Who achieved more success in first 1.5 years of their career 73
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Newjeans (57) 78%
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Blackpink (16) 22%
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It's a bit unfair.
Today kpop acts have an easier time getting recognition in the west, so it's easier to blow up internationally.
And while BP had YouTube to help them grow, NJ has tik tok.
Comparing where Kpop was at in 2016 to where it is at today is dumb. With that said BP.
Depends how we compare. Didn't Blackpink already beat 24 hour YT records once they were less than year old group with As If it is Your Last? At 1.5 year mark they released D4 which end up becoming the most viewed kpop group song in history. It is pretty hard to compare, because Spotify have got more relevance over years, but if we compare album sales we could even say NMIXX is bigger than Blackpink during first two years.
It depends on nothing. BlackPink didn't even make the year end Gaon digital chart in 2016. We've covered this before. Even if you want to rely on the lazy "but the eras are different!!!" argument, NewJeans dominated their competition way, way more than BlackPink did in the first 1.5 years.
BlackPink debuted in August 2016. D4 released in June 2018.
That isn't 1.5 years...
I like peace
I hope none of us care enough to revisit this question in 7 years
But it's funny when people literally hope for NJ's downfall. It's not going to happen.
Girl groups of that tier don't just fall off. Like ever.
NJ is clearly the S.E.S., SNSD, Twice and BP of this generation. They will be around for a long time.
i promised myself to only vote flop for everything cept my fave. cant let myself down
I think it sucks if you can not see results without voting, because you may not have knowledge what happened 7 years ago. I did not vote at all by that reason. I let boomers decide what they think was bigger, because I was not here 7 years ago.
in polls with public participants like 70% of users just don't vote because they too scared of getting "judged"
I think it sucks if you can not see results without voting, because you may not have knowledge what happened 7 years ago. I did not vote at all by that reason. I let boomers decide what they think was bigger, because I was not here 7 years ago.
in polls with public participants like 70% of users just don't vote because they too scared of getting "judged"
It's because of that which is why I suggested the way
People won't vote because they are afraid to be judged.
But because they want to see the result, they are forced to vote.
To me like if you don't dare (or not sure how) to vote then .... too bad you won't know what the results are
Probably be on its 10th revamp and purge so we can't resurrect old threads
Display MoreIt's because of that which is why I suggested the way
People won't vote because they are afraid to be judged.
But because they want to see the result, they are forced to vote.
To me like if you don't dare (or not sure how) to vote then .... too bad you won't know what the results are
It is not about being judged but not having opinion to the subject. Not everybody follow which group have bigger numbers than others and try to compare it to completely different era, but may still be curious about the topic. I don't care at all if somebody wanna judge me. Judge all you want, if that bring you some kind of satisfaction.
Display MoreIt's because of that which is why I suggested the way
People won't vote because they are afraid to be judged.
But because they want to see the result, they are forced to vote.
To me like if you don't dare (or not sure how) to vote then .... too bad you won't know what the results are
making results participant only sounds good idea to make users vote but what about the "guests" who just lurk around here without making a account, they won't be able to seeing the results. I try to inclusive towards them :) , from my next polls I'll do your way
Those guests should just make an account
See I'm helping make this forum alive
Those guests should just make an account
See I'm helping make this forum alive
Those guests are probably just webscraping bots (and maybe godkingteshub )
How thebadguy moves on AKP in a nutshell
Those guests should just make an account
See I'm helping make this forum alive
Your efforts to make AKP great again have not gone unnoticed
Whilst Blackpink was successful at debut and released 3 hits in 1.5 years in whistle, PWF and AIIYL, they are way more known for their longetivity and all of their peak performances (korea in 2018 and 2020), (and internationally whichever is their most recent comeback) are when they are no longer rookies so this is a weird comparison.
Feels like this would've been a closer comparison had it been against Twice or IVE
Your efforts to make AKP great again have not gone unnoticed
This forum would crumble without me
This forum would crumble without me
you have the power to make polls inside threads. use it =]
you have the power to make polls inside threads. use it =]
That's a forbidden jutsu
It's only unfair in the sense that no group's first 1.5 years can hold a candle to what NewJeans have already done.
This logic is the definition of a slippery slope, my friend. Does NewJeans benefit from the growth of K-Pop in the 3rd generation? Absolutely. But the third generation benefitted greatly from the 2nd generation starting the Hallyu Wave that expanded the reach of K-Pop, and it was the 1st generation that got everything started.
If Big Bang didn't become arguably the biggest K-Pop group of their era, would YG have even survived and been able to debut 2NE1, the predecessors to BlackPink? See how much the slope slips?
The era argument holds no water, because NewJeans is so far beyond their peers, who are all competing in the same conditions as they are with nowhere near the same results.
you have the power to make polls inside threads. use it =]
See blinks don’t need to brag about rookie years only cause the pinks actually have longevity
NJ won’t even beat twice in longevity
See blinks don’t need to brag about rookie years only cause the pinks actually have longevity
NJ won’t even beat twice in longevity
I believe this also. BP has fans that are embedded and have been with them for a while. So many new groups are coming out now the young fans will just tend to hop on the popularity bandwagon and have different favorites yearly.
I'm glad we have a couple people in here to put everything in perspective about NewJeans.
They are clearly the beneficiaries of temporary fame. There are no indications whatsoever that they continue to grow their fandom exponentially. They'll have practically no fans by 2024.
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I wasn't sure if I wanted to reply given this is another baity thread but I will say this blackpink's achievements and popularity came naturally and gradually , their biggest hit came in 2018, so 2 years after their debut it wasn't overnight.
it took time for their fanbase to grow and the general public to get more interest in them, which imo translate to longitivtiy, biggest impact and hence being the biggest gg and Korean representative overseas I prefer it that way,
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