I'm stealing a stat from reddit, because I haven't learned where people get these numbers from yet.
Most hours at #1 on Melon:
Perfect Night — 673 **
Baddie — 399
**still charting at #1
BlackpinkHouse I really need to know your thoughts on this development 
Yes. Even the likes on Melon for Perfect Night surpassed Baddie, Either Way, and OTR. Baddie had great initial performance with PAKs but Perfect Night was a sleeper hit and held in for much better longevity.
Later half of the year after Super Shy and Love Lee, Perfect Night is the bigger song released. Perfect Night is more a collab single, so it's amazing that it's not even their main comeback title track.
Internationally, Perfect Night also outdoing IVE and LSRF this year releases.
Is this even a question... at all? 
The fact PN is LSR biggest hit in Korea while baddie is like their weakest song to hit 1 
was there even a debate? Perfect Night is one of the biggest songs of the year, Korea AND internationally
For real. Almost 100 million Spotify streams, and still doing 1.3 million+ streams every day
And it's just a collab song. Nobody was expecting it to become such a smash hit
This is LSRF biggest hit to date. The hype is real. Next comeback is decisive for them
Thank god Lsf finally got a hit
Display MoreI'm stealing a stat from reddit, because I haven't learned where people get these numbers from yet.
Most hours at #1 on Melon:
Perfect Night — 673 **
Baddie — 399
**still charting at #1
BlackpinkHouse I really need to know your thoughts on this development
Nice try pitting my Izone girls against each other lol.
WY and YJ are perfectly happy to welcome their BFFs Sakura and Chaewon into the top tier of Kpop. Just look at them in simpler, happier times 
for sure
the comparison should be between I AM and Perfect Night
Fearnots don't get too comfortable because this will be their first and last hit.
for sure
the comparison should be between I AM and Perfect Night
I Am is the biggest 2023 song theres zero doubt about that and anyone saying otherwise is delusional
I Am is the biggest 2023 song theres zero doubt about that and anyone saying otherwise is delusional
Biggest song released in 2023. Domestically.
Need those caveats 
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Nice try pitting my Izone girls against each other lol.
WY and YJ are perfectly happy to welcome their BFFs Sakura and Chaewon into the top tier of Kpop. Just look at them in simpler, happier times
I am glad you finally provided your insights. Does this change your allegiances or who you see as the biggest girl group in Korea?
Also, since you graced this topic with your presence, here is a gift
But if Perfect Night doesn't get dethroned soon, it might reach more hours at #1 than I Am, which would move it into the Top 5 for the year
1. Ditto
2. Love Lee
3. Queencard
4. Super Shy
5. I Am
For those who are curious
I Am is the biggest 2023 song theres zero doubt about that and anyone saying otherwise is delusional
Yep.
I AM ---> Perfect Night and kwinka ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------> Super Shy ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------> ETA
Number of hours at #1 is such a useless metric tho
It’s dependent on current competition. How’s the actual digital points
I Am is the biggest 2023 song theres zero doubt about that and anyone saying otherwise is delusional
my point exactly as perfect night is one of the biggest songs of the year too, both internationally and in korea too
It’s dependent on current competition.
the current competition for perfect night is a has-been group of hags singing about the weather
the only real threat to end their streak of days at #1 on melon daily
Display Moremy point exactly as perfect night is one of the biggest songs of the year too, both internationally and in korea too
the current competition for perfect night is a has-been group of hags singing about the weather
the only real threat to end their streak of days at #1 on melon daily
You take that back 
I Am is the biggest 2023 song theres zero doubt about that and anyone saying otherwise is delusional
exactly, apart form nwjns and jk, NO ONE else comes close lolll 
(except maybe queencard?)
Number of hours at #1 is such a useless metric tho
It’s dependent on current competition. How’s the actual digital points
It released in the same window as Baddie and Drama, so that's why I thought it was a fair competition.
Especially after Unforgiven was essentially blocked by I Am and Spicy. This is a comeback story for the ages!
It released in the same window as Baddie and Drama, so that's why I thought it was a fair competition.
Especially after Unforgiven was essentially blocked by I Am and Spicy. This is a comeback story for the ages!
But what’s the digital points tho lol.
Display MoreBiggest song released in 2023. Domestically.
Need those caveats
I am glad you finally provided your insights. Does this change your allegiances or who you see as the biggest girl group in Korea?
Also, since you graced this topic with your presence, here is a gift
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But if Perfect Night doesn't get dethroned soon, it might reach more hours at #1 than I Am, which would move it into the Top 5 for the year
1. Ditto
2. Love Lee
3. Queencard
4. Super Shy
5. I Am
For those who are curious
Look at babymon and fiftyfifty literally no one gives a shit about which song is doing well internationally if no one cares about it in south korea lmao
Display MoreBiggest song released in 2023. Domestically.
Need those caveats
I am glad you finally provided your insights. Does this change your allegiances or who you see as the biggest girl group in Korea?
Also, since you graced this topic with your presence, here is a gift
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But if Perfect Night doesn't get dethroned soon, it might reach more hours at #1 than I Am, which would move it into the Top 5 for the year
1. Ditto
2. Love Lee
3. Queencard
4. Super Shy
5. I Am
For those who are curious
Nope i still think it's Ive, NJ and Idle in that order. We all know what Ive and NJ have done, but Idle has also had three straight dominant songs and dont get talked enough, every song since Tomboy has been a multiweek #1 with PAKs.
LSRFM still has work to do to reach that top tier, although they have two unique accomplishments that could be used to justify putting them there right now - best performing GG English song ever in Korea and best charting B side since Forever Young in 2018. I would put them with Aespa as tier 1.5...
Look at babymon and fiftyfifty literally no one gives a shit about which song is doing well internationally if no one cares about it in south korea lmao
This is not true when a group has both. Why do you keep bringing this useless conversation 😭
Sure if you’re completely nugu in Korea no one will care about international charts. But when you are getting #1 or even top 5, international charting will indeed make all the difference.
Stop coping. Please. 😭
But what’s the digital points tho lol.
You're lucky I always have a tab open for this
For the month of November:
The most recent week of December:
I don't have the totals, but I wouldn't be surprised if Perfect Night has closed that small gap or surpassed Baddie by now.
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You're lucky I always have a tab open for this
For the month of November:
The most recent week of December:
I don't have the totals, but I wouldn't be surprised if Perfect Night has closed that small gap or surpassed Baddie by now.
Then ofc the answer is clear.
This is not true when a group has both. Why do you keep bringing this useless conversation 😭
Sure if you’re completely nugu in Korea no one will care about international charts. But when you are getting #1 or even top 5, international charting will indeed make all the difference.
Stop coping. Please. 😭
I literally said the same thing u said pls learn how to fucking read before replying
Look at babymon and fiftyfifty literally no one gives a shit about which song is doing well internationally if no one cares about it in south korea lmao
good thread OP, you managed to hit all the demographics in one quick hit
looks like the data has settled the debate tho
Then ofc the answer is clear.
So PN? 
I literally said the same thing u said pls learn how to fucking read before replying
no you didn’t.
Baemon and Cupid have no relevance here at all. New jeans or LSFM is not them. Groups can have both IVE simply lags greatly in one compared to these two (so does aespa actually) so yes Yama’s response of you adding a caveat for ive’s success is right.
Because they are incapable of matching say new jean’s internationally. While the gap in Korea for multiple GG’s is small.
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You're lucky I always have a tab open for this
For the month of November:
The most recent week of December:
I don't have the totals, but I wouldn't be surprised if Perfect Night has closed that small gap or surpassed Baddie by now.
PN Circle points peak was like 18.9M points while Baddie was 17M
They both have same amounts of weeks at #1 (3 each) but I'm thinking PN will gain another unless EXO gains a shit ton
So yeah the stats don't lie but it's by very little
good thread OP, you managed to hit all the demographics in one quick hit
looks like the data has settled the debate tho
The way I always try to not engage with him but op keeps pushing the right buttons every single time. Im tired 
no you didn’t.
Baemon and Cupid have no relevance here at all. New jeans or LSFM is not them. Groups can have both IVE simply lags greatly in one so yes Yama’s response of you adding a caveat for ive’s success is right.
Because they are incapable of matching say new jean’s internationally. While the gap in Korea for multiple GG’s is small.
You are aware that Ive does have the biggest peak internationally, only behind Nj, right? If it was that important you guys wouldnt even use Ive all the time as comparison, because u guys know that in South Korea, they dominate completely, both as a group and individually
Thank you for filling in the gaps of the data I provided initially.
I feel extremely validated with all the early praise I lavished on PN and how it was promoted 
You are aware that Ive does have the biggest peak internationally, only behind Nj, right? If it was that important you guys wouldnt even use Ive all the time as comparison, because u guys know that in South Korea, they dominate completely, both as a group and individually
You’re being stupid on purpose aren’t you? 😭😭😭
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