Jyp has all the connections for their ggs. If they want they can make a star. Obviously the idol need their own charms too to get popular. But jyp can promote and make successful it girls if they want. I would agree that jyp has never backed up twice solo careers but suzy they did. Obviously they should as she was loved by the public and got opportunities.
It will be interesting to see who become more popular: Leeseo or Winter
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Jyp has all the connections for their ggs. If they want they can make a star. Obviously the idol need their own charms too to get popular. But jyp can promote and make successful it girls if they want. I would agree that jyp has never backed up twice solo careers but suzy they did. Obviously they should as she was loved by the public and got opportunities.
This.
If they wanted, Nayeon could have been a CF queen with Jennie and Irene (back in the day). Tzuyu and Sana also, but them being foreigners could muddy somethings. Though, they had no problems pushing Nickhun.
The fact Lia got offered that solo OST for Red Sleeve says a lot. Their idols get offers all the time, but JYPE just seems to be very selective (particularly with Twice).
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pushed how though? o__o she rlly wasn’t i don’t think anyone in aespa was pushed in savage era
popularity doesn’t depend on that anyways
taeyong seems like he’d be the most popular in NCT but when you look closely jaehyun is more popular
or in itzy, you’d think yeji would be the most popular one because of her unique looks and she does give off IT girl vibes but ryujin is the #1 internationally and yuna nationally
catchy lines, solo choreo, screen time and line distribution domination, additional elements, frequent center, characteristic outfits. that's what you call pushing. The next level era was the only one with no domination of one member so far.
I wouldn't say it's Yeji tbh because Ryujin is powerful and Yuna is charismatic. these are the two dominations in the group. Karina is such a domination in aespa. they won't do anything and go viral.
you can notice sm putting effort into Winter, but Karina still goes higher. you either get people's attention or you don't.
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catchy lines, solo choreo, screen time and line distribution domination, additional elements, frequent center, characteristic outfits. that's what you call pushing. The next level era was the only one with no domination of one member so far.
I wouldn't say it's Yeji tbh because Ryujin is powerful and Yuna is charismatic. these are the two dominations in the group. Karina is such a domination in aespa. they won't do anything and go viral.
you can notice sm putting effort into Winter, but Karina still goes higher. you either get people's attention or you don't.
She got the same lines as Ningning and Karina got the dance break, they almost have the same amount of screentime come on… as of right now no one’s getting pushed really.
Pre debut it was Karina and after BM era it was Winter. Karina had two dance opportunities with Kai and Taemin, a solo stage, that Hyundae thing… Winter got her solo stage at MAMA and a stage collab after she blew up at debut. Rn no one’s getting solo opportunities at all, they even sent Karina and Winter to the same variety show together.
Also I disagree with Karina going higher because they’re BOTH popular. Karina has the upper hand with us ifans and Winter has it in both Korea and Japan. But even so, Winter doesn’t fall short internationally and neither does Karina in Korea. They’re literally both successful.
Winter constantly has the most viewed fancam and went viral countless times, if that’s not catching attention idk what it is.
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This.
If they wanted, Nayeon could have been a CF queen with Jennie and Irene (back in the day). Tzuyu and Sana also, but them being foreigners could muddy somethings. Though, they had no problems pushing Nickhun.
The fact Lia got offered that solo OST for Red Sleeve says a lot. Their idols get offers all the time, but JYPE just seems to be very selective (particularly with Twice).
Tzuyu especially was huge when Twice debuted
If they wanted her to be the next Suzy they definitely could’ve made her it because she was insanely popular
I feel like they don’t know a middle ground tho… they went all out with Suzy, messed up and now they don’t even do the bare minimum to Twice solo wise
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Wasn't Karina heavily pushed at debut but rather everyone noticed winter. I remember winter being heavily praised at debut compared to Karina.
I'm sick. Karina appeared in MV for 2 seconds (2019) and had a collab with Kai (2020 before debut).
Winter had a solo stage, sang at SM Concert and appeared in MV Kangta.
Karina in bm didn't get any catchy lines, sm only used her face to draw attention to the rookie group. she is face of the group or something.
Forever - Winter era.
Next Level - NingNing era
Savage - Winter era
Karina without the crown scene is 3 in screen time distribution from all tracks and 3/4 in the distribution line. She had no special treatment, no special outfits, and was never considered a favorite. Idk guys where do you get your ideas from.
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Tzuyu especially was huge when Twice debuted
If they wanted her to be the next Suzy they definitely could’ve made her it because she was insanely popular
I feel like they don’t know a middle ground tho… they went all out with Suzy, messed up and now they don’t even do the bare minimum to Twice solo wise
Tzuyu had an LG endorsement deal like 2 months after debuting. That's huge for a rookie. Of course, she had that scandal right afterward, but she was still working with LG even after that.
I think when Cheer-Up happened they decided they didn't need to promote anyone solo to push the group.
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She got the same lines as Ningning and Karina got the dance break, they almost have the same amount of screentime come on… as of right now no one’s getting pushed really.
Pre debut it was Karina and after BM era it was Winter. Karina had two dance opportunities with Kai and Taemin, a solo stage, that Hyundae thing… Winter got her solo stage at MAMA and a stage collab after she blew up at debut. Rn no one’s getting solo opportunities at all, they even sent Karina and Winter to the same variety show together.
Also I disagree with Karina going higher because they’re BOTH popular. Karina has the upper hand with us ifans and Winter has it in both Korea and Japan. But even so, Winter doesn’t fall short internationally and neither does Karina in Korea. They’re literally both successful.
Winter constantly has the most viewed fancam and went viral countless times, if that’s not catching attention idk what it is.
I'd like to show you my point of view, but I'd like to go to sleep lmao. But tbh we all know what it is like and which member dominates in all categories. Aespa could be bigger now if all members were treated well. IVE is an example of this, the debut was really fair. Sm sleeps on Giselle's rap and choreographies, that's the thing we should talk about.
But still saying Winter is a top IT girl like Karina, Yuna and Woonyoung is a bit
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I'd like to show you my point of view, but I'd like to go to sleep lmao. But tbh we all know what it is like and which member dominates in all categories. Aespa could be bigger now if all members were treated well. IVE is an example of this, the debut was really fair. Sm sleeps on Giselle's rap and choreographies, that's the thing we should talk about.
But still saying Winter is a top IT girl like Karina, Yuna and Woonyoung is a bit
now SM sleeping on members is smth I agree with
IVE was rlly very fair everyone had spotlight
with that being said … she rlly is though, the numbers don’t lie. koreans themselves say she’s rlly popular.
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Wasn't Karina heavily pushed at debut but rather everyone noticed winter. I remember winter being heavily praised at debut compared to Karina.
She had an ad with Kai, was a backup dancer in many of Taemin's performances, and her predebut photos were publicly available. Her and Ningning were the only members anyone knew about prior to debut.
IDK why that one user is getting defensive, this is natural for SM groups. SM would push Taeyong/Mark until Jaehyun surpassed both, same with Joy/Irene, etc, etc.
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She had an ad with Kai, was a backup dancer in many of Taemin's performances, and her predebut photos were publicly available. Her and Ningning were the only members anyone knew about prior to debut.
IDK why that one user is getting defensive, this is natural for SM groups. SM would push Taeyong/Mark until Jaehyun surpassed both, same with Joy/Irene, etc, etc.
SM pushed Joy?!
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Why are you so in denial
She has one of the most viewed fancams this year, multiple fancams with 1M+ views, 2 months at the top of brand reputation, and is the only 4th gen female idol to be t10 most searched female idols in Japan along with Sakura. Short hair even trended there because of her haircut. It's clear the GP loves her so IDK why you are denying it when the receipts are all over Twitter.Karina is super popular internationally anyway and is probably second only to Winter in Korea, and even then she is still pretty big there. Let's just be glad that aespa has 2 IT Girls with demand in the making because many groups struggle to even have one, let alone 2.
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