Do you think KPop will continue to maintain its reaches in 2024 when IU becomes the ranking act , shoving off the 4th Generation?

    In 1553, England's king Edward VI was about to die.


    The 16 years old King had no heirs and he feared when he died his Catholic older sister Mary would take over and undo everything, including the foundation of Anglicanism, with cold blood, knowing Mary was very, very, very angry about what was done to her mother and herself.


    So he summoned his distant relative Jane Grey, and named her the next Queen.


    Although Mary had a higher claim to the throne, he knew what would happen when she became the Queen, and wanted to prevent it as much as possible so he had to find someone who was at least not going to launch a bloodbath.


    Jane , at a young age, was married to Guildford Dudley, a son of the Duke of Northumberland so she would have a viable backer.


    However that actually led to disasters. The nobles feared Northumberland more than Mary, because Northumberland would use this opportunity to become the effective ruler of England and punish his many enemies.


    So the nobles organized a coup, fearing Northumberland more than Mary and probably not thinking too much about the future, and removed Queen Jane and Northumberland who were later executed.


    the Catholic Queen Mary was installed, and she paid those who put her to throne by executing them as well. Her bloody and revengeous reign was only interrupted by her own illness, and if she had been healthier and could leave children(she couldn't), Anglicanism would have been a word only found in old dictionaries. (Catholic writers tend to write sympathetic pieces about Mary, but it can't be denied that she created a huge divide in England which was only kind of pacified 200 years later when the last Catholic attempt to take over England in 1745 was stopped, after two centuries of religious and civil wars.)


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    It seems YG appears to be negative about BlackPink re-signing and will launch a final world tour to milk whatever it can from it.


    If BlackPink does not re-sign next year, as predicted by many, have you thought about who would be the ranking person in KPop?


    IU.


    https://www.allkpop.com/article/2022/04/btss-jungkook-psy-and-g-dragon-are-the-most-popular-male-soloists-in-the-2022-global-hallyu-trends-survey-by-the-korean-ministry


    01. BTS

    02. BLACKPINK

    03. IU

    04. BLACKPINK’s Lisa

    05. PSY

    06. TWICE

    07. EXO

    08. BIGBANG

    09. Girls’ Generation (SNSD)

    10. BIGBANG’s G-Dragon



    The figures speak for themselves.


    With BTS gone from competition and BP possibly going next year, and all others in the list either related to these acts or older generation acts, there is simply no one who will have the power to stop IU. Even though most of her numbers come from China, the newer acts have a lot of spaces to catch up to remove even her.


    The days I have feared for years have finally arrived.


    Next year, the afterglow of BTS will be strong so the individual members will rank high. However, BTS was always an act where the sum was more than the individuals, unlike Beatles where John Lennon and Paul McCartney were always prominent.


    The newer acts are rising,


    2024 will be a different story, and 2024 is now only 18 months away.


    Someone who never believed in KPop, and always tried to undermine it as often as she could, and someone who can't even hold a world tour is about to become Korean Pop's ranking act , if BlackPink does not re-sign next year.


    You can only imagine what will happen after that, since she will show no mercy on the 4th Generation, filial duty or not, and will begin to promote vocalists like her as much as she feels like. With she gaining an absolute power like Cho Yongpil in the 1980s, and with the burning desire to end Kpop and re-design Korean Pop according to what she feels like with the full backing of Kakao, I can only imagine the hardship coming to the 4th Gen of KPop which might be the hardest gen of all.


    The only way to avoid it is the fans of 4th Gen uniting and driving IU and her followers out of KPop, ignoring the opinion of the K-O-R-E-A-N-S who have repeatedly shown that they don't deserve KPop.


    Maybe the 5th Gen , which will come online after the vengeful Senior singer enters her late 30s (human age) , will have it better but I don't think the halcyon days enjoyed by the 3rd Gen will come back after IU takes over.


    List of leaders of Korean Pop


    Wonder Girls, 2007

    SNSD, 2009

    Psy, 2012

    Exo, 2013

    Big Bang, 2015. It was prominent for long but it reached its biggest extent in that year.

    Twice, 2016

    BTS, 2018

    BlackPink, 2022. Again it was prominent for long but it reaches its biggest extent in this year.


    and


    (if BlackPink does not re-sign in 2023) IU, 2024

    Quote from WhyKnock

    Because she will never really gain any fans outside of Asia, and her influence does drive people away from KPop

    you cant force people to care about something they dont want to care about


    it comes from within


    kpop rn is mostly about tryhard and sex appeal, IU is not what the crowd wants


    that said, those who know her all acknowledge her as a great musician and actor

    should be enough

    u r m o m g a y

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    The longest running soap opera - English Royal history, as an analogy for Kpop.


    Phew..


    Whyknock has this template stored since 2012 (?)


    1st paragraph: Historical factoid.


    2nd: Some tenouse comparison to K-pop


    Replace dates 2012 to 2022, 2014 to 2024

    Replace groups: SNSD to IVE, Bigbang to Text.


    Constant prediction: K-pop is in danger from IU.

    ~~~

    Groups come, groups go. Yet K-pop grows and IU continues unhampered.


    Whyknock sad.


    Then another group debuts or retires, whyknock gets the template out again. Updates and tries again.

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    Nation's Younger Sister

    Slyfox of K-pop

    Great Wall of Charts

    Icon among idols

    Senior Singer


    - all hail.

    If someone writes a history of KPop, IU's section would be the longest since she has been influential from 2010, and has outlived SNSD, Big Bang, EXO , BTS and probably BlackPink, and will fight people like Ive and Le Sserafim with her bare hands.


    Her opponents all made huge marks in the world culture, and she managed to outlast them all.


    Like the french impressionist painters who are usually featured (usually Manet, van Gogh(not French but worked in there) and either Monet, Degas, Renoir or Mary Cassatt(mentionable because she was an American and a woman) are mentioned) in world history books, it is likely that SNSD and BTS will be mentioned in world history books describing world culture in early 21st century, so their biggest opponent will also be probably mentioned as well.


    IU is remarkable that she enters world history books by undermining KPop for so long.


    And for the first time in her entire career, in 2024, for the lack of anyone else this influential in Korean Pop, she gets to call the shots which can only mean negative to the progress of KPop to the entire wold.

  • AllKill VIP

    Only you can can overestimate IU in one aspect and underestimate her in another, within the same statement.


    Aspect overestimated - that she can retard K-pop's expansion to the West.


    Aspect underestimated - Her impact and contributions to K-pop.

    Another epic history lesson.


    But one fact definitely stands out: IU has outlasted and outcharted the entirety of the Second Age of Kpop and most of the Third. Her list of victims has grown very large indeed.


    It could all end up on poor Wonyoungie's 17 year old shoulders to take down the Slyfox and restore Kpop to its former glory. A coup de tat from within so to speak, Ive playing the role of the Fifth Column within Kakao.

    Quote from BlackpinkHouse

    Another epic history lesson.


    But one fact definitely stands out: IU has outlasted and outcharted the entirety of the Second Age of Kpop and most of the Third. Her list of victims has grown very large indeed.


    It could all end up on poor Wonyoungie's 17 year old shoulders to take down the Slyfox and restore Kpop to its former glory. A coup de tat from within so to speak, Ive playing the role of the Fifth Column within Kakao.

    At best, Wonyoung might take Chamiseul from IU in a few years


    But otherwise ... When it comes to music records..nope

    Yes, but KPop needs a better leader who can lead it to a new renaissance. Someone who is against everything Kpop strives for will not lead it to anywhere big

    Quote from bbgc

    Only you can can overestimate IU in one aspect and underestimate her in another, within the same statement.


    Aspect overestimated - that she can retard K-pop's expansion to the West.


    Aspect underestimated - Her impact and contributions to K-pop.

    actually 2014-2016 were the 'dark ages' of KPop. 2014, following the infamous ferry incident, made Kpop depressed, and until Cheer Up KPop was heading back to the dungeon.


    So she did hinder KPop's expansion to the west.

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