What is considered good charting?

Pie charts are lovely

Good charting imo is consistently getting top 100, idk bout longevity though

It depends on the group from what I can tell. Sometimes songs get to number one in Melon but they're terrible flops but other times getting into the top 70 is basically a national hit

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Idk anymore, I wanna know as well because even top charting groups get dragged on a basis for simply not hitting number one consecutively or top 5-10 all the time they drop something.

I imagine for groups who have never charted well, some significant brag worthy charting for the critics here would be like holding 25-50 for a couple of weeks.

While holding any spot in the 100 for the entirety of a couple is a humble brag to put them on the radar for said chart critics

I wouldn’t even try to know because the goalpost probably shifts around constantly

For akpop idk, i've even see BTS called flop

I can give you some standards for "good" charting:

Peak in the top 20 of Melon Weekly Chart.

Stay in the top 20 for at least 8 weeks.

Gaon is untrustworthy at this point, too easy for fandom manipulations, i think Melon Weekly is the toughest and yet most accurate chart out there.

Now if you wanna move up from good to great charting, you can tighten up them standards even more, make it top 10 on Melon Weekly Chart with at least 10 weeks in the top 10.

Then you can go for broke and get to "national hit or SOTY contender" charting, which means peaking at #1 on Melon Weekly Chart and staying in top 10 for at least 15 weeks.

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Sorry should add if you do manage a PAK, you better sit there for 4 months or you still flopped.

Whoever thought up PAKs was clever as hell, that shit is like catnip for Kpop fans, it's hilarious watching them wielding their faves' PAKs like weapons in fanwars,

pak, rak, whatever other all kills that exist, 736 roof hits in 24 hrs, and you have to maintain it for a year straight

Hmmm I think at least 500mil over all digital index a year to be considered “decent” in charting I,e with multiple releases. If you only have one release then at least 200mil digital for that. These are not huge hits but the minimum you should be able to get to even be considered in conversations about charting.

If you can’t manage that you’re not relevant digitally in Korea.

I base mine on what EXO have achieved. EXO surpassed 1 billion digital index overall multiple years and a song of theirs usually is able to get 500mil digital index.

A “certified” hit can get 700mil-1 billion digital index or more with a single song. Apart from certification for downloads, streams etc.

In 2021 the minimum digital index you required to enter top 100 year end Gaon chart was 200mil and to enter top 200 was around 100mil

I guess that can be considered as a baseline.

If your song can’t achieve at least 100mil digital index meaning you can’t even enter the top 200 charting songs of the year, then I guess it truly is a flop.

If you can’t get above 200mil then it’s not as abysmal but it’s also nothing to write home about so the 200mil would be flop in <my> books.

Something else interesting since it’s inception digital index has dropped at least 100mil-200mil points. So if absolute digital numbers are a bit volatile I guess another bar would be not being able to get digital index equivalent to 200th/100th song on the Gaon chart

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In 2021 the minimum digital index you required to enter top 100 year end Gaon chart was 200mil and to enter top 200 was around 100mil

I guess that can be considered as a baseline.

If your song can’t achieve at least 100mil digital index meaning you can’t even enter the top 200 charting songs of the year, then I guess it truly is a flop.

If you can’t get above 200mil then it’s not as abysmal but it’s also nothing to write home about so the 200mil would be flop in <my> books.

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100m digital index generates around 100k us dollars (what I remember someone correct if I'm wrong). Ignoring that money, feels like a ridiculously high bar for a "flop" when a song with that success is still above 99% of releases that year.

So in short, kpop fans (and music stans in general) have skewed perspective when it comes to charting. I know it's funny to call an underperformance by some big artist a flop but the truth is they are still on the high end of success lol. The actual flops are so much lower

Good charting - feel my rythm, love dive, weekend, eleven

Mid charting - run2u , alcohol free, queendom

Flop charting - boygroup songs, scientist, loco

Well in akp i guess it's depends whose group/s. BTS was called flop coz a few of their released songs didn't get no. 1 but the longevity is crazy. Lol

I think top 10 multiple weeks is good