as someone who cares about kpop mostly for the music, i really believe this is not true.
itzy has some of the worst music of any gg right now. when itzy has released good songs, like loco, wannabe, dalla dalla, they have done well. when they release music like this though, you just can't expect people to like it.
i believe their song is this bad even though it's a good producer is because they were trying to match itzy music feeling. when you write for ive, you write for ive, but when you write for itzy, well you get an itzy song.
they just need to do something different that isn't this
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Okay, a professional can't make a good track based on a group's concept? When a producer can make cool tracks for different groups, it means he feels them, but ITZY's problem is that no producer can write them a good track based on your words.
Maybe they deliberately gave the songs they did the worst job on or maybe it's not intentional, it might be because Jyp bought it cheaper this is the reason i guess. I mean, since it can't be intentional that they have a bad song every time, I personally think it's because Jyp bought the song for a cheap price.
At a low price? At a low price, average producers sell, top producers sell tracks at one price - a high one. And in general, there is no concept of sales, the company pays the producer for the work.
As Cheshire(one of their best songs) was 100 better than cake and sneakers
This song is just outright bad and they are screaming! This song is out of their vocal range
I also often hear "name track" better than this, but neither Untouchable nor Born to Be did well in the charts and there was also talk that the tracks were just bad.
lmao y'all always do this, the song is not good and that's all there is to it. Clearly the majority is not liking it, there's not some movement against ITZY.
The last song was also bad, the one before that too, why is every release from the group bad, and yet professionals are involved in its creation?
I started watching them with Cheshire and I have never seen people unanimously say that a title is good. But constantly, a bad track expected better, it already looks ridiculous.
omg i just saw the song credits and the song suddenly became good u right
Yes, if a person has released a bunch of hits, then he knows how to make music and even his worst work sounds good. For some reason, when Ryan Juhn writes for IVE, it's always hits, but when he writes for ITZY, it's a failure. So what difference does it make who writes tracks for ITZY if youdon't like the next comeback, and so on. The question to ask here is, why don't you like ITZY?
I love Itzy, especially Yeji and Yuna. This song was overall just... not good. That is not Itzy's fault and I doubt people hate Itzy for that. Most of what I've seen is criticism towards the producer and JYP itself.
Ok, JYP gave ITZY a top producer, so it turns out that the producer is solely to blame if we're talking about the quality of the track.
The producer of Gold is Ryan S. Jhun, you understand that the producer who wrote more than one hit, a bonus Dem Jointz who worked with top artists. That is, professionals worked on the track, but people did not like it. It is hard to believe that Ryan Jhun does a bad job, hence the conclusion: people just do not like ITZY. Even if you invite a Grammy-level producer, people will still say that the track is bad and that they expected better.
No, I have a normal life. I like listening to music, but it doesn't affect anything, I just like music. The images of these people are created as ideals, ideal people do not exist.
NewJeans are now children of the nation, you have no idea how influential they are in Korea even without HYBE promotion. Aespa had a great year, but NewJeans are too influential.
If you look at the Melon chart, for example, which is the most popular chart, there are simply a huge number of NJ songs, even Hype Boy and Attention are still there, and these are just their first tracks.
HYBE said in court "Even if she is reappointed as CEO, the possibility of convening the board again to dismiss her cannot be ruled out."
Even if court grants an injunction again and reinstates MHJ as CEO, they will remove her again.
But why does MHJ want to come back as CEO as she a problem with Hybe, their multi label system, their working, why does she want to go back as CEO in a company who is 80% owned by Hybe.
They fired him once, we see the result, investors all left, the company's stock is unstable, Hybe is losing money. Do you think the company's reputation will only benefit if MHJ is fired a second time? They need to accept defeat and make all concessions to MHJ, otherwise the company will continue to suffer losses, regardless of whether BTS and SVT are active or not.
Let me remind everyone who forgot, Bang Si-hyuk's father is a high-ranking politician, the first lady of Korea together with the first lady of Japan personally came to Hybe and it is not known what their true motives were, Hybe often interacts with politicians, but for some reason someone is outraged by the interaction of politicians with NewJeans.
I think she needs to quit the K-pop industry and just do modeling. She's just out of place in K-pop, but she shines as a brand ambassador. 90% of the discussions online about her are based on some brand imagery, and 10% is everything else.
It's amazing that Hanni is only 20 years old, and she already faces the problem head-on, feeling responsible for what is happening. Suga is 31 years old, he is not even able to answer for his actions, he hid behind the backs of the company and fans, while they protected him.
That's because they're betting everything on BTS saving them.
But imagine being a publicly traded company and banking your entire future on one asset that may not even under your label in 5 years.
Karma is coming.
Investors said that HYBE was stupid for betting everything on BTS's comeback, so they took their 399.8 billion won and successfully left. In general, betting the future of the company on one or two old groups is the level of intelligence of ARMY, who always say that after BTS returns from the army, the company will suddenly make a huge profit.
The Grammys are totally irrelevant. They are basically a pay to win game. The most streamed artists, sans Taylor Swift and Beyoncé, refuse to even go to the Grammys anymore because they basically use their popularity to get ratings. True talents rarely win anymore. Most have even said this, look at may interviews of the most popular artists
If they paid to win, BTS would definitely win the Grammys. The Grammys are one of the awards that the fandom has the least input into, which is fair because ultimately the fandom doesn't care about the quality of the track, they just want to vote and have an impact. And even payola has no effect on the final result.
Secondly, talented people often take this award, maybe that's why BTS didn't take it, because they have no talent for music, personally I think their music is overrated due to the fandom and the influence of the company, there is nothing remarkable in it to give the highest music awards or even consider it significant to the world. But nevertheless, Grammys have a lot of nominations, and many insignificant people receive them. Billie Eilish received it not at the peak of popularity, but only at dawn, it was really worthy considering her talent.
Imo this would be better than NJ losing their music career and be kept in dungeon (assuming they couldnt break the contract)
if MHJ able to keep its authority over creativity direction then why not? At least it resolves one part of the issue. They just need to nego for creativity independence.
But for the member protection part, yea, if she is no longer the CEO then she can't "protect" them. But now all eyes will be on the new HYBE management and how they treat NJ. With NJ members being vocal now, they can at any point of time raise the concern to management or even publicly...
At least win half the battle than a stalemate...
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Because this offer from ADOR is a dummy, as soon as she signs the contract, she will be officially fired the next day. The contract stipulates unilateral termination. How can you not understand that BSH intends to fire her anyway, this person's greed and vanity are too big, as is his belly. If we look at the situation, MHJ just needs to take as much money from Hybe as possible and try to take NewJeans away, trying to sue for the band's name. Staying in ADOR is pointless, even if MHJ returns, Hybe will constantly undermine the company's activities.
The album sales of Seventeen and aespa in this month will probably show where KPop is heading to.
Although some acts were able to hold on, generally KPop album sales declined by around 30-40%.
SVT sold about 2.9mil and aespa 1.15mil in their first weeks this year. If there are marked decline to these figures that means the decline of KPop is permanent and cannot really be reversed.
Out of all the singers who had concerts in the Olympic or Soccer Stadium, all but two, including Lim Youngwoong, had sales north of 1 million. One of the exceptions was Psy who had more than 1 Billion views.
Yet the Koreans allowed someone who neither sold 1 million albums nor had 1 billion views to have a concert larger than anyone else. Her 2024 concert is the largest concert ever held in Korea during the 2020s, and will remain so since Korea no longer has any stadium capable of housing more than 35,000 now.
I see it as shooting its own feet.
The singer, whose name I won't mention here, had a larger concert than everyone in this year who had more than a million album sales, basically showing the world that all these album sales might not show the real popularity of such acts, to put it mildly.
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signified the beginning of the end of the album explosion of KPop.
It took quite some time for the reality to sink in, but if someone who never sold more than 400,000 albums in her entire career can have a larger concert than all these acts who sold more than a million copies, what were the fans doing by buying multiple copies of albums?
That was the beginning of a huge trend change. The singer who only had hostility against KPop might be getting her final revenge after all.
The general retreat of KPop from all across the board is turning into a rout, and at this rate on 2025 the highest selling act won't beat 2,000,000.
People like Day6 and Qwer do not clear huge numbers of albums.
What will happen to Kpop ? WIthout the huge sales the fervor cannot continue for too long. It was wrong to tolerate someone who regularly undermined KPop whenever she could, and that is going to hurt a lot.
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Why do people even buy this cardboard in such quantities, is it some kind of fetish? I personally bought a couple of albums, but I never even thought of buying several versions of one album.