Who is the greatest non Big 4 groups ? (recent Hybe aquisition allowed except SM lol)

Kara in Japan. I think the first kpop gg to do dome concerts.

You put SEVENTEEN here despite that they are Hybe and you said "non big 4"

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You put SEVENTEEN here despite that they are Hybe and you said "non big 4"

I feel like they talking about before HYBE lol

that depends on what one means by "greatest"

seo taiji and the boys?

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nah they are excluded, you can argue they were not kpop but more like the founder

one can argue they were but that's besides the point I guess

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The good answer.

Ive

Mamamoo and Gidle in term of quality

Wannaone in term of impact

Ateez

In SK Wanna One, maybe IVE will catch them someday tho

T ara or IVE
maybe I give it to IVE

due to they have the current top IT girl of this gen
and it not even close

Kara, T-ara or IVE
maybe I give it to IVE

due to they have the current top IT girl of this gen and it not even close