If album sales were calculated by sales divided by total releases, who would be the top groups?

well who's got the numbers?

MassiveKpopFan

Wait do you mean all album sales divided by all releases?

EXO has 7 studio albums and 1 Japanese Album.

7 Mini albums/Special albums.....

No compilation albums.

No "Best Of" albums...

So IDK, can somebody do the math....

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EXO has 7 studio albums and 1 Japanese Album.

7 Mini albums/Special albums.....

No compilation albums.

No "Best Of" albums...

So IDK, can somebody do the math....

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If they mean all released, you'd have to count repackages and foreign language releases for EXO

Someone explain this. How did selfmate steal my quote?

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Quote from MassiveKpopFan

If they mean all released, you'd have to count repackages and foreign language releases for EXO

Clearly we disagree on this subject. So let's leave it at that...

BTW, Then Japanese singles (physical) must be counted as well so thanks for the heads up

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well who's got the numbers?

MassiveKpopFan

See I've always wondered this.

OP do you want Gaon + Oricon? Or is this just for Gaon releases?

This is BTS Gaon Number

it'll be interesting to see for girl groups

Quote from gerrard174

it'll be interesting to see for girl groups

Agreed

Quote from 2techs

I don't mean to give orders or anything but Gaon + Oricon would be nice

So a Gaon average and an Oricon average? Or one combined average from both totaled together?

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Someone explain this. How did selfmate steal my quote?

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not me my friend...someone edited my quote to be your quote or something

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It's probably BTS then Seo Taiji but I could be wrong

Seo Taiji & Boys didn't have Japanese releases, so this is skewed automatically.

What?

Let me do an EXO one :-

1. MAMA - 542,723

2. XOXO - 1,328,588

3. Miracles In December - 578,715

4. Overdose - 711,027

5. EXODUS - 1,324,079

6. Sing For You - 543,331

7. EX'Act - 1,229,637

8. For Life - 445,512

9. The War - 1,699,403

10. Universe - 569,272

11. Don't Mess Up My Tempo - 1,987,127

12. Obsession - 838,814

We got 11,798,228 copies....

Now divid it by 12...

= 983,185 copies

Haven't added Japanese Singles and albums :-

Japanese Singles and albums

Love Me Right (single) - 197,008

Coming over (single) - 160,729

Countdown (Album) - 123,912

Now divide it by 3

= 160,399 copies

I'll update it after 2 months... So we can see how DFTF fits in

Quote from icyruios

I'ma stay to see how people twist numbers, add and leave out figures, to make their faves look better or make the groups they hate look worse

That's why I'm asking all these questions, because OP didn't specify.

Quote from 2techs

I didnt realize that. Kpop releases only?

This is what I propose: For this thread, do Korean releases only.

1) Repackages count separately from the original.

2) Kihno versions are combined with the original album.

3) Special additions, re-releases, foreign language releases, LPs, etc. are all counted separately as well.

Sounds agreeable to you?

What's the point of that?

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What's the point of that?

to find out if X1 is the greatest group of all time

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to find out if X1 is the greatest group of all time

I think Wanna One would be right up there with them, but I see what you did there lol

I calculated average (mean) girl group sales using data compiled by @halfdavid on Twitter. Her data set includes girl groups from 2001 to present, and is up-to-date as of the March 2021 Gaon update and the April 7 2021 Oricon update. I only included groups with over 100,000 in sales.

#01. Twice: 9,204,460 ÷ 27 = 340,906

#02. Blackpink: 2,673,673 ÷ 8 = 334,209

#03. Iz*One: 2,951,524 ÷ 9 = 327,947

#04. Irene & Seulgi: 233,162 ÷ 1 = 233,162

#05. Itzy: 532,661 ÷ 3 = 177,554

#06. Girls' Generation: 5,356,042 ÷ 31 = 172,776

#07. Big Mama: 567,521 ÷ 5 = 113,504

#08. Girls' Generation-TTS: 313,903 ÷ 3 = 104,634

#09. Kara: 3,717,781 ÷ 37 = 100,481

#10. Red Velvet: 1,597,424 ÷ 16 = 99,839

#11. I.O.I: 272,000 ÷ 3 = 90,667

#12. (G)I-dle: 603,543 ÷ 7 = 86,220

#13. Loona: 307,384 ÷ 4 = 76,846

#14. f(x): 599,806 ÷ 10 = 59,981

#15. WJSN: 636,123 ÷ 11 = 57,829

#16. 2NE1: 790,987 ÷ 14 = 56,499

#17. Mamamoo: 868,826 ÷ 16 = 54,302

#18. GFriend: 983,876 ÷ 19 = 51,783

#19. fromis_9: 196,301 ÷ 5 = 39,260

#20. SeeYa: 235,393 ÷ 6 = 39,232

#21. Apink: 1,040,079 ÷ 28 = 37,146

#22. T-ara: 1,139,140 ÷ 32 = 35,598

#23. Everglow: 136,632 ÷ 4 = 34,158

#24. Wonder Girls: 374,320 ÷ 11 = 34,029

#25. Dreamcatcher: 469,626 ÷ 15 = 31,308

#26. Lovelyz: 399,873 ÷ 13 = 30,759

#27. Oh My Girl: 385,112 ÷ 15 = 25,674

#28. Weki Meki: 163,318 ÷ 7 = 23,331

#29. AOA: 419,659 ÷ 18 = 23,314

#30. Miss A: 123,990 ÷ 7 = 17,713

#31. Jewelry: 123,108 ÷ 7 = 17,587

#32. Gugudan: 103,953 ÷ 6 = 17,326

#33. Davichi: 154,838 ÷ 9 = 17,204

#34. After School: 266,233 ÷ 16 = 16,640

#35. Gavy NJ: 113,939 ÷ 7 = 16,277

#36. Rainbow: 177,717 ÷ 11 = 16,156

#37. Girl's Day: 159,214 ÷ 10 = 15,921

#38. 4Minute: 266,708 ÷ 17 = 15,689

#39. Sistar: 149,794 ÷ 11 = 13,618

#40. EXID: 159,111 ÷ 12 = 13,259

#41. DIA: 108,371 ÷ 9 = 12,041

#42. Secret: 181,319 ÷ 16 = 11,332

#43. Brown Eyed Girls: 163,881 ÷ 16 = 10,243

#44. Momoland: 121,980 ÷ 13 = 9,383

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I'ma stay to see how people twist numbers, add and leave out figures, to make their faves look better or make the groups they hate look worse

Interesting

Quote from wsoet

I calculated average (mean) girl group sales using data compiled by @halfdavid on Twitter. Her data set includes girl groups from 2001 to present, and is up-to-date as of the March 2021 Gaon update and the April 7 2021 Oricon update. I only included groups with over 100,000 in sales.

#02. Blackpink: 2,673,673 ÷ 8 = 334,209

The fact that BP has 8 "albums", but we are still stuck with 20 songs... kkkkkkk a tragedy kkkkk

Quote from monalisalove

The fact that BP has 8 "album", but we are still stuck with 20 songs... kkkkkkk a tragedy kkkkk

8 albums = japan debut, japan compilation album, square up (kor and jap), kill this love (kor and jap), how you like that single, the album (kor)

Quote from gerrard174

8 albums = japan debut, japan compilation album, square up (kor and jap), kill this love (kor and jap), how you like that single, the album (kor)

I know, I'm not doubting. It's just that YGE really milked every possible song in the worst way for fans...

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Let me do an EXO one :-

1. MAMA - 542,723

2. XOXO - 1,328,588

3. Miracles In December - 578,715

4. Overdose - 711,027

5. EXODUS - 1,324,079

6. Sing For You - 543,331

7. EX'Act - 1,229,637

8. For Life - 445,512

9. The War - 1,699,403

10. Universe - 569,272

11. Don't Mess Up My Tempo - 1,987,127

12. Obsession - 838,814

We got 11,798,228 copies....

Now divid it by 12...

= 983,185 copies

Haven't added Japanese Singles and albums :-

Japanese Singles and albums

Love Me Right (single) - 197,008

Coming over (single) - 160,729

Countdown (Album) - 123,912

Now divide it by 3

= 160,399 copies

I'll update it after 2 months... So we can see how DFTF fits in

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Updated....

Quote from daniel-cruz

Let me do an EXO one :-

1. MAMA - 542,723

2. XOXO - 1,328,588

3. Miracles In December - 578,715

4. Overdose - 711,027

5. EXODUS - 1,324,079

6. Sing For You - 543,331

7. EX'Act - 1,229,637

8. For Life - 445,512

9. The War - 1,699,403

10. Universe - 569,272

11. Don't Mess Up My Tempo - 1,987,127

12. Obsession - 838,814

We got 11,798,228 copies....

Now divid it by 12...

= 983,185 copies

Haven't added Japanese Singles and albums :-

Japanese Singles and albums

Love Me Right (single) - 197,008

Coming over (single) - 160,729

Countdown (Album) - 123,912

Now divide it by 3

= 160,399 copies

I'll update it after 2 months... So we can see how DFTF fits in

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Repackages are separate releases. No cheating. If Gaon doesnt combine, no combining.

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I calculated average (mean) girl group sales using data compiled by @halfdavid on Twitter. Her data set includes girl groups from 2001 to present, and is up-to-date as of the March 2021 Gaon update and the April 7 2021 Oricon update. I only included groups with over 100,000 in sales.

#01. Twice: 9,204,460 ÷ 27 = 340,906

#02. Blackpink: 2,673,673 ÷ 8 = 334,209

#03. Iz*One: 2,951,524 ÷ 9 = 327,947

#04. Irene & Seulgi: 233,162 ÷ 1 = 233,162

#05. Itzy: 532,661 ÷ 3 = 177,554

#06. Girls' Generation: 5,356,042 ÷ 31 = 172,776

#07. Big Mama: 567,521 ÷ 5 = 113,504

#08. Girls' Generation-TTS: 313,903 ÷ 3 = 104,634

#09. Kara: 3,717,781 ÷ 37 = 100,481

#10. Red Velvet: 1,597,424 ÷ 16 = 99,839

#11. I.O.I: 272,000 ÷ 3 = 90,667

#12. (G)I-dle: 603,543 ÷ 7 = 86,220

#13. Loona: 307,384 ÷ 4 = 76,846

#14. f(x): 599,806 ÷ 10 = 59,981

#15. WJSN: 636,123 ÷ 11 = 57,829

#16. 2NE1: 790,987 ÷ 14 = 56,499

#17. Mamamoo: 868,826 ÷ 16 = 54,302

#18. GFriend: 983,876 ÷ 19 = 51,783

#19. fromis_9: 196,301 ÷ 5 = 39,260

#20. SeeYa: 235,393 ÷ 6 = 39,232

#21. Apink: 1,040,079 ÷ 28 = 37,146

#22. T-ara: 1,139,140 ÷ 32 = 35,598

#23. Everglow: 136,632 ÷ 4 = 34,158

#24. Wonder Girls: 374,320 ÷ 11 = 34,029

#25. Dreamcatcher: 469,626 ÷ 15 = 31,308

#26. Lovelyz: 399,873 ÷ 13 = 30,759

#27. Oh My Girl: 385,112 ÷ 15 = 25,674

#28. Weki Meki: 163,318 ÷ 7 = 23,331

#29. AOA: 419,659 ÷ 18 = 23,314

#30. Miss A: 123,990 ÷ 7 = 17,713

#31. Jewelry: 123,108 ÷ 7 = 17,587

#32. Gugudan: 103,953 ÷ 6 = 17,326

#33. Davichi: 154,838 ÷ 9 = 17,204

#34. After School: 266,233 ÷ 16 = 16,640

#35. Gavy NJ: 113,939 ÷ 7 = 16,277

#36. Rainbow: 177,717 ÷ 11 = 16,156

#37. Girl's Day: 159,214 ÷ 10 = 15,921

#38. 4Minute: 266,708 ÷ 17 = 15,689

#39. Sistar: 149,794 ÷ 11 = 13,618

#40. EXID: 159,111 ÷ 12 = 13,259

#41. DIA: 108,371 ÷ 9 = 12,041

#42. Secret: 181,319 ÷ 16 = 11,332

#43. Brown Eyed Girls: 163,881 ÷ 16 = 10,243

#44. Momoland: 121,980 ÷ 13 = 9,383

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I feel like some of these groups are drastically pull down by bad sales in japan. Cant believe Miss A and Apink are so low

Itzy is very high due to no Japanese release yet

Quote from wsoet

I calculated average (mean) girl group sales using data compiled by @halfdavid on Twitter. Her data set includes girl groups from 2001 to present, and is up-to-date as of the March 2021 Gaon update and the April 7 2021 Oricon update. I only included groups with over 100,000 in sales.

#01. Twice: 9,204,460 ÷ 27 = 340,906

#02. Blackpink: 2,673,673 ÷ 8 = 334,209

#03. Iz*One: 2,951,524 ÷ 9 = 327,947

#04. Irene & Seulgi: 233,162 ÷ 1 = 233,162

#05. Itzy: 532,661 ÷ 3 = 177,554

#06. Girls' Generation: 5,356,042 ÷ 31 = 172,776

#07. Big Mama: 567,521 ÷ 5 = 113,504

#08. Girls' Generation-TTS: 313,903 ÷ 3 = 104,634

#09. Kara: 3,717,781 ÷ 37 = 100,481

#10. Red Velvet: 1,597,424 ÷ 16 = 99,839

#11. I.O.I: 272,000 ÷ 3 = 90,667

#12. (G)I-dle: 603,543 ÷ 7 = 86,220

#13. Loona: 307,384 ÷ 4 = 76,846

#14. f(x): 599,806 ÷ 10 = 59,981

#15. WJSN: 636,123 ÷ 11 = 57,829

#16. 2NE1: 790,987 ÷ 14 = 56,499

#17. Mamamoo: 868,826 ÷ 16 = 54,302

#18. GFriend: 983,876 ÷ 19 = 51,783

#19. fromis_9: 196,301 ÷ 5 = 39,260

#20. SeeYa: 235,393 ÷ 6 = 39,232

#21. Apink: 1,040,079 ÷ 28 = 37,146

#22. T-ara: 1,139,140 ÷ 32 = 35,598

#23. Everglow: 136,632 ÷ 4 = 34,158

#24. Wonder Girls: 374,320 ÷ 11 = 34,029

#25. Dreamcatcher: 469,626 ÷ 15 = 31,308

#26. Lovelyz: 399,873 ÷ 13 = 30,759

#27. Oh My Girl: 385,112 ÷ 15 = 25,674

#28. Weki Meki: 163,318 ÷ 7 = 23,331

#29. AOA: 419,659 ÷ 18 = 23,314

#30. Miss A: 123,990 ÷ 7 = 17,713

#31. Jewelry: 123,108 ÷ 7 = 17,587

#32. Gugudan: 103,953 ÷ 6 = 17,326

#33. Davichi: 154,838 ÷ 9 = 17,204

#34. After School: 266,233 ÷ 16 = 16,640

#35. Gavy NJ: 113,939 ÷ 7 = 16,277

#36. Rainbow: 177,717 ÷ 11 = 16,156

#37. Girl's Day: 159,214 ÷ 10 = 15,921

#38. 4Minute: 266,708 ÷ 17 = 15,689

#39. Sistar: 149,794 ÷ 11 = 13,618

#40. EXID: 159,111 ÷ 12 = 13,259

#41. DIA: 108,371 ÷ 9 = 12,041

#42. Secret: 181,319 ÷ 16 = 11,332

#43. Brown Eyed Girls: 163,881 ÷ 16 = 10,243

#44. Momoland: 121,980 ÷ 13 = 9,383

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ITZY has 4 albums now.

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I know, I'm not doubting. It's just that YGE really milked every possible song in the worst way for fans...

And we have The Show Live CD (count on Hanteo)

Then a month later release The Show DVD

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Repackages are separate releases. No cheating. If Gaon doesnt combine, no combining.

And I don't really care what Gaon thinks... Got it? Now move along.