Not pushing NJ on VMAs, has Hybe / BPD ceo stopped supporting NJ? Why?

If they get nominated and lost againts fifty-fifty. It doesn't look good on them.

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These are supposed to be awards you work for, not gifts from your parent company

more than that, no one knows how the VMAs criteria actually work

Who knows what the VMAs are thinking.

Newjeans? How about Jimin who got number 1 on the hot100 and maintain in the chart more than one week? Or Suga with his sold out US tours and good charting? Jungkook may not be eligible so i give that a pass. Like which group charted better than Jimin? lol

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These are supposed to be awards you work for, not gifts from your parent company

Vmas have been always popularity awards. Not some merit based ones

I don't think HYBE is withdrawing support from NJ at all. I also think it's crazy NJ and (BTS solos) weren't nominated. However from another POV, you can't have the majority of the nominees all from one label, right? The reality is SVT and TXT were Push artists aka had an official partnership with MTV in 2022-2023. That kind of deal values into who gets nominated partially. No one knows exactly why it landed where it did but I don't think the label is deprioritizing NJ by any means.

not quite sure what is happening with them. They arent being pushed at home awards shows either. When they debuted they were winning every show (sometimes two and three times). Now they are barely winning at all.

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Also the fact that he put JG against NJ is shady too. Is he putting JG against NJ to prove her that HE is the one who made BTS. HE is the genius.

In the end he ends up depriving NJ of the ressources Hybe could have given to them.

Please stop with this stupid narrative. It doesn't even make sense. Literally everyone knows how packed BTS members schedule is. Heck, they are literally going up against Olivia and Taylor's hyped releases in the coming few months and still they won't be changing their schedules. Your faves are certainly not as relevant as them. BTS clearly don't and have never cared about who is releasing when. Because like I have told you before they have everything planned for this whole period.

VMAs is an American show. There are only 2 Kpop groups that Americans know.

Why push unknown groups to an American awards show when they'll get zero reaction from an American audience?

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What is happening between Hybe and Ador?

It feels like Hybe ceo bpd is not supporting/ pushing NJ. Why?

If he could get TXT and SVT to be at last considered for nomination, did he just do nothing for NJs? Obviously in this globale cicle he has far more connections than MHJ who has connections more in korea/ maybe asia.

He is jaleous of MHJ? Because NJ is more succesful than LSF and seems on the way to become really big like BP or BTS? Does he feel offended or even humiliated by MHJs brain, vision and impact?

Also the fact that he put JG against NJ is shady too. Is he putting JG against NJ to prove her that HE is the one who made BTS. HE is the genius.

In the end he ends up depriving NJ of the ressources Hybe could have given to them.

NJ not being nominated despite being the biggest kpop act in korea and one of the biggest worldwide could have made sense if only ADOR was backing them, but not if Hybe is behind them as well. It doesn’t make no sense at all.

But the thing is again if my THEORY is real, Hybe/BPD are not supporting NJ anymore. At last not actively.

What do you think?

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Because only SM pays for VME nominations and that's why Girls where nominated

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What is happening between Hybe and Ador?

It feels like Hybe ceo bpd is not supporting/ pushing NJ. Why?

If he could get TXT and SVT to be at last considered for nomination, did he just do nothing for NJs? Obviously in this globale cicle he has far more connections than MHJ who has connections more in korea/ maybe asia.

He is jaleous of MHJ? Because NJ is more succesful than LSF and seems on the way to become really big like BP or BTS? Does he feel offended or even humiliated by MHJs brain, vision and impact?

Also the fact that he put JK against NJ is shady too. Is he putting JG against NJ to prove her that HE is the one who made BTS. HE is the genius.

In the end he ends up depriving NJ of the ressources Hybe could have given to them.

NJ not being nominated despite being the biggest kpop act in korea and one of the biggest worldwide could have made sense if only ADOR was backing them, but not if Hybe is behind them as well. It doesn’t make no sense at all.

But the thing is again if my THEORY is real, Hybe/BPD are not supporting NJ anymore. At last not actively.

What do you think?

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When Taehyung had his album produced by MHJ, the boundary was crossed

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I'm confused. Is JG supposed to be JK?

And girl, be careful, your narrative feels like it's moving into WhyKnock territory

The same question I had

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the most strategic, deserving and public friendly group hybe could have supported in VMA is actually NJ

You can say that but most American fans are either Teen girls or Mid aged women who adore BTS and BP so other groups dont get as much exposure or play time. Its just the way it is.

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more than that, no one knows how the VMAs criteria actually work

There is no criteria. They vote for whoever they prefer. Generally they choose the ones they believe will bring more audience

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the most strategic, deserving and public friendly group hybe could have supported in VMA is actually NJ

Which public?

You know "public friendly" is Kpop fan lingo for doing well on local charts in Korea.

This isn't a thing in the US.

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Which public?

You know "public friendly" is Kpop fan lingo for doing well on local charts in Korea.

This isn't a thing in the US.

They had the best selling album on the Billboard 200 last week, beating out the soundtrack to Barbie, the biggest movie of the summer.

They have 3 songs on the Billboard Hot 100 currently. They've had 5 songs make it on the chart in the same calendar year, becoming only the fourth girl group (not just K-Pop) in history to do so.

They just performed at Lollapalooza and over 70,000 people filed in to watch their set, treating them like the headline act of the day.

Pretty sure those are all things in the US. Disputing the popularity of NewJeans in the US is so 2022, friend.

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NJ billboard and spotify results shows that they could actually go and maybe even surpass bts

If you really think that NewJeans can surpass BTS then they should not require "connections" and "resources" that you are asking for all through this thread.

BTS started attending, performing and getting nominated in the US and then other global award shows all on their own. They didn't need any connections for that. Actually all the connections that you want HYBE and Bang PD to use for your faves were made because of BTS.

NewJeans have already gotten much bigger push in the US than BTS have ever gone for. Are we really going to act like NewJeans song has been and still is ahead of Jungkook's 'Seven' in all the biggest playlists? When the latter song is possibly the biggest song released by any male artist in the world this year. Definitely much bigger than any kpop release this year (maybe you can argue with 'Cupid' but we will see)....

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Who is JG?

Jungkook, probably. You know, this BTS member whose release schedule overlaps with his own group members like Taehyung or international artists like Taylor but who should not have released Seven the same month as NewJeans when BTS members are following a tight schedule right now to be able to have their OTP7 comeback in 2025.

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They had the best selling album on the Billboard 200 last week, beating out the soundtrack to Barbie, the biggest movie of the summer.

Fandoms buy albums. The "public" does not. Physical albums have not been a thing in the US since 2004. I doubt any American at this point owns a CD player. They are digital music buyers

They have 3 songs on the Billboard Hot 100 currently. They've had 5 songs make it on the chart in the same calendar year, becoming only the fourth girl group (not just K-Pop) in history to do so.

Unless it was top 10 it doesn't matter. Do you know how many thousands of forgettable songs crack the top 100 every year? After quick search, their highest is 48?

They just performed at Lollapalooza and over 70,000 people filed in to watch their set, treating them like the headline act of the day.

Just like physical albums, any act with a fandom can organize for 1 concert, especially at a festival with lots of acts

Pretty sure those are all things in the US. Disputing the popularity of NewJeans in the US is so 2022, friend.

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Not anything against them. They are doing really well for a Kpop act. They aren't popular in the US though.

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Not anything against them. They are doing really well for a Kpop act. They aren't popular in the US though.

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NJ billboard and spotify results shows that they could actually go and maybe even surpass bts and more specifically bp in the future (at last general public wise) but WITH the right promo.

As rookies with the results they already show THEY should be heavily pushed by Hybe more than any other act they have.

Please don't set up Newjeans like this.

Learn basic kpop history, will you?

while other tokkies are trying so hard to get rid of the Hybe's payola/privilege agenda, we have op who feel entitled to it lmao