm ready to listen to their tracks on the way to work, but I'm not ready to support someone just because they released some hit. I don’t even want to listen to the album, I only liked one track, which is at the top of the charts. And considering that these hits are being pushed everywhere on YouTube, shorts, Instagram, Tik Tok, over time.
If it’s really interesting, American pop stars have been building up their fandoms for 10 years, while K-pop fans expect that in 2-3 years of releasing hits their fandom will be at the same level - no.
It's getting boring. Nmixx has developed a long term strategy to build a fandom, it may be slow but I am confident that this group will last for over 7 years.
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Magnetic is better if you are 13 years old and your goals in life are to make faces in front of the camera while recording another video on TikTok. The only advantage of Magnetic is that it is shoved into Spotify autoplay; this track is not capable of anything more. If it was a good track, it wouldn't need payola, it would eventually trend like Supernova, which is a really good trending track. illit will never be able to perform a single nmixx track in their life, while Sullyoon for the first time in her life performed Magnetic better than the original group
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Nmixx music is too difficult for children, it's more adult music. That's why many people don't like her, but that doesn't make her bad, and they form a strong fandom that will always support her. They have absolutely unique creativity, while some always float in criticism for plagiarism, nmixx just want new cool tracks. You are too focused on the charts, Magnetic is an absolutely stupid song for TikTok in all your top charts, the reason being HYBE bought autoplay.
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I'm not surprised by this, all that remains is to expose the Hybe sajegi and with this the MHJ mission is officially completed
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That's if MHJ wins the court case and can leave HYBE. New Jeans aren't going to take HYBE's side because MHJ doesn't want them to question her. She is an adult, she knew the girls before they were 18, she has had time to make them believe HYBE is out to get them.
There is no good outcome in all of this. The only normal outcome is MHJ leaving Ador. HYBE still owns most of Ador. Tokkis have no out in this whole situation, we all just want the girls to be happy and stress-free. Of course, we want them to be successful, but like I said what can we do.
There is no way she will be able to leave Hybe, they are currently considering a court case to prevent Hybe from firing her. The point is that if she remains at Hybe, she will continue to work with NewJeans until the end of the contract, while Ador will still be independent.
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GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT!!
TWS debuted on melon at around #200, purely supported by Seventeen's fandom and Pledis stans. Then the song slowly spreading mouth to mouth by children and teens, and Shinyu went viral several times on insta reels. And they only enter Melon top 10 D+20 debut and and top 5 D+22
External Content x.comContent embedded from external sources will not be displayed without your consent.Through the activation of external content, you agree that personal data may be transferred to third party platforms. We have provided more information on this in our privacy policy.My favorite tales are about supporting the younger ones, this is already a standard practice to justify any payola, but I’m 100% sure that the support from the 17 fandom was scanty, they could listen to them a little, but for the group to stay at the top for several months. Funny. Their backs were revealed in the first week, when all the artists on Melon lost streaming at night, except for TWS, where it even grew.
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Actually, it’s true, Fifty Fifty released a hit, but to be honest, they only found out about it half a year later. TWS flew into the charts from the first days, then evidence of payola was provided in the form of the fact that they were actively streaming at night, etc. So it’s hardly a hit, it’s just that Hybe has a payola scheme that they actively use and of course no one cares, because it’s much more important to say how bad MHJ is.
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She should end up in jail, I am sure that all the mediaplay against BTS for sagaegi, hoarding and what not was all her plan, what is even more enfurianting is that She has released more versions with one album of new jeans than BTS with 3, NJ has had better playlisting with their songs than BTS as group or as soloists with 5x more streams than them and no 1 on hot 100, even their whole fucking promo is greater than BTS ones
Cruella can rot in hell
Your BTS gets all the hype, they are the kings of payola. She didn't say anything new.
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hybe already replied to that accusation in their internal e-mail. mhj was talking about album pushing through retailer fan meetings (pervasive throughout the industry that even mhj did with the japanese retailer if i understood correctly). you think if she had proof of actual illegal chart manipulation she wouldn't have done that ages ago? is she going to accuse hybe of doing autoplay/playlisting deals when newjeans have been the ones that have used it the most?
Well, that was too weak, apparently she has serious evidence of manipulation from HYBE if she makes such an emphasis. In any case, the end of the story is coming soon and I hope the whole truth about HYBE will be revealed, given the performance of their groups. Many people have no doubt that HYBE is manipulating streams, we just hope MHJ can provide proof of this.
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That's right, now NewJeans' positions are organic and are proof that HYBE constantly uses payola for its favorite groups. Once again, the only thing that surprises me is that the prosecutor’s office did not look into HYBE on this basis and no one gives a damn about the presence of payola and manipulation of the charts, considering that most of the awards depend on these charts
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Well, yes, of course, it’s a failure on YouTube, a failure in sales, a failure in the Korean charts. Spotify, as always, HYBE has inadequately high performance.
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Super Shy - 10.7M YouTube views in the first 24 hours
How Sweet - 4,697,065 YouTubeviews in first 24 hrs
Drop in views 56%
Get Up — 1,194,623 Albums Day 1
How Sweet - 811,843 Albums Day 1
Drop in sales 32%
Hybe Stock Price Apr 22 - 210K (pre audit)
Hybe Stock Price May 25 - 200K (pre NJ release)
Drop 5%
Conclusion: GP don't give af about this Hybe vs MHJ mess.
Hybe Stock Price May 25 Didn't Bang fly to the US before the jump and even publicly say so through a media game? Releases have little effect on stock prices, because in the end you can earn 400 billion won on sales, spend 300 billion won on production, taxes, etc. the contributions will generally leave a profit of 50 billion won. But the fact that Bang flew to the USA says a lot; he flew to beg Western partners for help.
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When will the result of the MHJ v. HYBE trial be announced, with the purpose of prohibiting dismissal?
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Just look at HYBE’s reports, they make a lot of money from selling content, but the problem is that they spend no less on the production of this content, so the net profit is simply meager. HYBE does not know how to make money, JYP, which has not been on any charts for a long time and does not have billions of streams from groups, earns a little less or even more than a company whose every song is trending. MHJ is average between them in this regard, she knows how to earn money correctly