Interesting opinion
they said they were scared to be honest because people flip their words and look that's exactly what happened...
Why were people calling me to see if I had heard bts broke up
so I watched the festa vid and you can tell that bts are very grateful for what armys have done for them. this level of gratitude though is verrry uncomfortable for me to watch. I mean they almost seemed scared to even express thier feelings. especially namjoon.
maybe they have imposters syndrome and can't possibly fathom that so many ppl want to support them.
idk but I wouldn't want my group to feel this way about thier own fandom
you wouldn't want your group to feel grateful to their fans? 
not to say they don't have a toxic relationship but really thats the part that stood out to you? lol
kpop fans learned a new word and ran with it...parasocial this parasocial that
ofc I do but in the vid it became uncomfortableto watch esc with rm. he kept repeating that he didn't want armys to be disappointed
ofc I do but in the vid it became uncomfortableto watch esc with rm. he kept repeating that he didn't want armys to be disappointed
yes that was sad to watch
they said they were scared to be honest because people flip their words and look that's exactly what happened...
Why were people calling me to see if I had heard bts broke up
this!
They’re were more afraid of the media twisting things like they always do. They knew army would understand them which is exactly what Namjoon expressed in his letter
Goddamn you kpop stans are so annoying when you learn a new buzzword
at this point "buzzword" has become the new buzzword 
excessive level of gratitude to the point where they hesitate to prioritize themselves and thier health = toxic yes...
hmmm 
For me it’s healthy that BTS were so open. They also said that the problem with the Kpop system is that people are expecting groups to churn out music like clockwork, and that system does not make people grow.
BTS is the only group who was brave enough to say all this (including how scared they were to disappoint fans).
You honestly think other kpop groups don’t feel this way? Being forced to churn out albums, feeling scared of disappointing fans or backlash from others, feeling burnt out?
BTS was spreading awareness about the Kpop system as a whole by using themselves as an example. Everyone should support this so others will have the courage to speak out as well. But I think with this kind of mentality where kpoppies make it personal and try to dissect everything just to degrade BTS (or ARMY), I’m sure not many will be honest now.
Display MoreFor me it’s healthy that BTS were so open. They also said that the problem with the Kpop system is that people are expecting groups to churn out music like clockwork, and that system does not make people grow.
BTS is the only group who was brave enough to say all this (including how scared they were to disappoint fans).
You honestly think other kpop groups don’t feel this way? Being forced to churn out albums, feeling scared of disappointing fans or backlash from others, feeling burnt out?
BTS was spreading awareness about the Kpop system as a whole by using themselves as an example. Everyone should support this so others will have the courage to speak out as well. But I think with this kind of mentality where kpoppies make it personal and try to dissect everything just to degrade BTS (or ARMY), I’m sure not many will be honest now.
I agree with you, but BTS isn't the first one to say it. I think some 2nd gen idols already talked about the pressure etc.
But yes, it's necessary to be said bc living like that can be extremely stressful, unhealthy and sad.
I’m glad others have spoke out as well then. I think things are a little better compared to 2nd gen time, so there’s hope for better environment in the future
Display MoreFor me it’s healthy that BTS were so open. They also said that the problem with the Kpop system is that people are expecting groups to churn out music like clockwork, and that system does not make people grow.
BTS is the only group who was brave enough to say all this (including how scared they were to disappoint fans).
You honestly think other kpop groups don’t feel this way? Being forced to churn out albums, feeling scared of disappointing fans or backlash from others, feeling burnt out?
BTS was spreading awareness about the Kpop system as a whole by using themselves as an example. Everyone should support this so others will have the courage to speak out as well. But I think with this kind of mentality where kpoppies make it personal and try to dissect everything just to degrade BTS (or ARMY), I’m sure not many will be honest now.
This.
I’m glad others have spoke out as well then. I think things are a little better compared to 2nd gen time, so there’s hope for better environment in the future
I think we still have a long way to go tbh, but well... Let's think positive!
excessive level of gratitude to the point where they hesitate to prioritize themselves and thier health = toxic yes...
their*
are you dyslexic? I find that their and thier are the most often switched ones.
What about all the idols writing endless apology letters to their fans for the smallest controversies? Is that not toxic?
I was actually asking
Not to say that a parasocial relationship doesn't exist in this case but your OP seems to project a lot of your own feelings onto the BTS members and it invalidates your point
this.
TF?
you don't know what a toxic relationship is. clearly.
and i'm not explaining psych to a dumb cunt who only logs on to spread false concern.
i've lost my patience with this forum and what people have gotten away with, so frankly i don't really care if i get a WP or a ban for saying this. because people like you are the reason why this forum has gotten so toxic, so many people have left, and so many people are just sad- this isn't a happy place because of dumbass dialogue like this.
and oh you THRIIVVEEEE off of anger. you LOVVVEEE this. i PROOOVVEEE your point.
you are the saddest example of a human being. taking a sad and sentimental situation and twisting it into something it's not. i genuinely hope something of a similar caliber happens to you, and then you feel like shit. genuinely go fuck yourself.
Yeah, a little bit of herbs
indeed. i used to be scared abt what people think on here etc whatever. but so much has happened on here where i am out of fucks to give and i can and will call people the fuck out. period. people cannot keep getting away with this abysmal behavior.
What about all the idols writing endless apology letters to their fans for the smallest controversies? Is that not toxic?
yes it all is
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