A federal judge temporarily blocks Trump’s executive order redefining birthright citizenship

A federal judge has temporarily blocked President Donald Trump’s executive order ending the constitutional guarantee of birthright citizenship regardless of…

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"Connecticut Attorney General William Tong, for instance, a U.S. citizen by birthright and the nation’s first Chinese American elected attorney general, said the lawsuit was personal for him."

It's also personal for me, as I am also a U.S. citizen by birthright. Trump wanting to end birthright citizenship is one of the reasons why I am running for Mayor of my city this year.

If I become elected president (which I do want to be), assuming this decision takes effect, I will reverse this decision, unless some previous president has done so already.

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I agree in principle. Citizenship should not be based only on the location of birth and should have more factors.

Why do you think there should be more factors? I think if there should be more factors, then there would have to be a supplement for the 1st section of the 14th Amendment.

Quote from Popper-of-Ks

Doesn't matter what anyone thinks, it's unconstitutional. Just the first of many examples to come of Trump trying to make laws that are literally illegal. Lord knows there were plenty in his first term.

Do you think it'll come to pass despite its unconstitutionality?

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Never thought I'd see trumpets on AKP.

I'm one of those Republicans against Trump.

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I think if your parents are legal citizens when you're born, you should also be a legal citizen upon birth. I think if your parents are not legal citizens when you're born, you should not be a legal citizen upon birth.

That's the most logical way to do it.

My parents are not legal citizens, but I am a citizen of the United States because I was born in the United States. I can tell because I can still run for President of the United States once I'm at least 35 years old because I was born in the United States with no doubt unlike Obama who some say was born in Kenya and not Hawaii.

Also, I have the right to vote in the United States, and I even worked for the government last year at a polling station. Only US citizens have the right to vote, and also the right to work for the US government.

The president cannot repeal an amendment by himself because of separation of powers. It's an old thing invented way before our time!

https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/intro.7-2/ALDE_00000031/

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I'm happy for you, but I think the law should change

The law cannot change unless it's a country where nobody wants to be in like North Korea

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Laws change every day in every country

And every country is different.

If a law is changed in a country like the United States, it's based on legal grounds. Someone becoming a US citizen is automatic if someone is born in the United States or has at least one parent born in the United States.

If a law is changed in a country like North Korea, it's based on whatever they want to do, whenever.

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I think it should be changed, and I think it should be changed on legal grounds

If anyone wants to change the law, they have to work for the government. Or else, no law would be changed.

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What's more hilarious is that, even in conservative communities, most people are just in a "wait and see how it goes" stance. Even they know it's bullshit and are just hoping SCOTUS decides to just fold here.

Are you saying that if the president tries to take away birthright citizenship via executive order, that executive order would go directly to SCOTUS?

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No. The goal, though, is to promote an interpretation at SCOTUS.

I bet that SCOTUS' interpretation would result in a rejection, meaning that everyone born in the United States automatically has birthright citizenship regardless of anyone trying to take it away.

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That's been the mainstream interpretation for centuries. However, some conservatives have made this a0 pet argument, and now we're all supposed to pretend it's debatable.

Look at what I've got:

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I bet (and hope) the author will write another book like that after Trump leaves office in 2029. This time including the fix of a president trying to strip birthright citizenship.

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I've never heard of this.

But I'm sure there will be. A more liberal SCOTUS is this one decides to mess this up.

Mess what up? The book? Nah. Not gonna happen. The book was written by Allan Lichtman, his wife, his literary agent, his long-time editor, staff at the book publisher's company, and his research assistants.

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SCOTUS and the interpretation, I mean.

Okay thanks because you got me confused.

Quote from Popper-of-Ks

It's not being seriously contested, as those children are already afforded citizenship under the constitution and, as I've already explained, Trump lacks the support needed to cancel out that amendment with a new one. The SCROTUS won't uphold his order either if they want to keep their jobs.

It's in the White House website:

Protecting The Meaning And Value Of American Citizenship – The White House

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, it is hereby ordered: Section 1.

www.whitehouse.gov

"the privilege of United States citizenship does not automatically extend to persons born in the United States: (1) when that person’s mother was unlawfully present in the United States and the father was not a United States citizen or lawful permanent resident at the time of said person’s birth, or (2) when that person’s mother’s presence in the United States at the time of said person’s birth was lawful but temporary (such as, but not limited to, visiting the United States under the auspices of the Visa Waiver Program or visiting on a student, work, or tourist visa) and the father was not a United States citizen or lawful permanent resident at the time of said person’s birth."

It's better off said than done!

Trump birthright citizenship order dealt setback on busy day for administration

It was another busy day for President Donald Trump’s administration, as he suffered a setback in a lawsuit against his birthright citizenship executive order.

www.nbcchicago.com

"Illinois Gov. J.B. Pritzker also praised the decision, saying in a social media post Trump “doesn’t have the power to rewrite the Constitution with a simple stroke of his Sharpie.”"

"Attorneys argued that the order violated the 14th Amendment, which guarantees those born in the United States automatic citizenship. Trump is seeking to remove that guarantee from children born to parents who are in the country without authorization."

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Unconstitutional.

But of note, I am pretty sure South Korea (most of the world outside the Americas) does not have Birthright citizenship.

It is unconstitutional, and Trump cannot do it by himself.

Here's a map of birthright citizenship:

Countries with Birthright Citizenship 2024

I added a poll right now on the first page.