Let’s begin with the definition of “but Namjoon”
According to the Urban Dictionary, “but Namjoon” is a phrase used by k-pop stans when their faves are targeted for doing something problematic, so they try to point out something that Namjoon did years ago (that he apologized and learned from) to deflect the blame and attention.
Interesting right?
Especially considering he knows about it!
Below you will find scs of the insufferable Youtuber “ajanae” talking about Namjoon. Now, you may be wondering why she’s discussing him. Well, it was a video on Giselle's recent slip-up, and somehow she managed to make it about him!
But enough of that, let’s get into the *good* stuff. What did Namjoon do? Did he really apologize?
Let’s begin.
Not great at all.
Here’s what he had to say:
Source: Mixtape interview in 2015
Q: You shouted, “Westside Till I Die” during ‘If I Ruled The World’.
RM: That’s well… I was really wrong then. After the album came out and I listened to it, I thought “Ah...”. I think I was immersed in the emotions while recording and ended up shouting like that.
Q: What’s the specific reason why you feel you were wrong?
RM: First off, I didn’t even live in the ‘west side’… And even if that song had a G-Funk sound, what I shouted wasn’t the way to respect the west coast hip-hop musicians. I believe there are many meanings inside the words “Westside Till I Die”. Sweat, struggles, pride, etc. Isn’t it a phrase that compressed all these factors of life?
Q: Are you saying that you overlooked the weight and complex undertones that the phrase has within hip-hop?
RM: That’s right. I believe it’s different from words like “Yo!” or “Check It!”. As a result, I was thoughtless.
Q: Are you admitting it to be a mistake?
RM: Further than a mistake, it was a wrong. I have nothing to say.
Source: April Edition 2015 “Singles”- Rapmonster
RM: There are two things that Warren G told me that I will never be able to forget. The first is, hip-hop is open to any one. Despite what your race is or where you’re from, hip-hop is a type of music that is always ready to give you space for anyone who enjoys hip-hop. So, don’t restrain yourself behind any type of prejudiced thought. Defining hip-hop is the same as trying to define love. If there are 6 billion people in the world, then there are 6 billion definitions of love, and like that, each definition of hip-hop is different for each person….. Personally, hip-hop to me is the world. The culture of shooting guns and doing drugs is not the actual self of hip-hop. It’s just become a by-product that appeared around hip-hop music, it’s not the actual self of hip-hop....
Source: RM’s Hello (2017)
I never thought that my behaviors or music or words could hurt others, or cause inconvenience to others. I’ve never thought that way. As I went through the year 2016 I came to think about that. My words or behaviors, regardless of my intentions, could cause troubles or hurt others feelings. In the process, I think I need to hold responsibility for that and I need to think about such things. What I said or did would not be undone. I thought so. Then I learned how to admit my wrongdoings. It was hard to admit that I could hurt others’ feelings. It took a long time. I didn’t like to admit that I was wrong. More than admitting I was wrong, it was harder to admit that I could hurt others’ feelings. It was hard to admit because I’ve never felt that way.
In the beginning, when I was faced with such criticism, I thought like, ‘Why? I did it for a reason’. Now, as I said, I feel much better about my feelings and emotions. Now, when I hear something about me, even if it's a criticism or condemnation, I am able to think about what made them say so. ‘What did I do wrong? What I did caused others to feel uncomfortable? What made them criticize me?’ I am now able to think like that. For now, I can’t talk about what was changed in detail. Still, I may have another chance to talk about it later. Anyways, to become a better person, I need to hold responsibility for what I do. I need to change my mindset. I need to change my way of thinking if it's wrong. I learned I need to hear from many people. I mean, I came to think like that. Now when I do something, I think, ‘how would people feel about my act?’ and then I take action.
That was… a lot, right?
The argument that “there’s no apology at all” is ridiculous no matter what viewpoint you have in it. There is an apology and it exists. It is up to AA (I’m trying to find a way to say black that doesn’t come off weird, apologies if it does offend) people to forgive him. I want to make it clear that I am defending the person he IS, not the person he WAS. It’s notable that he’s never repeated his mistakes- and to lie and say that’s not indicative of anything is just disingenuous.
The point that needs to be construed and relayed to antis is that people can change, and if their logic was true, their faves are just as “bad” as he is.
So let’s get down to it, *why* is Namjoon kpop fan’s biggest scapegoat?
First let’s define scapegoat:
scape·goat
a person who is blamed for the wrongdoings, mistakes, or faults of others, especially for reasons of expediency.
After snooping around the internet, I see why people target him so easily... His apology was “vague”
In the eyes of some k-poppies, a very genuine and pretty sincere apology does not count if it is vague- which is quite interesting considering that was the only huge controversy he got into so what else could he be talking about?
Imagine I called someone a “carrot” on here years ago and the post resurfaces (let’s make-believe that carrot is a slur). I address it but I’m very vague about my apology. It’s a good apology. I genuinely won’t do it again and haven’t done it since- because I’ve grown...does me being vague about it make it any less sincere? Food for thought (literally).
Another argument is that it was not an apology at all.
So let’s define apology:
a·pol·o·gy
a regretful acknowledgment of an offense or failure.
Did he not say he had flawed ways of thinking that he acknowledged and needed to change?
To bring up a controversy directly from 2013 that most people had dropped by that point, right when they were getting famous (2017) would absolutely be stupid. I doubt the company would’ve even let him say the words “I’m sorry” or anything in depth for fear of rehashing something that could set all of their progress back, and I don’t blame them. So he did the second best thing- still admitting to his wrongs. Even if it was 4 years later it still proves my point that he’s still changed. He could’ve easily shut his mouth and not said anything at all bc no one was talking about it then- but he still felt the need to address that he knows he’s said insensitive things in the past and he’s changing.
What gets me the most is the kpoppies’ performative activism.
People’s faves are the end-all be-all. God forbid they do anything wrong, REPEATEDLY, might I add. It’s ok because they apologized that one time even though they did it again! It amazes me how people will get up onto their soapboxes and preach anti-racism when their fave is a repeat offender so they decide to deflect the blame onto Namjoon. For them, it was *never* about racism, it was always about protecting their idol. Silence for their fave but screaming for Namjoon to take accountability when he did and he made the effort to change.
If you’re going to defend someone, tooth and nail (like I’m doing right now preparing for some wretched comments), at least make sure your fave hasn’t made the same mistake over and over and over and over again.
It’s easy to deflect when you have tons of people behind you completely agreeing with you and suddenly voila! The blame is off your fave and it falls onto the shoulders of a man who, frankly, has nothing to do with your fave or their mistakes. Anger and hatred like that tend to be rooted in one thing- jealousy.
K-pop fans, a surprising amount on here (I did my research and I see you!) have this odd tendency to get in little digs at BTS. It’ll be in completely unrelated threads too, I swear to god you could make a thread about ice cream and you could have someone in there being like “I bet J-Hope doesn’t even like ice cream!!". I digress, it’s still all rooted in sick jealousy- and that’s the reason why “but namjoon!” is so incredibly prevalent.
Is it more prevalent among certain fans of certain groups? Absolutely, to the point where it’s a little shocking actually.
Will I name the groups? No I will not because this thread does not belong in the Dumpster Fire.
The people that will be attacking and angry in this thread will be doing so because Namjoon’s proof of change and better character outweighs the image of a monster (pun intended) they have of him in their minds.
Deep down in their little hearts, these people are angry because they feel robbed. When their fave loses, they feel it, and they hold onto it- and that’s part of the reason why being a k-pop fan is so much different from being a western music stan. People put so much stake into music and awards and chart placements that it feels like a personal attack when their faves lose to BTS.
(This isn’t me being “Oh BTS so superior blah blah”- this is me genuinely saying that they are just different)
So when their own faves slip up, the first thing they do is grab their pitchforks and head towards the only person they do feel comfortable attacking- Namjoon.
The rage lies in the fact that a man who made reprehensible mistakes had the ability to change who he was and blossom into one of the most successful idols in history- and some cannot handle that. I’ll still get people in this thread trying to argue up down left right that he’s still horrible- and that’s okay.
If I only lived in an idol’s past, I would be miserable too.
Hope you enjoyed
- Vi