Ehhh no one cares cuz no one is listening to them live.

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i wondered why this YG stan was so loud in the comment now i understand

I'm not Yg stan. and I never will be. If you have to blame him for being a fan of the company, you can call me SM stan, but I'm not a fan of that either. But I feel sad about the situation from 3rd gen to 5th gen. At least in the past, bands would debut with a strong main vocalist and lead vocalist. Now only those who are at the level of a good sub vocalist are praised.

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I'm not Yg stan. and I never will be.

I didn't say you're an YG stan, i was talking about this :

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[+540] YG may not be at the form they used to be in the past but they consistently put out idols who can sing live. YG's training is unbelievably thorough, it's just that they lose all those talents to other companies because they keep delaying debuts. Kiss of Life's Julie is one example of YG's training.

They aren't seasoned performers, it's their first win, their nerves are probably shot to hell and probably after the past few weeks they've likely had, basically running on adrenaline and caffeine.

If their very first encore isn't amazing I don't see a HUGE problem.

It's when seasoned performers and experienced idols can't do an encore that we have problems

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ILLIT encore stage live singing skills

Video: ILLIT 'Magnetic' encore

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[+1,300] I thought Minju was the only one with her mic turned up.. her vocalization is on another level and sounds exactly like the digital song

[+822] Since when did we, the audience, have to watch these encores with anxiety.. it's not like they're expected to complete a full song on their very own, so why are they struggling..

[+540] YG may not be at the form they used to be in the past but they consistently put out idols who can sing live. YG's training is unbelievably thorough, it's just that they lose all those talents to other companies because they keep delaying debuts. Kiss of Life's Julie is one example of YG's training.

[+2,000] Wow, I want to hear Minju sing the whole song from start to finish, I love her tone

[+531] I guess there's a reason Minju has the parts that she does, she's the best singer ㅋㅋ

[+807] Weren't people saying they were all talented because they were picked out of a survival competition...

[+75] Hybe has 23 girl group members and I'm pretty sure more than half of them are tone deaf... Minju's the most stable. I assumed she was the visual but she's a great singer too.

[+695] Shi-hyuk hyung, are you going to keep humiliating us like this?????.........

[+127] Hybe has poisoned K-Pop

[+455] For a second there, I thought that Sakura had debuted for a fourth time..

[+2,800] Minju has a bright future ahead of her. Even under such tearful circumstances, her vocals held strong.. I love Yunah's tone as well.

[+224] At this point, I'm genuinely curious as to why these idols are debuting at all

[+121] As if Hybe didn't make it easy enough already by giving them an easy listening song, why can't they even sing that?

[+116] Every single Hybe girl group live has been.. ㅋㅋ

[+623] Their live skills make me step back... they are Le Sserafim's sister group indeed...

[+612] Do the Japanese just have shaky voices as default? because what's going on...

[+466] Hybe may be the hottest trend but skill-wise, SM, YG, and JYP prove to still be at the top...

[+73] Moka is continuing the trend of bad Japanese singers of Momo and Sakura ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

[+856] Wow Moka is... Sakura-tier

[+125] Feels like I'm watching a Le Sserafim encore...

[+181] This group has two Sakuras...

[+356] Hybe is playing a big part in lowering the standards in K-Pop. At least the old top 3 had live skills as a basic requirement of debut. It doesn't matter how much focus you put on performance if skills don't form the base of your foundation. I don't know how these new generation of idols are even worse than the first generation of idols who are famous for having zero training experience because it wasn't a thing back then.

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[+127] Hybe has poisoned K-Pop

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It's safe to say hybe has surpassed jyp at having the worst vocal skills

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It's safe to say hybe has surpassed jyp at having the worst vocal skills

nmixx have better vocals than most sm groups so jyp has redeemed itself.

hybe on the other hand… with the amount of ppl auditioning to become hybe trainees you’d think they’d find a decent vocalist in there but 😅😅

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People should not be allowed to choose

Many fans favorites were Jiwoo and Chanelle, arguably the best singers from that show and the most stable when singing live. But obviously label didnt want to choose them

I would have maybe been into Illit with Jiwoo, Chanelle and Minju. I don't find the others girls that terrible and it's their first encore so we will see but Minju is hard-carrying here.

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nmixx have better vocals than most sm groups so jyp has redeemed itself.

hybe on the other hand… with the amount of ppl auditioning to become hybe trainees you’d think they’d find a decent vocalist in there but 😅😅

Nmixx is just one group jyp have itzy twice and skz

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NGL, i thought it was pretty bad when i saw it. Plus i didn’t find the girls particularly “easy on the eyes” if you know what i mean.

what do youu meannn i feel like theyre all pretty

i agree about jiwoo, but chanelle had pretty bad stage presence imo , and didn’t rlly fit on stage. she could sing but she would’ve not fit illit at alll

with what I'm reading here, I expected something really dreadful, but it's not nearly that bad.

They should learn how to sing in the mic though, because part of the time I couldn't even hear them.

Also, don't links arms together like that because it just isn't helpful for singing.

Most groups are pretty bad first year of the debut before getting more confedence and experiance.

NewJeans have never had a bad encore so i’m glad no one dragged them here because they aren’t directly associated with that demon bang

Anyway, they are literally kids and it’s their first encore. i’m sure they will improve. other than moka, the others weren’t bad. I think yunah and wonhee did okay too.

It was very bad in fact, justifying them with “these are children, the first encore, nerves” is simply stupid, these idols went through the show for survival, they have experience, not only of live performance, but also of performing on stage. If they don't show it, what was the point of this show anyway?