Posts by Blossomin88

    Hybe could’ve used Nj to compete with other girl groups they envy so much. Nj gave them the western breakthrough they were desperately trying to achieve with their other groups after Bts. But now they’re messing up the girls' path with dumb decisions driven by Bang’s jealousy. Like, why debut the girls and ask Mhj to stay if they’re just going to make Nj a filler group like Fromis and without letting them reach their full potential? And what do they even want from Mhj if they didn’t believe in her ideas from the start? Why bring her into the company at all? To make sure she's not out there debuting a group that can challenge Hybe groups in the future?

    You all really think BSH would let some outsider have first hybe gg under hybe? Newjeans was never supposed to be solely MHJ GG, yes she was promised a label and GG after she's done creating a gg for "bighit under soumu". BSH was supposed to be executive producer, soumu for management and MHj as creative director.

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    I think there’s been some confusion. Lsf were never actually part of the plan; it has always only been Nj as the only Hybe gg supposed to debut in 2022. Mhj was never supposed to be a Ceo but a director under Soumu as hybe company have two different authorities in management and creative section. They promised her that it would be her girl group since she would have total control on them too.


    Yet, when she presented her concept and played “Attention” for them, all the higher-ups criticized her, saying the group would not be successful because it was against current trends. Suddenly, Bang wanted to sign Sakura and Chaewon and debut them with a girl crush concept to guarantee the success of their first girl group.


    Now, the NJ members' debut is unclear which makes their parents resented Hybe, even though they have been with the company since it was established just to be thrown at the side for more popular idols. They will probably be in the Runext lineup or remain inactive for years.


    What did MHJ do? She wanted to left but the old Hybe ceo persuade her to not do that. So, they give her condition if she want to debut NJ and establish her own company, she must gave up her shares in Hybe, which she agreed. She already had everything ready for her girl group, from concept to songs, since 2020. That's the history of Ador and how Mhj become a ceo.

    I bet there will be something about Bts's enlistment in there, the reason why Youngseo dropped out of Illit, more about Aespa and Sm since Hybe is obsessed with them, how Bang Sihyuk is the genius king of Kpop, and they probably also covering about their dispute with Kakao.


    Damn, even I can't think of what else they could write to reach 18,000 pages. They could probably beat One Piece series if they decided to make a manhwa out of it.

    I don't understand one thing, if they disliked newjeans that much. Why did they invest so much in them? I think newjeans is the most well promoted group under hybe and it cannot even due to MHJ only because it's hybe who had connections with lolla, BB and international brands and companies.


    They didn’t invest more in them compare to other groups; Mhj just knows how to budget well, which is why Ador is doing great. And seriously, how are they considered the most well-promoted group in Hybe? It's all seems effective because they're in everyone radar. Nj is the only new girl group under Hybe that doesn’t have MC contracts, barely appears on variety shows, very few fanmeeting and fancalls to promote their cb, and didn’t even have a debut showcase. Even Tokki complaining a lot with how bizzare Mhj promoting them.


    Plus, it’s not all because of Hybe connections. Nj is one of the most popular 4th gen groups, and even without Hybe connection, they can easily got invited to Lollapalooza just like Ive and Stray Kids just because of their popularity alone.


    And not all brand deals they have coming from Hybe hands. Nj will be their last choice for it if it's true. Remember how furious the Hybe ceo was during the "OMG" era when Apple signed with Nj because they didn’t want anyone else? And there was that whole Lv contract they tried to snag from them too. Even now, while they’re fighting with Hybe, none of those brands have dropped the girls, which will be the opposite if they getting all that thanks to Hybe. Not to mention how Lsf unable to get as much as cfs and brand deals if it's all because of Hybe connection. Mhj has been around forever and has her own network, she already said that when people know that she will debuting a gg, tons of brands already reaching out to her.

    So NewAhLe means New Jeans, Illit and Le sserafim?

    Why exactly do they hate New Jeans so much? They're their most successful gg. Is it because the group was managed and produced by a woman and doesn't reflect Bang's ideals so he can't take credit for their success?


    This is what I don't get. Is it really saying that? I'd imagine shareholders are more than thrilled to have such a successful group as NewJeans. If that's really what the plan is, clearly it has to be some kind of personal issue because it's obviously not money if they're planning on just throwing away such a huge cash cow.


    There’s a saying: "A man's biggest enemy is his own ego." History has plenty of stories about men’s egos wrecking big empires and civilizations.


    Nj blew up faster than Lsf, which was supposed to be Hybe’s flagship girl group, with big names like Sakura and Chaewon. Look at the chat between him and Mhj right after Omg made it into the Bb hot 100, Bang was furious and reacted coldly instead of congratulating them when Nj is from his own company.


    He had been trying really hard to get txt onto that chart for ages but kept failing, which shows he doesn’t really have the formula for Bts’s success like he claims. To make things worse, his first girl group got outshined by Mhj when he genuinely thought Nj wouldn’t stand a chance at becoming successful because they're not following the current trends of girl crush concept. And losing to a woman probably stung even more, especially given how deep-rooted misogyny is in Korean society.

    Even Hybe don't like their music, they would do kpop a benefit to remove NJ and their boring music.

    I don't understand why people still choose to be vile, even as a joke. Pick a better joke please. These girls are real people, not toys or dolls, and what's happening now could literally destroy them. Their careers are at stake, and it's never an easy situation for anyone , especially teens like them while facing huge backlash in public because of their own company. If any of them end up on the edge because of this, will you still say the same?

    I really have a mind to tag all those Hybe stans masquerading as concerned Illit fans that said NewJeans were bullies for siding with MHJ, filing that complaint and Hanni should have shut up and allowed herself to be ostracized by Belift staff

    I just checked Twitter for the first time in a few months just to see their reaction, and guess what? They're still saying it's MHJ's and NJ's fault that Hybe wants to destroy them. And they claiming all of this is Mhj's media play to overshadow Jin's comeback and dragging Bts down. Crazy people

    Something to the effect of new-il-le

    NewJeans out, some new Hybe group in


    I'll have their tongue for this

    It’s wild that they had this planned back in 2023 after Mhj signed that contract saying she can’t work in the same industry as long as she has shares in Ador (which Hybe has to approve for her to sell). They probably saw how big Get Up blew up and decided to make a move. It's pretty messed up, and NJ is just trying to protect their careers because they really have nothing to lose. Hybe is already trying to push them out, and they can't simply walk out from that company. Poor girls

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    Updating the thread since well, even Korean side thought that way...


    The translation (sorry if I mistranslated any part, I’m still learning):


    "There was something I thought about. If Illit uses a virtual character on Yt, the team could act as a gateway connecting the Osb universe with the real world.


    With girl groups now hitting 1 million album sales in their first week, it makes sense to group them with Bp, Lsf, Aespa, and Ive.


    I think it’s time to move away from the whole 4th gen narrative. I spent days trying to figure out 'newar' (it feels like a nickname and doesn’t really mean anything in English), but in the end, I think the solution is to drop the 'new'(nickname?) and just create a new version."




    So...


    1. Isn’t it odd to leave Nj out of that million seller group when they’re Hybe top girl groups?

    2. The way it’s written feels a bit ambiguous. I mean what are they trying to drop?


    Maybe I’m wrong, but this part really made me wonder when I read the report.

    Damn, this reminds me of when I was a cringey teenager wearing that Kpop t-shirt with a big ass idol’s face on it. And this one aunt came up to me and said, “Aiyahh, Jackie Chan looks so handsome! You kid sure have good taste.” Like excuse me ma’am, my Baekhyun only in his 20s to be mistaken for Jackie Chan

    :crycat5:



    (But Jackie Chan is indeed good looking, especially to the older Asian generation eyes, so I’ll take it as a huge compliment 😉)

    They didn’t get to choose where they debuted. Mashiro didn’t go to Madein because she wanted to (we’ll never really know if she did) but because of their company decision. Yeseo didn’t join just to follow Mashiro either, they both had to because of their contracts. And Madein’s sales aren’t bad; their debut album sold 65k copies. In comparison, Kepi’s last album sold 118k. So, the group not exactly nugu, they’ve good amount of fanbase as the starter for a new group.


    That said, it’s obviously still really upsetting, because Yeseo already dealt with so much during her time in Busters, where she got sexualized as a minor and now this again. 143 really need to stop promoting them this way and focus more on their female fanbase since that’s where most of the profits come from. Yeseo and Mashiro have that cute, little-sister vibe that their Japanese female fans love. They don’t need to cater to men with gross fan service to grow their fanbase.

    Every time something happens to Hybe or their artists this year, new controversy about Nj and Mhj seems to pop up. It started with Lsf’s Coachella issue. Just when things got messy, an unexpected audit of Ador and Mhj was launched, such a perfect timing to kill two birds with one stone. After MHJ’s conference, fake articles claimed she mentioned other groups to drag her down were everywhere. There were also tons of fake edited chats reveal and a sexual assault case that Hybe themselves dismissed and suddenly being investigated by the said woman who make that decision back then. They suddenly acting like an innocent saviour when they're also part of the problem if the case is real.


    When Illit faced that plagiarism issues, Belift released that controversial stupid video. When Tws had plagiarism controversy, the media suddenly filled with hundreds articles about the Mexican Jeans that suddenly appears overnight, and random dating rumors between Hanni and Anton also circulated though no one believed it.


    There have been so many of it that I even forget a lot of it already and it’s hard to keep track. But what I remembered, everytime Hybe under attack, something about Mhj and Nj always coming out. Always.


    So, I wonder what they’ll come up with this time to shift attention to the other side.