Display MoreNope, they still are
1 flop era doesn't diminish their past
Like NewJeans hasn't released anything in about a year that would also mean that IDLE and NewJeans both hasn't had a Top 10 Melon hit in 2025 are we going to say NewJeans is nugu now?
Honestly it's a bit weird why IDLE isn't charting like did the name change really did all that?
Are Koreans unable to find their song?
It's crazy to go from multiple Top 10 Top 5 hits to like....nothing
I'd sacrifice Idle to call NJ nugu
Idle are together as a group still
NJZ is basically disbanded and will never return.
The choice is pretty easy
they never were solid top4? it's always been newjeans, aespa, ive and lsrfm. they've always been firmly 5th with itzy lagging behind, only occasionally jumping to 4th when the whole lsrfm coachella fiasco happened and they were doing well with their random b-side on melon. apart from that, they've never been a solid top gg and especially not now with this underperformance on all fronts.
they never were solid top4? it's always been newjeans, aespa, ive and lsrfm. they've always been firmly 5th with itzy lagging behind, only occasionally jumping to 4th when the whole lsrfm coachella fiasco happened and they were doing well with their random b-side on melon. apart from that, they've never been a solid top gg and especially not now with this underperformance on all fronts.
Actually
It was always NJ, Aespa, ive and Gidle as the top 4 undisputable GG
Gidle had for years better digital performance than Lsrf
Queencard did better than unforgiven
Tomboy did better than antifragile
And last year Fate also did better than easy
And in term of sales gidle is one of the best seller of 4th gen gg
While Lesserafim is the weakest of the top 5 in term of sales with "Crazy" and "Hot" not being able to even surpass 1M sales
The only real advantage lesserafim have on gidle is their international charting that have always been strong compare to gidle
But in term of korean charting and sales Gidle is far above LSRF
Imagine saying gidle havent been solid top 4 when they always peaked in the top1-2 for the past 3-4 years
Display MoreActually
It was always NJ, Aespa, ive and Gidle as the top 4 undisputable GG
Gidle had for years better digital performance than Lsrf
Queencard did better than unforgiven
Tomboy did better than antifragile
And last year Fate also did better than easy
And in term of sales gidle is one of the best seller of 4th gen gg
While Lesserafim is the weakest of the top 5 in term of sales with "Crazy" and "Hot" not being able to even surpass 1M sales
The only real advantage lesserafim have on gidle is their international charting that have always been strong compare to gidle
But in term of korean charting and sales Gidle is far above LSRF
Imagine saying gidle havent been solid top 4 when they always peaked in the top1-2 for the past 3-4 years
It's true that LSRFM and Idle have always battled for that 4th spot in terms of sales and charting, but one of the most important metrics is overall popularity and clout (aka who people actually talk about). lsrfm generates much more noise with their releases than idle ever does, they are much more discussed (for both good and bad reasons, mostly bad lately) in all social platforms which imo is kinda the make or break. granted this can give big4 groups an unfair advantage to start with but it's always been like that in kpop. so kudos for ive for being an outlier.
lsrfm had several oopsies in korean charting with crazy and that other song that flopped, but just look at the amount of threads just here on akp about lsrfm's latest comebacks vs i-dle's, and how much traffic a lsrfm flop/controversy makes compared to idle. imo that kinda tells u who's more popular.
lsrfm had several oopsies in korean charting with crazy and that other song that flopped, but just look at the amount of threads just here on akp about lsrfm's latest comebacks vs i-dle's, and how much traffic a lsrfm flop/controversy makes compared to idle. imo that kinda tells u who's more popular
The difference is that you're building your entire reasonment on an international forum
And like i said in my previous comment Lsrf have always been more popular internationally than Gidle
International for Gidle is the same than Korea for Lesserafim
None of them are very strong here and their performance depend on the song they release
So obviously considering that lesserafim is more popular internationally and they come from HYBE, a big 4, we'll talk more about them than gidle
But i get what you say
I just don't think that "people talking" is a great measure cuz it's too subjective
Display MoreThe difference is that you're building your entire reasonment on an international forum
And like i said in my previous comment Lsrf have always been more popular internationally than Gidle
International for Gidle is the same than Korea for Lesserafim
None of them are very strong here and their performance depend on the song they release
So obviously considering that lesserafim is more popular internationally and they come from HYBE, a big 4, we'll talk more about them than gidle
But i get what you say
I just don't think that "people talking" is a great measure cuz it's too subjective
I only used akp as an example, it's the same on reddit and twt which are much bigger platforms.
I guess the conclusion will depend on whether the conversation is about global (including korea) or mainly focused on korea popularity using global success as some sort of tiebreaker. in korea idle has a bit more edge since they have more #1s on melon chart than lsrfm. but globally I don't think there's much of a battle there.
agree, it's hard to measure - hence why I'm basing it on my impressions as someone who doesn't stan any of the groups and is only casual listener of both. it really does seem like lsrfm generates more discussion than idle. I mostly only hear about idle when it's about soyeon, her lyrics and soojin banter
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