The longevity of this girl group is INSANE!

Hmm this rookie group has a great song, insane live singing and dancing, and a hit with the public already. I think they'll have a bright future ahead of them.

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NOTE: I could be wrong, but I do‍n't think "ITNW" ever topped the K-charts. It was released 17 years ago, and I didn't care about charts ba‍ck then, so excuse my ignorance.

I wouldn't say that the song was a huge hit, but it performed reasonably well. According to the Melon monthly data I previously compiled, it reached the #9 sp‍ot for September 2007.

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Hmm this rookie group has a great song, insane live singing and dancing, and a hit with the public already. I think they'll have a bright future ahead of them.

Let's hope there is no falling out between members or ego trips.

One of the best kpop songs ever produced!

It's mostly good because it's a debut song. Had it been a 3rd-4th single it would not be the same thing, because it's not that good. But being a debut single for a iconic group make it a bit special, even if the song is not that special.

Hm! I might see if it fits into my looping playlist!

yep.... Nations' Girl Group

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Yeah, you got this all wrong. It wasn't a massive hit when they debuted, SNSD wasn't even a big group at all, at their first concert they got a Black Ocean. This song became a massive hit over the years, and not just that, it's pretty much a National Anthem, and saying this, isn't even an exaggeration.

If a song can be this important for so many people, even if they're not Kpop fans, it means it's a good song. So yeah, "ITNW" is 100% special, and meaningful. That's why people use it for protests and stuff.

If anything, SNSD's career proved that they're not a one-hit wonder group, their other songs are much bigger hits!

But wasn't the black ocean because fans of some boy groups were not happy with SNSD being close to those male idols? Id I remember well, it had nothing to do with them being popular or not.

But I do agree, I remember their debut was well received but not extremely popular. Wonder Girls were more popular at that point, I believe. Only the release of Gee blew them up.

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It was a long time ago, but I'm pretty sure those "fans" were angry, because SNSD performed before their TVXQ, I think, and they didn't want to wait and listen to a girl group. It was madness! The video is still up on YT, you can see them crying on stage.

Yes, Wonder Girls were more popular.

Nah it was 100% because of fans of TVXQ and Suju being jealous SNSD were close to their faves including starring in CFs and TV shows together which led to rumors of them dating. The hate was already huge online with mutiple sites being anti SNSD and this carried onto real life.

The best part is in 2013 SNSD did dream concert and got the entire stadium full of fans of other groups holding up their light sticks singing along to their songs word for word. It was so loud the broadcast version used their normal cd songs instead of live audio of the event.

#384 ?

We have a different view of what insane is.

Put it in the top 20 at least to be called insane.

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That too, but at the concert, they did it, because they performed before them. At least, that's what people said.

I'm pretty sure those idiots even chanting: "Wonder Girls!" or something like that.

I don't think that's the reason. The order for most Kpop concerts is senior idols or more popular idols sing last or close to last. SNSD going earlier would make sense because they're rookies. TVXQ would have been near the end or right at the end.

Yeah they did chant wonder girls to spite SNSD

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Yeah, you got this all wrong. It wasn't a massive hit when they debuted, SNSD wasn't even a big group at all, at their first concert they got a Black Ocean. This song became a massive hit over the years, and not just that, it's pretty much a National Anthem, and saying this, isn't even an exaggeration.

If a song can be this important for so many people, even if they're not Kpop fans, it means it's a good song. So yeah, "ITNW" is 100% special, and meaningful. That's why people use it for protests and stuff.

If anything, SNSD's career proved that they're not a one-hit wonder group, their other songs are much bigger hits!

I don't meant it was a massive hit at the debut, I meant the songing being the debut song makes it a bit special.

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It's mostly good because it's a debut song. Had it been a 3rd-4th single it would not be the same thing, because it's not that good. But being a debut single for a iconic group make it a bit special, even if the song is not that special.

That's pretty much the opposite of why it's popular now. The lyrics resonate with people who feel oppressed. Sure being SNSD's debut song helps, but it's definitely not the main reason

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