Why didn't Woojin (ex-member of stray kids) get the benefit of the doubt?

bc JYP has made people he only keeps those of the best character in his company and anyone they kick out must be problematic.

Alot of ex-JYP idols get bad treatment from their fans

Few members showed their disappointment over his actions, people started to believe more that he's guilty of at least something

There were multiple stories coming out at the same time.

As far as I know, one of them was debunked, and somehow people think that means he is totally innocent or something.

Not saying that he is or isn't, I don't know, but all that smoke doesn't come from nowhere imo.

maybe because he was the least popular member so not many fans could stand up for him or cared to

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Well, the thing is, even before Bang chan said this, many thought it must be true and woojin was already being cancelled before this video. Also, didn't bang chan say it wasn't about him and even if it was about him, maybe he meant other kinds of mistakes. he did get proven innocent after all and the charges were cleared. The one who posted the story even admitted they lied and still many people aren't believing it. Wonho also had some serious accusations but his fans actually believed it was fake from the beginning, even tho the person who 'exposed' him was a known person (ullzang or smth).

Bang Chan never said this isn't about him. He said the song he released "I Don't Want to Admit" isn't about him, because people were making assumptions. Different situations.

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Well, the thing is, even before Bang chan said this, many thought it must be true and woojin was already being cancelled before this video. Also, didn't bang chan say it wasn't about him and even if it was about him, maybe he meant other kinds of mistakes. he did get proven innocent after all and the charges were cleared. The one who posted the story even admitted they lied and still many people aren't believing it. Wonho also had some serious accusations but his fans actually believed it was fake from the beginning, even tho the person who 'exposed' him was a known person (ullzang or smth).

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Why would Stays care enough to give the benefit of doubt to a person who brought disappoiment and gave extra work and headaches to their faves to re-record to a nearly comeback, re-rehearsing for a tour and re-record again the whole discography, also anxiety for making they believing their fans could leave them (there were members literally breaking down on concert because of the amount of stress), no to mention still having their name directly related to this person everytime he gets in trouble.

Also, in general and not only Stray Kids' fandom, people keep not supporting him, because of the way he dealed with the scandal, not the accusations itself.

Idk ask akp pips

I tried to defend him since nothing was proven but still, people did their best to insult him while also jumping to conclusions faster than the speed of light.

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Why would Stays care enough to give the benefit of doubt to a person who brought disappoiment and gave extra work and headaches to their faves to re-record to a nearly comeback, re-rehearsing for a tour and re-record again the whole discography, also anxiety for making they believing their fans could leave them (there were members literally breaking down on concert because of the amount of stress), no to mention still having their name directly related to this person everytime he gets in trouble.

Also, in general and not only Stray Kids' fandom, people keep not supporting him, because of the way he dealed with the scandal, not the accusations itself.

This gave war flashback to Kris leaving right before the lost planet tour. I never forgave him. Ever.

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Well, the thing is, even before Bang chan said this, many thought it must be true and woojin was already being cancelled before this video. Also, didn't bang chan say it wasn't about him and even if it was about him, maybe he meant other kinds of mistakes. he did get proven innocent after all and the charges were cleared. The one who posted the story even admitted they lied and still many people aren't believing it. Wonho also had some serious accusations but his fans actually believed it was fake from the beginning, even tho the person who 'exposed' him was a known person (ullzang or smth).

There are a couple of "scandals" that I think you may be confusing:

-- In early October 2019, Stray Kids announced a comeback that would be Levanter. In late October, Woojin abruptly left the group citing "personal reasons" and this delayed the comeback while they redid everything for eight members. In March 2020, Bang Chan does a live where he discusses behaving appropriately, and many people take this to mean that he is specifically discussing Woojin was actually kicked out because of something Woojin did.

-- In September 2020, Woojin is accused of sexual assault, and he/his company initially handles it very dismissively. It was later proven to be false, but the initial handling of the accuse made it come across like he didn't take sexual assault allegations seriously. That, combined with him mysteriously leaving JYP, led people to call his character into question.

I agree with you that his initial leaving of JYP was very odd, but also, there was nothing to defend OR accuse him over. He just left suddenly, and everyone could see that the inopportune time negatively affected the group. So it came across that either he was leaving because he wanted to, in which case the timing was inconsiderate, or that he was kicked out because of something he did. Bang Chan's later comments seemed to indicate the latter, and I think this combined with the poor handling of the accusations, led to people not siding with him.

I kind of think of it as the same as what went down with T-ara and AOA. Even though both groups were later proved to be wronged by their accusers, part of why everything went sideways for them is that their company (T-ara) or the members (Jimin specifically) handled things so callously that it appeared they were legitimately accused of something.

Iirc his mistake was dating fan(s) and people bandwagoned on him because his reaction to the accusations was meh. Even though from everything I've seen and heart, the accusations turned out not to be true, he was already disliked at that point and people didn't care enough to correct themselves. And former fans were angry at him for some valid reasons.

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This gave war flashback to Kris leaving right before the lost planet tour. I never forgave him. Ever.

That's why I don't see the same resentment towards Luhan, for example. He also left in 2014, but at least was considerate enough to finish the promotions through the year, iirc.