Doesn't matter if soojin is guilty or innocent she did the right decision by leaving the group

But if she was totally innocent but left she threw away her career for nothing. That's either idiotic on her part or she was forced out which makes whiver pushed her look bad. Plus if she was genuinely sorry then there's still a chance that eventually people mightve moved on. Leaving without a definitive answer or one beyond reasonable doubt would've been a dumb decision.

What did her in was her adamant denials including saying she's so certain it's false she'll leave the group if it there's a 1 in a million chance its true. All that lying meant she had to go. It's like Bill Clinton saying in public "he did not have sexual relations with that woman".

If she had apologised to the victim instead of berating and passive aggressively threatening her to come out with her “truth” knowing that her company was suing everyone left and right for talking about her bullying. Public might have been more kinder to her. We cannot change what we did in our past, but our behaviour and actions to how we respond to that in the present can show whether we have changed or not. Unfortunately, bcos of she how responded it conveyed that she didn’t.

I'm glad she left, that's what she gets for her actions during the entire scandal and for being a bully in the past. There should be consequences if you're not genuinely sorry for how the victims are affected by your actions.

interesting perspective...at what point should one leave a group then?

is there some kind of line where if the public turns on you (even if you insist on innocence?)

Chuu from Loona also got (some???) backlash for an alleged bullying innocent...should she go as well?

so too has Lia from Itzy, Hyunjin from Stray Kids, Mingyu from Seventeen...

it's all well and good in hindsight right?

Proof that Knets don't care about the truth and as korean...boos. We need to support their opinions?

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If she had apologised to the victim instead of berating and passive aggressively threatening her to come out with her “truth” knowing that her company was suing everyone left and right for talking about her bullying. Public might have been more kinder to her. We cannot change what we did in our past, but our behaviour and actions to how we respond to that in the present can show whether we have changed or not. Unfortunately, bcos of she how responded it conveyed that she didn’t.

i have a different view to that.

If I am innocent, I should NOT be forced by the publicnto apologise for something I didnt commit in the past. Maybe it could mean the end of career for me, I still think my principle should not be twisted just to please some netizens

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i have a different view to that.

If I am innocent, I should NOT be forced by the publicnto apologise for something I didnt commit in the past. Maybe it could mean the end of career for me, I still think my principle should not be twisted just to please some netizens

Was she innocent?

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Was she innocent?

No one knows except herself and the alleged victim. Bullying case, no one will know the truth. Bystanders might not even know the whole picture. It is always A vs B

Funny how you people think she had a say in this

The whole thing looks so absurd in retrospect. The way Soojin defended herself (if she was in fact guilty), the way Cube handled the situation and bamboozled fans to believe they collected solid evidence... It feels like we've been fooled for 6 months.

If Cube had any doubts about Soojin's innocence, they should have proceeded accordingly months ago and not drag the situation for so long. The fandom is a mess and it won't improve even with an OT5 comeback around the corner.

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i have a different view to that.

If I am innocent, I should NOT be forced by the publicnto apologise for something I didnt commit in the past. Maybe it could mean the end of career for me, I still think my principle should not be twisted just to please some netizens

But if ure innocent would u go and say "if im proven to lie, i will leave". That was an arrogant stament and what a guilty would say

its not like im glad that soojin left but more line for shuhua right?

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But if ure innocent would u go and say "if im proven to lie, i will leave". That was an arrogant stament and what a guilty would say

Yes an innocent person could very well say that, no problem. A guilty one could too, but it would be a gamble, possibly unnecessary and downright foolish. Hence why the whole case looks like a big mess.

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But if ure innocent would u go and say "if im proven to lie, i will leave". That was an arrogant stament and what a guilty would say

Lol i will. Im not defending soojin in any sense cause i really dont know who is right or wrong now, but if I really didnt commit i will bet my career on it.

I mean, what's worse between losing my principles and my career. I rather lose my career than bending myself for something i didnt do

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No one knows except herself and the alleged victim. Bullying case, no one will know the truth. Bystanders might not even know the whole picture. It is always A vs B

But ppl from her sch came up with receipts thou, or am I mistaking this with someone else’s case lol. Also she is not an alleged victim, that is so disrespectful to Seo shin ae. She is a victim.

ok.. but I am out on (G)I-dle going forwards

There are plenty of K-pop groups out there that need love and support, I ain't wasting my time on them they either throw their member under the bus at the first sign of hardship or they threaten financial ruin on innocent victims in an attempt to force them into silence, there is no explanation that is going to make me stick around

I don't need (G)I-dle and I sure as hell don't need Cube entertainment

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But ppl from her sch came up with receipts thou, or am I mistaking this with someone else’s case lol.

receipts of what?

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receipts of what?

Of her bullying

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Of her bullying

I don't understand what kind of receipts you're talking about. SSA said SSJ used to throw insults at her when they passed by each other at school, in hallways and such places. So I'm not sure what kind of receipts she could come up with.

SSA was actually barely involved in the controversy, even though the little she did weighed heavily. She never had to show evidence of anything, and never did. So you may be mistaking with someone else.