At this point, give Hanni a gun, so she can...
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This is seriously impressive af! Last year, Lsf made history as the first girl group in 20 years to hit over 2 billion in sales in a single year since 2003. Their total sales were 2.1 billion, the same as Nj this year. Just to add, in 2023, LSF dropped two Japanese albums, and both sold over 200k copies each.
Here’s a breakdown of that figure for Lsf:
49% came from streaming platforms, 31% from singles, 18% from albums, and 2% from digital downloads.
As for NJ’s Japanese release, it’s a bit tricky to pinpoint how much of their sales came from Japan, since their album wasn’t exclusively released there like most Kpop acts’ Japanese albums. Estimates suggest it’s over 100k, so I’m curious about their specific revenue breakdown. Are you telling me they thrive that much just from streaming because that's again impressive. Unfortunately, this specific breakdown was released by Hybe, so I don’t think we’ll ever know the exact numbers for NJ.
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I knew you were going to bring up the ads, that's my bad and also NJ has the advantage of having more videos on there (BM=369, NJ=684).
So let's compare their content views only. Idk I don't think they use that much ads on their content so I think it's fair to compare their original variety shows:
BAEMON TV + NEWS 7 - 6 videos, started Mar 6, 2024
3.7M + 1.9M + 2.6M + 759K + 1.5M + 499K = 11M
JEANS ZINE CAFE + BAKERY - 7 videos, started Aug 7, 2022
535K + 1.3M + 398K + 1.7M + 309K + 994K + 184K = 5.4M
JEANS ZINE SCHOOL + MBTI - 7 videos, started Sep 10, 2022
214K + 1.4M + 175K + 555K + 1.7M + 890K + 348K = 5.3M
JEANS ZINE YEAR END PARTY + SEOLLAL PARK + VDAY - 6 videos, started Dec 22, 2022
521K + 471K + 1.4M + 849K + 732K + 489K = 4.5M
JEANS ZINE GAME DAY + DANCE - 6 videos, started Feb 16, 2023
949K + 907K + 667K + 612K + 584K + 1M = 4.7M
JEANS ZINE GRANNIE'S FARM + OFFICE + GYM - 6 videos, started Mar 23, 2023
1.5M + 988K + 801K + 619K + 1.3M + 842K = 6M
JEANS ZINE DEBATE + ROOM + OUTDOOR - 7 videos, started May 11, 2023
1.6M + 855K + 1.4M + 768K + 1.7M + 1.1M + 950K = 8.4M
JEANS ZINE GINGERBREAD HOUSE + GAME - 6 videos, started Jan 18, 2024
649K + 468K + 943K + 948K + 586K + 569K = 4.2M
JEANS ZINE DEBATE + OUTDOOR + NIKE - 7 videos, started Apr 25, 2024
1M + 571K + 631K + 505K + 689K + 880K + 718K = 5M
Even with NJ's contents having the advantage of being released way earlier, BM still has way more views. But I don't think I'll convince you since you still insist on BM using ads for their contents too. I tried so let's just agree to disagree. I still think BM has more fans watching their contents cuz of their hardcore SEA fans.
Hmmm Forbes, how did they come up with that? Isn't Forbes the same one who said Kylie Jenner is a billionaire but took their word back and said she isn't actually one? I mean it was pretty obvious you thought I was an army with that lil 7 comment.
So, this is your comeback? It's honestly laughable. Are you really so obsessed that you count everything one by one? Baemon using ads in their content isn't even a secret. Just look at the early discussions about them and how people talked about YG overusing it, people noticed. Obviously, I disagree because this isn't even close to being accurate. I present real data, and here you are, embarrassingly counting things one by one. Seriously, it's creepy too. And obviously Nj had more videos is an advantage to them, that didn't prove them doing bad there.
And just because Forbes made that mistake, does that mean all the data is wrong? Like, did they even taken back their statement this time. So, what's the problem. Also, Forbes Korea has its own team, separate from the US one. I'd rather trust this source compared to the one you presented.
At the end of the day, you're wrong. In every angle, Nj is not bad in Yt. How it's hard to accept?
And now you put words in my mouth? You have the number in your username hence why I call you that. Now you blaming me lil 7?
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I'm talking about CONTENT VIEWS on their channel and I'm not talking about Korea only or how much money they generated on YT or Youtube MUSIC
https://charts.youtube.com/artist/
Total views
Global · Dec 1, 2023 - Dec 1, 2024
BabyMonster: 2.37B
NewJeans: 1.99B
BabyMonster is a younger group than NewJeans and they got better views. Just saying overall with their popularity, not many people are tuning in to watch their contents because they are boring variety wise. I'm no lil 7 lol bfr!
I believe you're not that bright, to be honest. Sorry to be harsh, but seriously, didn't you check first at least? You’re talking about content views, but I bet you didn’t realize BM released their MV on their OWN YouTube channel, not on YG’s. So, how those mv views get separated here? And not to mention, the views include ads, which we all know Baemon uses even for their content. If not you actually only just proving my point that Nj really doing well there.
Also, the Forbes literally list powerful YouTube channels among celebrities in Korea, like how you think they earn those money if not from their views? Like think a bit? Hybe groups like Nj only use their channel to release personal content, not Mvs. Yet, they’re still up there with groups that release Mvs on their channels. And you want to tell me they have low views on their content? How it works? And you have that number 7 on you name, it's not an insult to call you that. Never said you're part of any fandom.
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Show me the data proving they're doing that poorly and the views for their contents are bad. Like give me the numbers. And you're acting like Nj isn’t still such a young group, with their main company trying to bury them even before they celebrate their 2nd debut anniversary. That’s the only thing holding them back this year. Yet, here’s my data showing how they’re performing in line with their popularity on Youtube even as a very young group. So, Lil 7, show me your proof that they’re doing badly compared to their peers.
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I've noticed they do not have many fans watching their youtube videos and their engagement is low. Are they boring to watch like NJ?
Why is Nj catching strays here? Their Yt engagement is solid, and their personal content always trends in Korea. Their mv are just long, have multiple versions, and don’t use ads like other groups.
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It’s not cringe!
This song is the SOTY in my house. It’s so catchy, and the vocals are chef’s kiss. People are sleeping on them!
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Isn't this person the Tokkis' lawyer? Is this case imploding? I'm confused!
External Content x.comContent embedded from external sources will not be displayed without your consent.Through the activation of external content, you agree that personal data may be transferred to third party platforms. We have provided more information on this in our privacy policy.Tokki Lawyer? That guy spreads so much fake, ridiculous, and disgusting 'news' about the whole hybe vs Mhj feud on Twitter. He’s even claimed that the Nj girls are 'selling' themselves to old men for support, that’s how disgusting and unreliable his tweets are. He’s also a Fearnot, but Armys on Twitter back him because they hate Nj so much that they treat everything he says as fact, even though he never provides valid sources. He’s also a sexist and racist who hates other girl groups that are a threat to Lsf.
Apparently, he comes from the infamous GP999 DC Gallery—an incels hub that's also a big fanbase of Lsf. It’s a place where bunch of incel men create fake rumors to ruin other female idols and girl groups' reputation (even before the feud between Mhj and hybe, there was already talk about how Lsf's Korean fandom was the most hated in the Korean kpop community because of this behavior). Even Belift and Dispatch supposedly use that place as a 'source,' which shows just how ridiculous and baseless their so-called evidence is.
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Tati, use your shaman power and predict what will happen next
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It's more entertaining to see how you're not even a fan of them or any hybe groups, but you're still so deep into this. Obsessed isn't even the right word, because even those hardcore hybe stans here gave up on this feud ages ago. Like I get why that Killingsomething user is so crazy since she is a hybe stan, but you don’t. And as someone who only watch from the sidelines, you weirdly always projecting the worst for the girls. You’re not even neutral anymore for it to just be some normal unbiased opinions or justify your obsessive actions on Nj and this whole feud
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① Let me start with the conclusion.
"Adore has neither the will nor the ability to protect New Jeans."
To fly freely like a bird. (But the bird is not bound by a contract to a tree branch.)
New Jeans plans to follow Min Hee-jin. A representative who has the will and ability to protect them.
Here we go, hybe ’s media play is starting to pressure the girls. They are now bringing out the big gun as their big weapon. It’s crazy how Dispatch are more invested in this issue while ignoring all the hybe controversies this year, including how Bang is currently accused of a huge fraud that will become bigger news than a group of idols terminating their contract. They paycheck must be that fat.
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So if they terminated their contract with Ador, how would Hanni be allowed to stay in SK?
Most foreigners working in Korea have their Visa sponsored by the company they are contracted with, and ending the contract risks the visa.
Wouldn't Hanni, who is likely on an E-6 entertainment visa and requires sponsorship by a contracting employer, in particular have to find a new contract and visa sponsor toot-sweet?
Would Hybe be evil enough to make her visa eligibility an issue?
I can imagine at her level there could possibly be some kind of exemption made, but it's something to consider
I'm not sure if they go through the typical E-6 visa process, but if they do, Hanni and Danielle would have 30 days to find a new company to sponsor their visa. That’s why what Nj did is the best for them with this kind of contract termination, they can work right away, and Hybe can’t use that as leverage against them.
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I’m wondering if hybe’s decision to suddenly make the old Pledis vp, who Svt was close to, the new Pledis ceo while still being the head of Hybe Label Japan means something. It’d be interesting if Svt left too, especially since Bsh and his gaming bros are trying really hard to cut down on their dependence on Bts end up running in circles. That would be funny.
Anyway, I hope the best for Svt and that they’re at least treated fairly and according to their worth. I don’t think they haven’t noticed by now the gap in treatment and favoritism between the hybe groups that were debuted by Bsh and his gang, and those that weren’t. Gfriend, Nuest, and Fromis end up with disbandment (not sure about Fromis, but still), and NJ is being pushed to the edge.
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OMG I just had an epiphany. What if Ador recruits new idols/trainees to fill the void left by the 5 members, kinda like the fifty fifty situation and start releasing flops - surely that's gonna tarnish the NewJeans legacy 😭
Don't worry, Ador can't do that unless Nj has someone like Keena in the group
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What if she's the mhj's shaman
Where’s Tati been? She’s been so quiet lately. I remember when illit debuted, she was against them, saying they were made to replace Nj while a lot of Tokki here defending the group. And she predict the feud between Mhj and Bsh correctly way before it went public. What if she’s actually Mhj
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Minji, Hanni, Danielle, Haerin and Hyein issues official statement notifying ADOR that they have terminated their contract with the company:
— “Hello, this is Minji, Hanni, Danielle, Haerin, and Hyein.
As of November 29, 2024, the five of us have terminated our exclusive contract with ADOR and will continue our activities independently, free from HYBE and ADOR.
ADOR, as the agency that signed an exclusive contract with us, has a duty to manage us diligently for our benefit. On November 13, 2024, we made a final request to ADOR to rectify their breaches of duty. The 14-day rectification period has passed, but ADOR refused to make any corrections, and none of the issues we raised were resolved.
Over the past few months, we have made several requests to ADOR for rectification. However, ADOR consistently responded with evasion and excuses. We want to make it clear that genuine communication based on mutual respect was not possible due to ADOR.
In our rectification requests, we demanded specific actions from ADOR. However, ADOR took no action to rectify the issues within business hours, making it physically impossible to address the issues within the remaining rectification period. Therefore, ADOR’s claim that we did not wait for their response before holding an yesterday press conference yesterday is nothing but wordplay.
We are notifying ADOR of the termination of our contract due to their breach of contractual obligations and failure to rectify the issues within the rectification period. This termination notice is in accordance with our exclusive contract, and all five of us have signed the termination document. The notice takes effect immediately upon its delivery to ADOR on November 29, 2024. From that moment, the exclusive contract is null and void. Therefore, there is no need to file for an injunction to terminate the contract, and we are free to continue our activities from November 29, 2024.
Additionally, we have faithfully fulfilled our contractual obligations as ADOR’s artists. The termination of the contract is solely due to ADOR’s breach of duty, and we are not liable for any penalties.
We do not wish for anyone to be harmed by the termination of our contract. We will diligently fulfill all contractual obligations made between ADOR and other parties before our contract termination.
Our decision was made after long and careful consideration. We can no longer remain with ADOR, which fails to fulfill its basic duty of protecting its artists, and maintaining the contract would only cause us severe mental distress. Thus, we have concluded that we must leave ADOR.
Furthermore, we have been hurt and shocked by numerous amounts of media play based on false information. We hope that such situations will not occur after our contract termination.
We will continue to do our best to bring you great music. We would be thankful if you support and watch over the days ahead for the five of us.”