Is it safe to say that IDLE is no longer part of the Top 4 girl groups of 4th Gen?

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No

They still sell very well

And even if Good thing flopped

Doesn't change the fact that they peaked at #1 or #2 with all their previous comeback since 2021

They are just in the same situation than IVE

Where their international charting is underwhelming

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And aespa

They have trash international charting too.

hmm

aespa

njz

ive

lesserafim

gidle

is idle ever included on the top 4 before ?

as always the question isn't who is top or otherwise but the factors that determine topness...

data, metrics, criteria, weighting - blah blah blah

1 flop era doesn't remove you from the top group label. If they have multiple flops, then you can say that. Are we going to ignore Minnie releasing best solo album of the year?

I believe Idle and LSF are tied when it comes to top group. I think we can confidently say NewJeans, Aespa, and IVE are above them. I am unsure if we can confidently say LSF is ahead of Idle.

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1 flop era doesn't remove you from the top group label. If they have multiple flops, then you can say that. Are we going to ignore Minnie releasing best solo album of the year?

I believe Idle and LSF are tied when it comes to top group. I think we can confidently say NewJeans, Aespa, and IVE are above them. I am unsure if we can confidently say LSF is ahead of Idle.

We cannot.

Anyone who says you can doesn't know what they're talking about.

For now yes.

Quote from SooYoung

No

They still sell very well

And even if Good thing flopped

Doesn't change the fact that they peaked at #1 or #2 with all their previous comeback since 2021

They are just in the same situation than IVE

Where their international charting is underwhelming

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Gidle had like 1B streams on Spotify last year so I don’t get how it’s underwhelming.

Gidle is still a top GG, sold 1M albums and fate is still charting so.

It's UNSAFE to say.

But yes.

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And aespa

They have trash international charting too.

Aespa probably has the best international charting among IVE, IDLE and themselves. Aespa is also the only one that managed to chart decently on Apple Music global since Whiplash. Not even LSRF able to chart

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Aespa probably has the best international charting among IVE, IDLE and themselves. Aespa is also the only one that managed to chart decently on Apple Music global since Whiplash. Not even LSRF able to chart

The best among the basement dwellers still isn't good by the standards of the residents above ground level.

I stand by what I said.

i'll take them over serra so no.

and what's up with that one ive stan getting all aggresive for a simple word "underwhelming"

like are you okay dude?

The dumbest thing people can say is i-dle is not a top group anymore because they didn't chart for the first time ever in 7 years.

i-dle is from a much smaller agency than any other TOP 4th gen girl group, yet they're in the TOP3 in every metric, except the OVERALL album sales. 3 consecutive 1M album sales, 4 consecutive PAK, and the only girl group winning the best songwriter award not once but twice, and won 6 Daesang!

aespa: 16

NJ: 11

i-dle, IVE: 6

On Spoti:

NewJeans - 6.4B

LE SSERAFIM - 4.4B

aespa - 4.18B

i-dle - 4.14B

ITZY - 3.0B

IVE - 2.8B

They're basically the streamed 4th gen girl group on Melon of all-time.

Nope, they are still in the top 4 for now. I don't see them leaving them the top 5 anyways.