kpop logic is getting weirder and weirder
now visual is talent 
they not outshining other groups in vocal, rap or dance.
Wouldn't that be the case with most groups though?
Wouldn't that be the case with most groups though?
Overall yes, popular groups tend to excel in some aspect though
I don't know about outstanding talents but they do a good job on stage unlike some other groups.
Wouldn't that be the case with most groups though?
some groups excel more in some areas than others tho
They got a jam packed schedule of doing lots of activities with lots of comebacks. That's doenst really allow them time to expand on their skill set.
they still gets the job done tho also facial expressions are quite good.
they still gets the job done tho also facial expressions are quite good.
At least we can’t say they’re lacking in some areas but yeah they aren’t excelling too. They’re just good.
they still gets the job done tho also facial expressions are quite good.
I personally find 11 and love dive performances much more engaging than after like.
Lmao
Why did you make that in anon?????
Because since they were new back in january (when I did) I was curious to know about their strengths as a group, but I wanted the subject to remain the focus, not that people thought my intention was shading them because I'm a fan of other female groups. But It didn't end that well
I even complained in the thread about the amount of drags saying I would ignore these kind of answers saying visuals/personality/wonyoung
Because since they were new back in january (when I did) I was curious to know about their strengths as a group, but I wanted the subject to remain the focus, not that people thought my intention was shading them because I'm a fan of other female groups. But It didn't end that well
I even complained in the thread about the amount of drags saying I would ignore these kind of answers saying visuals/personality/wonyoung
Yeah that always happens
People judge the intention behind the Thread based on the groups op stans
I don't know? I don't really think about kpop in that way.
To me as long as they are able to embody the group ethos and sell it on stage and in MVs etc, combined with good songs and dances and the like, charming members and visuals, etc. I don't really ever think or dwell on technical vocal ability or the like.
I don't really think about any musical group even outside kpop in terms of talent or technical prowess the way a lot of people talk about it, as something almost separate and in isolation from the rest.
To me it's just a feeling. Do they sell what they're going for. If they do. I see them as a good or great group.
And in those terms, I think IVE is a solid group. I love a couple of their songs. They have a cool feel and aesthetic. The members are charming and pretty. And they make me like them when I listen or watch their videos. They feel like their own thing and a standout of the current lineup of 4th gen groups.
They have a good balance, but yeah, I do not see anyone outstanding, maybe because I do not follow them too much.
But they do not seem to have a Eunji type vocal.
I guess Rei is a decent writer, not sure if she is a good rapper, at least it does not show in the title songs.
Wonyoung being a visual that the Korean likes is probably their biggest talent.
but kpop has never been about raw talent though?
there are people that are very very talented but don't see the light of day cos their group is nugu...
I like Ive but I do recognise there are better dancers, singers, rappers in other groups...but it doesn't make me like them any less
Again didn't claim kpop is overall about talent
The question is if they do stand out in any particular area compare to their contemporaries?
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