Posts by Karl-III
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Le Sserafim x PinkPantheress
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I have no idea what you are talking about, what physical action? These people paid for funeral wreathes for a living person and are staying there to gard them to make sure nobody destroys them. Fans who photoshopped their pics did the same thing as them: used funeral wreathes for living people.
You are focusing on the wrong thing. You should focus on using funeral wreathes for living people and not your petty fandom wars. This is a death threat but you have no problem with that because it's about bts and everything is allowed regarding bts. Not surprised tho, your morals are non existent.
It's all about how the fandom behaves, not the wreaths, and what wreaths have to do with it. Wreaths are one way to get your words across to the company, but the reaction of the other part of the fandom is too provocative, ultimately turning the public against the artists.
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Listen to the instrumental version, it's much better than the track
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They literally do. Funeral wreathes are meant for a living person.
And what? The meaning is in the message, not the objects. It is logical that a group of people are against Suga, who broke the law, but what does their identity have to do with the leaking of this information to the network with subsequent abuse?
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So you are proposing to organize a hunt for fans? Maybe the next step would be physical action? The fact that the fandom does not receive a response to its actions ultimately passes on to the group
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The track is extremely boring and bland, it should have been released last year, when NewJeans and FiftyFifty were setting the tone, but now it is released at the end of the year, a strange decision, such a sound is not in trend. As a result, Illit could not find their sound, now they will look for it in the hits of past years. 3/5
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ITZY was ruined by Park Jin Young
ITZY was ruined by Park Jin Young
Putting the group in Division 2 itself ruined the group
From GOT7 to ITZY, ruining both groups
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1. [+133, -3] Even if the teenage girls in *censored' gathered and planned, it would still be better than Division 2
2. [+125, -0] I don’t understand why they listen to that song and say ok
3. [+124, -1] ITZY’s album this time also flopped… What should they do? ㅠㅠ
4. [+113, -8] When GOT7 and ITZY received good responses overseas, they should have captured the domestic market as well.. It’s lucky that Stray Kids is still a success story. If Stray Kids also failed, JYP should have taken YG’s hand and shut down the business
5. [+94, -3] It seems like there’s a problem with the head of Division 2. I suspect that this person was also in charge of Miss A before
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K-pop is simply overrated due to strong marketing, Stray Kids, who are so often referred to, are not even close to the streaming of Hybe/SM/YG groups, it is not about the music, it is about the lack of promotion. Chk Chk Boom had unreal marketing, but it is not even close to the tracks of Jennie, Lisa, aespa, etc. It is not even about the music, it is just that K-pop is so inflated that really good numbers are already considered a failure.
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Magnetic is a track for TikTok, does anyone remember anything from it except the chorus? I think the formula will continue, the simplest hand movements + minimum words in the chorus + catchy music. As BSH said, the main thing is not creativity, but IT companies, so we are waiting for active promotion in TikTok, Spotify, YouTube, etc.
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JYP seems to just be stuck in a dead production cycle across the board. The majority of their titles seem to be underperforming.
Maybe it's not JYP, he makes music and overall it's good music, Bet on Me and Mr Vampire are his best works in recent years, but I didn't see any response from listeners and it was very strange. If they released a track like Dalla Dalla, people would just start criticizing it for its outdated sound again, and the question arises, what to release. They make a lot of different music and how many of the 20 conditional tracks in the last couple of years have been noticed by the general public?
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Seriously, they heard this song and said yes.
I don't think even someone with simple music taste would want this song to be the title track. Maybe their companies are sabotaging them on purpose. Itzy's clear musical direction doesn't matter, jyp at least could gave them a listenable music. It would have made more sense if they had chosen one of the bsides from the album this time. The 2nd title track are more listenable and good in my opinion. Album songs was nice only title track is very weird.If these tracks are good, why don't they show the same results as the titles? No need to talk about, Day6 promotion - Happy was not promoted, this track is good, that's why it is so high, like many other Day6 tracks
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Nah, the song is just bad. I can’t lie to myself and say it's on par with Supernova or any Ive songs, even though they’re produced by the same people. We all know it’s not.
So, it’s safe to say the problem lies with JYP itself. Whoever is managing Itzy just has poor taste while those handling Ive and Aespa have better judgment. People forget that producers don’t determine the final product and don’t have much power to shape the song—they work based on the company’s requests. If JYP is asking for this kind of sound and approving this song, the blame lies with them, not the producers.
At this point, it’s a company-wide problem because not only is Itzy affected, but their other girl groups are as well. Clearly, it’s not the producers' fault; the people in charge just have terrible taste and vision.
But if you compare Heya and I Am, you will understand that the company does not decide anything. Heya is simply a bad track, it is not surprising that it failed in the charts, and the previous IVE tracks were so-so. It is unlikely that someone from the company chooses the track, they give the direction of the track so that the producer can do something based on it.
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YG - lost their main asset, will take a long time to recover with BM. SM - is just at the bottom, its main group RIIZE is having difficulties, aespa had a good year in terms of numbers, but had a weak tour. HYBE - problems with plagiarism, disputes with one of the top groups, no prospects for the future, everything is based on BTS who may not sign a contract. JYP - StrayKids are feeling good now, but the company has no prospects. I would choose YG, since they have already passed the bottom.
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Well I’m talking about JYP entertainment as a company of itzy not the person!
It is up to company to decide give the songs!
Ryan Jun or Dem Joints can’t decide to give Itzy the songs that suit their vocal range!
Should I show you my playlist?
30% of my kpop playlist has JYP songs
JYP tells the producer "we want a modern track", the producer already assembles a team that ultimately makes this track. Including the producer looks for people who determine the vocal range and based on this, something is created, why should JYP even think about tracks or a group when they pay money for others to do it. I have heard many bad tracks from aespa, IVE, TXT, Le Sserafim, etc., even the same Crazy is just a terrible track, where the vocals are cut to a minimum, but nevertheless, some consider the track good and did not notice strong negativity as with the same Gold. I am trying to figure out why in relation to one group all tracks, even bad ones, have a good impact, and in relation to another, any track is a failure.
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Again it is not up to producers to determine the vocal ranges of singers and give them the songs that suits them!
It is company that forces the singers to sing in this type of way!
But in this particular song it is very very obvious that itzy girls are screaming not singing!
JYP should’ve done better job giving more suitable song or they should’ve lowered the key of the song
You somehow brought JYP into the discussion, making it the culprit. I can tell you just don't like JYP, so you think any of their tracks are bad, regardless of quality.
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It is JYP who is giving direction to Dem Joints
And this song is clearly out of the Itzy’s vocal range!
Jyp is the company who forced Twice to sing in cutesy nasal type of way, jyp is the one that gave itzy cheshire(it my top 3 itzy song but it is clearly out of their vocal range)
And it is not a surprise that kpop company gives songs to their artists which are not in their vocal range
The main character there is Ryan Juhn and from your words he is an idiot who cannot determine the vocal range of singers. What does JYP have to do with it?
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Dem joints produces mostly for SM groups and he mostly produces experimental kpop songs!
Step back by GOT the beat, Supernova by Aespa, Nct songs and others
But company gives direction to the producer when asking for something! And JYP is sh*t at producing experimental songs! Also even after receiving the final product company makes a lot of changes!
Example Supernova by Aespa- SM cut half of the dance break part, and added more instrumental in the second half of the dance break so it doesn’t sound odd, boring and flat!
Jyp is just really really bad at making and directing experimental music!
Like they don’t even know after 5-6 years itzy’s vocal ranges to give them this song?
So in your opinion, the group of producers working with ITZY are idiots who can't determine the singer's vocal range?
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no, what i meant is that he clearly made the song pursuing itzy's worst sounds, rather than their best. itzy concept is like a weird obnoxious mess. despite this, in almost all of their terrible songs, there is a part that sticks out and makes it better. gold is completely devoid of any saving grace. i think if he had focused on itzy's better songs as inspiration, it could have been good.
itzy has proven that there is a way to orchestrate their concept in a way that works, but lately none of their songs have been accomplishing that. regardless of whether or not a producer has made good music before, if they are focusing in on the wrong aspects, it is bound to come out bad.
Born to be was in the style of young ITZY, but the track did not become a hit, as well as a couple of other tracks from the album, neither Dynamit nor Kill shot, this is exactly in the bold sound of the group. The question is, why?
