I am referring to this.
I don't usually get triggered this much by Kpopies but there are just too many toxic comments regarding any SM artist and even Seventeen. I don't care if they say they're flops, I don't keep up with charts and they know better in that BUT coming for their vocals is a joke. Anyway I wanted to make this thread as a response to the claim "They never sing live"
I don't know Seventeen so I won't be able to post their stages but I believe they are also getting misjudged because of these sheets that only represent certain performances (Carats, please posts examples if you want).
First, most SM groups' fans don't deny that their artists lip-sync sometimes.
Even the artists themselves mention it. They aren't insecure about it because they have fairly good real-live stages as well. Even LSM himself views lip-sync as a genre and has told the whole world about it so the company's artists aren't trying to fool anyone with AR but rather think there's aesthetics in dance-focused with recorded vocals (something like musical movies/Bollywood songs etc.. where the singing is clear while dancing/performing). Also for the fact, Kpop idols perform the same song many times more than regular singers so they don't need to prove it over and over. Sometimes keeping vocal's health by not singing live.
- Second, THEY DO HAVE MANY LIVE STAGES!! GREAT ONES!
The comments are dismissing their talents because of few sheets that say they lip-synced certain performances. Say these groups can't sing live and never did in their entire career?
They literally are trained for singing live while dancing/running. They are trained to sound stable Live while dancing. Something professional singers don't do around the world and don't need to do (it isn't an indicator of their good vocal technique. Stability while dancing=/=vocal technique. The best way to judge vocals is singing in a relaxed position anyway). But despite that, they do train to improve their stability while dancing besides improving their technique. Why would they do that if all their singing (especially while dancing) is a lie according to these kpopies?
e.g
Shinee mentioned how they used to make them practice like that
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Some people want to believe SM artists never sing live so badly to compensate for their own insecurities. So I am just going to post few examples of when SM artists don't lip-sync:
Their great Radio live singing
(I chose ones with instances where the members laugh or mess up lyrics like Jessica changing "boy" to "girl" by mistake, As proof that it's completely live because otherwise, some won't believe it)
https://www.youtubewatv=_
https://www.youtucom/watch?v=13KTmGARU_channel=SNSDcollection
https://youtu.?t=20
https://www.youtube.com/wat?v=M-_c
https://youtu.bet38
https://www.yo/watch?v=-QG-S89I&ab_channel=
https://www.youtube.com/watv=I6-RxuzU7f8&ab_channel=
https://youtu.be/?t=7
(if it weren't for Jaehyun's voice crack, some wouldn't believe they were singing Live here because it was so good overall, I feel bad for intentionally sharing this one because Jaehyun always kills it in this song and it's a rare occasion where his voice cracks)
https://www.yo.cwatch?v=_channel=MBCk
Good live stages with dancing
(not necessarily sharing their best lives because Kpop groups perform their songs million times so it would take me forever but I picked the first ones that came out in YouTube search and I intentionally share the ones that have moments where they hit the mic by mistake, lines are sung with off starts, or change the tone only in that specific live to prove it's live not AR)
https://youtu.be/
https://www.youtube.com/watc?v=qZqF_channel=UnknownCarrot120
https://youtbe/kSacA
https://www.youtucom/watcv=Vd-iijKKrTQ&ab_channehejsan
This one's video is a bit edited but it's clearly live anyways and it's iconic
https://youtube/pt1d?t78
https://www.youtucom/watch?vx82V-AZpw0&ab_channel=
https://yout.be/?t=58
https://yout.be/?t=17
https://wwwyoutub.com/watch?v=_channe=
https://youtbe/?t=148
Add:
this is not dancing but just saying NCT debuted sounding like this LIVE
https://www.yout.com/watch?v=l_RrGAYTj3Y&a_channeALLTHEK-JAM%ECAC%EB%8EC%BC%80%EC%9D%B4%EC%9E%BC
Singing Acapella (harmonize)
https://youtbe/TWPWsb?t=22
Singing fine even in encore stages
(it's a known fact that encore stages are live & mostly bgv free. Artists usually sound unstable due to being exhausted without the help of editing and bgv)
https://youtbe/?t=13
https://.be/?t=95
I like NCT but this song is so messy. IDK how they managed to sound good
https://yout.be/?t=60
Iconic live stages by the vocalists flexing their beautiful voices
https://youtbe/?t=43
Completely raw vocals:
She wasn't prepared but fans requested her to cover the song. No backtrack, no preparation. She even laughs, forgets lyrics, forgets the tune, etc.. yet still, sounds amazing (especially that high note wow). It's even editing/processing free because it's a fancam
https://yoube/mQh-Y_s?27
https://.be/5dK?t=85
The guy is NCT's Doyoung
https://wwwyoutub.com/watch?v=_channel=
https://youtbet=12
https://youtu.be/?t=27
same song different voice tones but both sung beautifully
https://youtb/IL?t=30
https://y.be/?t=24
https://yout67
Wendy's recent comeback singing live focus cam (without the ugly processing)
https://youtu.beQt=191
There's a lot more especially with vocalists but this was the first thing that came out for me.