Do forign idols have a chance as soloists in Korea?

I think they'd have more success in their home country rather than in Korea

gyopos...sure. foreigners...highly unlikely.

would rosie be considered a foreigner?

which foreign artists have actually debuted with solo songs though...

tiffany from snsd? is she a foreigner?

We will see when Lisa release her solo song

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would rosie be considered a foreigner?

which foreign artists have actually debuted with solo songs though...

tiffany from snsd? is she a foreigner?

they are gyopos

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they are gyopos

sorry i'm not familiar with that term... like ethnically korea?

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Ethnic Koreans who were raised outside of Korea. See also: Wendy, Jessi.

thank you my friend you seem to be always there answering my random questions lol

so mixed race idols like somi wouldn't qualify...

what about someone like lia who studied a bit but is still pretty korean

The big problem with Twice is that Japan could be just as profitable as Korea right now for J-Line if they want to be soloists. Tzuyu though, she would be interesting.

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You are right should’ve clarified this. Idols who are not ethnically korean, as we’ve seen foreign Koreans succeed like Tiffany and jessica and rosé.

I think amber from f(x) and fei from miss a debuted as solo. Don’t follow bgs so idk about them

and where they successful? (I don't know much about the second generation)

but sorn just released something and she is 100% thai but it was an all english song but i don't think it was that successful even though i really liked it

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If I remember correctly amber did well I think she went top10. It was after her guesting on real men the variety show and she got popular with the gp, but I don’t think she released another song not sure. Fei wasn’t successful I think.

Yeah Sorn song is really nice I liked it too. I’m focusing more here on big3 groups since they have a solid exposure throughout their career.

well of the big3 i can only comment on those within my purview being the 4 foreign members of twice and Lisa right? so that's five members of the third generation and from the 4th we only have giselle and NN from Aespa who are big3...

i guess it depends on the popularity of the idol in question - the more popular the idol the greater the chance of success correct?

There was Henry and Amber but they weren’t treated very well by SM, and didn’t get enough recognition.

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There was Henry and Amber but they weren’t treated very well by SM, and didn’t get enough recognition.

Henry got more recognition in South-Korea as a comedian rather than as an artist, it's pretty sad. But I think that he is doing quite good actually, his last mini-album last year sold around 65k that's great enough for a foreigner soloist I would say. His songs "Trap" and OST "It's You" were pretty popular when they were released, "It's You" was the most streamed OST in 2018 and 2019 on Spotify but it was more internationaly than domesticly.

Very possible. As long as they have built a sizable fanbase as a group with some good reputation in Korea.

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Henry got more recognition in South-Korea as a comedian rather than as an artist, it's pretty sad. But I think that he is doing quite good actually, his last mini-album last year sold around 65k that's great enough for a foreigner soloist I would say. His songs "Trap" and OST "It's You" were pretty popular when they were released, "It's You" was the most streamed OST in 2018 and 2019 on Spotify but it was more international than domesticly.

Well with the talent he has, he should’ve done better with his music. I didn’t like the way SM failed to recognise him and he was disenchanted with it all and moved on. He also did well with SJM.

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Well with the talent he has, he should’ve done better with his music. I didn’t like the way SM failed to recognise him and he was disenchanted with it all and moved on. He also did well with SJM.

Agree with this, even Taemin said that it was a shame that he didn't had more recognition with his music, it's even more a shame that he was one of the most talented idol SM ever had. He honestly had no reason to stay with them after the way they managed his career.

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would rosie be considered a foreigner?

which foreign artists have actually debuted with solo songs though...

tiffany from snsd? is she a foreigner?

Yes, Rosè is considered a foreign.

I've seen plenty of times koreans calling her "foreign".

If they are asian (Japanese/Chinese/Thai/Korean-grown-born-in-foreign-country ) and if they have been in popular kpop group

yes

they have more than a chance, they will mostly do good, not as good as a korean, but still they will do good.

In YG ✓

In JYP X

No

Henry is the only prominent foreign soloist in Korea.

He does a lot of Korean TV that I see no other foreign independent doing:

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Henry is the only prominent foreign soloist in Korea.

He does a lot of Korean TV that I see no other foreign independent doing:

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Amber did Henry dirty in Happy together, very funny.

Depends on the idol imo.

It could be conceivable with some of the NCT members who are fluent in Korean and been good on different variety and TV shows.

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Yes definitely. But also how the public sees them? Like yoona and Suzy didn’t do as well on the charts compared to how popular they are.

Another thing is that twice foreign line and Lisa have a regular idol image and not going for the clueless foreigner persona ( I feel like amber and Henry posted here in the thread, went for that and got a push from variety first). So it will be interesting how the girls do

I wasn't aware of how well Yoona and Suzy did but good to know...

sorry which idol has a clueless foreigner persona???? Amber and Henry???? wasn't aware of that (again I personally don't have much knowledge of 2nd gen so you might be correct)

Unless you’re of Korean ethnicity I feel like foreign idols don’t try to become popular in Korea and rather not.

Kpop is merely a stepping stone for them to find success in their own countries

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gyopos...sure. foreigners...highly unlikely.

How many generations outside Korea would someone no longer be gyopo and be considered foreign? Do mixed idols have the same chance as gyopos? Or is it complicated and depends on the circumstances?

I'm not sure if my current ult is mixed or gyopo.