In defense of their claims that the fandom does nothing for streaming, when there was a situation with Suga, the fandom, and the majority, began to support him, including streaming, and as a result, they could not even enter the top charts of Spotify, this is all the power of the fandom, which, according to them, they present as the main argument for high streaming. Even for 1 day, they could not show anything massively streaming in support.
This is just another proof that Hybe's payola exists, including in relation to BTS, and there is no need to say that they are world stars. You don't have to be too stupid to not see how Hybe promotes its groups as much as possible on the same Spotify. Illit without a fandom has 2.5 million streams on debut, Katseye has 1.5 million streams on debut, LSF has a bunch of streams with falling sales, BTS has a huge number of streams, with a minimum number of listeners per month. And as an example of NJ, who turned off this payola, but nevertheless they did not disappear and show results, is it worth taking this lying office seriously at all? When their artists are nothing without Hybe's manipulations
Display MoreMirae Asset Presents 400 Billion Hybe CB Conversion Must-Win Card
Mirae Asset Securities has thrown a 'winning card' to Hybe's 400 billion won convertible bond (CB) issuance. It has proposed to inject equity capital for the remaining amount. Accordingly, Hybe is expected to succeed in issuing CB with the issuer's superior conditions for the second consecutive time since 2021.
According to the financial industry investment on the 27th, Mirae Asset Securities has informed Hybe of its intention to purchase the 400 billion won worth of CBs that Hybe is planning to issue with its own funds.
This means that if the investors do not gather the issuance target, Mirae Asset Securities will purchase the remaining quantity.
**Hybe has virtually reduced the risk of issuance failure to 'zero(0)' with the safety net provided by Mirae Asset Securities. ** It can also be interpreted that Mirae Asset Securities is showing considerable confidence in the Hybe CB conversion (refinancing) transaction. Mirae Asset Securities can generate profits by continuously holding the CBs they have acquired or reselling them (selling down) to other investors who have expressed an intention to invest.
The purpose of Hybe's CB insurance this time to convert the 3rd CB worth 400 billion won issued in 2021. The 3rd CB is a CB with a coupon rate and maturity rate of 0%. There is no option for adjusting the conversion price (refixing) that changes the number of shares to converted according to the stock price change.
It was a CB that could expect a profit from selling due to the rise in Hybe's stock price rather than interest income.
The conversion price of the 3rd CB is 385,000 won and the recent Hybe stock price is below this. From the perspective of CB investors, it is reasonable to use the early redemption claim right (put option) to recover the investment principal. Redemption claims are possible from November 5. In response to this, Hybe has been preparing for conversion through CB insurance since the beginning of this year.
The CB being issued this time is also a CB with both a surface interest rate and maturity interest rate of 0%, the same as in 2021. The refixing option is also not granted. Despite the clear advantage of the issuer, **it is reported that many security companies, including Mirae Asset Securities, competed to be the lead manager.**It is interpreted that this is because they paid attention to the potential for stock price increases, such as the effect of BTS' global expansion, as well as the stable growth and global expansion of domestic labels under Hybe, and the good growth of artists who debuted in Japan and the United States. In addition, as the Min Heejin incident that has continued since April of this year is coming to an end, it is analyzed that the psychology that the stock price decline has been confirmed to some extent has also influenced the competition for the CB lead manager.
An investment bankin (IB) industry insider said, "Investors have high expectations as the current stock price reflects the worst-case scenario for Newjeans," adding, "In addition to veteran groups such as BTS and Seventeen, newcomer IPs such as Tomorrow x Together, Enhypen, Lesserafim, Boynextdoor and Illit are also performing well, and th growth of Katseye, which recent debuted in the US, is also drawing attention."
Based on payola they are trying to attract new investors, seriously? It's just ridiculous, they don't even have a clear future for the company, just another BTS, SVT.
People like you are only capable of talking about good deeds without any action. Stop being so hypocritical and pretending to be someone you are not.
Well, i know this. I know I'm better than any God, even your God. If i have the chance I would stop the rape of a child, without any super power. He does nothing, just watch.
Well, fix it, in the end you still continue to just watch instead of doing something. I assure you that when you start doing this, if you start doing this at all, you will eventually develop aggression against people who will be your opponents, and then this aggression will move towards ordinary people who are simply expressing a different point of view.
Just look at the pain, anger, ferocity and unbreakable resolve in these eyes. hybe is never beating her
By the end of the year, everything will be decided, if MHJ wins, it will be a fatal blow to Hybe. If not, it will drag on for another year. In any case, it is best to finish before BTS returns, because the desperate Hybe will use them 100%.
But if it weren't for MHJ, we wouldn't know how dirty Hybe can play. In fact, before Hybe vs MHJ, everyone considered Hybe to be a fairly honest company that achieved everything thanks to talent, but in fact, these are just another media play games.
Now I feel like JYP just accidentally became a big player, considering the near zero media play. Seriously, JYP's philosophy of doing good for the sake of doing good will eventually bankrupt the company, while Hybe can still survive thanks to media play.
Like crazy had two million streams per day before who and it was out streaming seven then when he released who it dropped massively and it’s doing less than 500k streams per day.
His fans literally admitted using VPN to inflate his streams. Why would HYBE do payola for Jimin when Jungkook is the supposed to be the next main pop boy.
For the fact that Hybe is in a financial crisis now, investors are not ready to invest money in Hybe's promise. If he has many successful artists, then there will be at least some guarantees for the future.
If Young Posse suddenly hit 10 million streams in 24 hours on Spotify tomorrow, it wouldn't be payola, it would just be fans using VPNs to stream tracks.
I have explained million times it’s not payola his fans just mass stream
If this massive fandom streaming has been going on for 2 months, then why wasn't there anything like this with his tracks before the comeback? Seriously, before Who, his streaming was very small, where were all these fans with massive streaming before Who? No need to cover up obvious payola with fandom streaming.
and they call armys crazy lol
That's right, ARMYs are crazy, they insult artists and not only artists but also ordinary people.
I'm not surprised, they would rather show support for the alcoholic Suga than attack young girls.
Display MoreHow is pointing out that SA jokes are NOT okay, an immature mindset? Please do tell.
As myself and many others who have experienced horrible things of that nature, do not find the idea of it happening to anyone, even the perpetrators of that type abuse, experiencing it themselves funny, as we know how horrid it is. It affects your entire life and ruins your outlook on people. It destroys your ability to trust people for the most part, and makes you paranoid to go outside of the house. So, there is a reason victims tend to just want their abusers to spend the rest of their days in prison.
Considering how much this has been a topic of discussion, your "jokes", and the fact that I experienced a pretty atrocious situation as a teen related to SA and being held hostage. I was bound to end up saying something so please do not assume staff is "ganging up" on you.
This is the meaning of such jokes, they do not consider any actions normal, but simply ridicule something, the whole world is built on this, there is a lot of humorous content ridiculing Hitler, do you remember what he did? His genocide? But most of the world's population considers jokes about him funny. Think about it. Like I said, if you don't get the point of a joke then you're just immature, watch Jay and Silent Bob to better 
understand the point of my joke
Display MoreMy original point was to urge you to stop seeing thing in terms of fandoms. it's just more fanwar fodder, but I guess you want to talk about the "joke" and containing it.
First, it was never going to be contained. It started in a thread on Suga and Karl-III was hoping he'd to go to prison and get r*ped. And he doubled down after called out for it. It hasn't stayed in its own thread as yet another user tried to co-opt the same "dark humor" for the thread about Taeil.
IMO, sexual assault is a serious matter and not something to wish upon others then try to pass it off as a joke. Saying everyone does it doesn't make it alright either. It says a lot about the people that casually make these types of jokes. I'm all for people owning their words - especially ones they just casually brush off as nothing.
Let's try for the reverse situation: How would you handle it if no one said anything to condemn those types of jokes? Would you just let it slide then? Are they just as toxic to you then?
Are you 13 years old? 
There are, for example, 20 comebacks per year from 10 different groups, if you compare the indicators, then in most cases the main pool of purchases in the first days, then there is a significant decrease. If the track is viral, the purchasing trend resumes and this is lower than on the first day and lasts for a couple of days. Let's look at the situation with LSF: the first day there were 200k albums, then two days of low sales and suddenly on average 200k albums per day. Show me at least one group that has active sales 4/7 days to begin with.
Just because the fandom is constantly 