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    4 teens were charged for an anti-Asian attack on a Philadelphia train
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    4 teens were charged for an anti-Asian attack on a Philadelphia train


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    “Shocking video shows a group of female youths, one in a hijab, brutally beating two passive Asian people on a SEPTA train in Philadelphia on Wednesday near…
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    Shocking video shows a group of female youths, one in a hijab, brutally beating two passive Asian people on a SEPTA train in Philadelphia on Wednesday near Erie Station.

    It's a moot point now but ...


    The Chinese people who like KPOP both fans and idols are not doing something that their government likes. So for KNetz to attack these people would be doing a favor for their government.


    The CCP calls KPOP effeminate and degenerate and wants to cripple not only KPOP in China but all idol culture there (they effectively canceled all idol shows including the extremely popular PD101 knock-offs.)


    So how is it better for Koreans to push away the Chinese who like their music and pop culture against the advice of their government?


    Anyways, as I said the point is moot. The government there is in the process of completely erasing idols, KPOP and otherwise, for "corrupting" their youth and replacing it with war films that top their (and global) box offices.


    I hardly think that leaving Chinese young people to feed themselves only on nationalistic "Wolf Warrior" movies would be that much better for Koreans or anyone else than having a few Chinese KPOP idols attract fans in China.

    China wasn't that rich and powerful. Zhoumi, Hangeng, Cao Lu, Victoria, Amber and Fei didn't have to swear their allegiance to the CCP and agrees on every atrocities they do. Could say Jackson, Kyulkung, Tao, Luhan and Kris that were from 3rd gen were lucky in the beginning.


    I don't think there was a time in our living memory that China wasn't powerful. There would never have been Chinese idols in KPOP if it weren't.


    All Chinese idols from every generation in KPOP had to support China if they want a career at home. The only difference was both Korea and the CCP looked the other way before THAAD.


    Now, they both hate Chinese idols in KPOP. China's rulers see idol culture as effeminate, degenerate and corrupting to its youth and are actively killing it off. Idols are an evolutionary dead end in C-Ent.


    We'll be reminiscing about Chinese idols in KPOP like we do about dinosaurs around five years from now.


    Hopefully the Korean agencies will expand from Chinese (and Japanese) foreigners when the Chinese pipeline dries up.

    Rubia is the best song of the series imo.


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    Beautiful! I really them all. The art direction and editing on their music video (cut scenes?) are fantastic!

    C-Ent will be all movies with CPOP as nothing but a supporting art form mainly for OSTs.


    Really sad when the Chinese Produce shows (YWY and Chuang) were among the highest ranked series in China and, IMO, had hit new heights in pan-Asia groups with INTO1 (three Japanese and two Thais.) All gone.


    I only hope they produce more films like "Better Days" and "Hi Mom" instead of just war movies:

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    My main bias for YWY2, Kiki, made it to the debut squad, The9. I liked a lot of the other girls but especially Jenny Zeng, Flora Dai and Lingzi though they didn't make. (I love the tall thin CPOP visuals like those girls -- you don't usually see such tall idols in KPOP.)


    Some of the others that I biased, like Zou Siyang and Wen Zhe, because I thought they had striking almost SEA looks.

    WHEN HANBIN debut with Tempest, I HOPE he can break the barriers!


    A few months ago I was happy that Hanbin went to Yuehua because that is a very good midsized company having a pretty good track record with groups UNIQ, WJSN and EverGlow. They have some prominence in the industry especially from their trainees at the Produce series.


    But that was before the Chinese government began canceling the Produce shows in China. I'm afraid that Yuehua as the most prominent Idol company would get caught up in this anti-idol crusade and there is already alot of antis in Korea to compound to this.

    My BF got me hooked on these though I can hardly actually play the game:


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    The new animation from China whether games, series or movies is pretty amazing, I love their aesthetics so much.

    BUT Byu Entertainment gave Anh a chance even though its a nugu debut...

    Yes, Ivone was signed by HR Entertainment as well. But compared to the amount of visuals we know there are in Vietnam, those signings by K-Ent agencies are extremely few and far in between. In general, Vietnamese and most SEAsians outside of a few Thais are not given a chance. And Thais only after Nickhun who pioneered the way for them.


    BTW, just ignore Bzz, he always finds his way to every Viet-related thread. He is looking for a reaction. Ignoring him is better than reacting.


    I see you have Joey Chua as your avatar. You watched YWY?

    But the people you listed are Chinese from Hong Kong, also the vietnamese idols that debuted so far don't the Korean beauty standards , Vietnamese needs someone like Nichkhun to break the curse for them his different looking form the rest of k idols but he still fall ender the Korean beauty standards

    I listed those as examples of the southern Chinese types in KPOP.


    That type of visual is seen in many Vietnamese including those in the Kinh (Vietnamese majority) or Hoa (Vietnamese ethnic minority of Chinese descent.)


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    Let me be honest the reason these japanese and Chinese idols were able to make an entrance to the Korean entrainment is thanks to their visuals all this idols have visuals that Korean love and they blend well with the rest of the group


    A lot of Vietnamese are practically indistinguishable from southern Chinese (Xuan Yi, Jackson, Vivi, Cheng Xiao, Elkie) people just don't know or just never given them a chance.

    She is also the only woman to do a spacewalk in an Asian mission. She spent 6 hours working outside the Chinese space station.


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    I think in China they banned it because they didn't want the artists to be too famous. and they want music listeners to listen to their own music


    All idol music like UNINE comes from China's private sector. The Chinese government is hostile to it because they have a medieval notion that it "corrupts" their youth.


    China does everything to cripple its pop culture from challenging Hallyu because those geriatrics in their leadership think China would end up with a declining population like Korea if they did.


    All they want these days are war movies and historical/fantasy dramas full of swords. And even here, they are banning anything to do with BL which dramas like "The Untamed" used to attract women viewers across Asia.


    China is going back to the conservative 1950s. It is a shame too because I thought Chuang 2021 and the resulting INTO1 group were best pan-Asian group we ever had. Better than anything out of KPOP. Now China is turning its back on idol pop.

    What will happen to the AKB48 groups in China? Will they be affected by CCP clampdown?

    Yeah on Hanbin, I agree. He should have stayed, but Belift didn't have any concrete plans for him so. I think he will debut with Tempest, so he will have some success with the group.


    I like SNH48 a lot but it feels like a time-bomb with them too because their fanclubs are raising millions during elections and it feels like any time the CCP can come down and close everything. Too much money always draw attention from the officials. All it takes is a scandal. The CCP doesn't care if they close down whole industries costing everyone millions if they think it is a moral thing. It's like a fucking medieval crusade with them because idols along with computer games and BL are contributing to the "corruption" of their youth.


    I hope Yuehua can debut Tempest and Hanbin. But who knows? I don't think there is really any encouragement from either China or Korea for them to go forward.

    Shame. I do believe still we will see pop tunes than just ballad music, but maybe they will like you said, going from second class to third class(drifting between nugu and mid-tier). The CCP hasn't banned anybody wanting to make a group or be a pop singer though.

    They haven't banned any particular person or group but banning YWY and Chuang is a huge deal. Remember, those shows dominated public attention when they were on. The money from endorsement was huge. Tens of thousands of kids had started to look at pop music as a viable dream.


    Just like that, everything was cut off. You are talking about millions of dollars going up in smoke from the producers, sponsors and endorsements. No one would put money in this industry for a long time because there always a sword hanging over it.


    Idol pop had always operated on the margins in China even when there were big budgets involved from Tencent and Iqiyi. It was risky because there was little support until the Produce Shows. Koreans and a lot of IFans hated the Chinese shows because 1) they were Chinese and 2) they thought the CCP supported the shows but the Chinese communists actually hated these shows and idol pop in general because of the Korean and other outside influence.


    So just when the YWY and Chuang franchises started to take off globally, the CCP killed everything. It is obvious now that they don't care about the money or soft power from idol pop. They simply hate idol pop because they think it corrupts their youth. To them they think it is an archaic moral and civilizational issue.


    So it is a dead end now because companies, parents and the young people in China will see it as a risky and losing proposition. You will see less and less idols in China and definitely less Chinese idols in Korea.


    Yuehua, especially is trapped between a rock and a hard place, with hostily from both Koreans and the Chinese government and even from the Chinese general public with the scandals and tax evasion charges.


    Now I wished Hanbin had stuck with Big Hit/Belift.

    So is CPOP reverting back to just ballad and OST songs? To be honest, CPOP is looking to become like what Vpop is now.

    Looks like it. Back to the future.


    Even VPOP has better chances for idols than CPOP right now.


    In China, the overwhelming money from movies and dramas had always left CPOP in second class as a supporting art form. The Produce shows allowed CPOP to take center stage and generate revenue on its own. Well that's dead now. We're back to OSTs as probably your crowning achievement as a CPOP artist.