Posts by pchromo4

Quote from Icaro_Ribeiro

BTS full albums used to have 12 tracks, so sure they don't have MV to all tracks but they always released many MVs, as well as performances to side tracks.

Considering I not only own 6 BTS albums, a lighstick and actually went to their concerts I believe I'm qualified enough to discuss their career and say for sure investing on their side tracks is one of the reasons why they got so popular

Please list any BTS 12-track album where they released anywhere close to 6 MVs? Performances are not the same thing lmao, almost every popular group will perform a couple bside tracks even on music shows.

Quote from Icaro_Ribeiro

Aespa have staged releases as well

Their pre release songs don't even chart on Melon until their album is released

But sure, ASAP is charting well because Super Shy was released first lol

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I thought you said in the OP that we're all allowed our opinions lol? New Jeans rollout and promotions has felt very different than most other releases this year, and I'm saying that as a good thing. Hey, get that promo and impact. Idk why pointing out that the rollout has been more grandiose is supposedly a bad thing. Clearly it's working. Would you rather that promo doesn't work?

Quote from Icaro_Ribeiro

BTS has numerous MVs for their side tracks, they indeed released more than one MV for the same song in past. Your conclusion is baseless

They have never released an MV for every track of an album, not even close lol. Not even close to 50% of an album's tracks. You're far from an army so idk why you're talking so confidently.

Quote from bangmenah

(Example) Kakao couldnt afford to promote more than two songs for IVE? They bought SM over HYBE??? They have many more musical and production assets to pull from???

(Broad response)

Maybe the b sides arent good enough to be title tracks like this in other groups because most kpop companies have become accustomed to filling albums with fluff and photo cards to sell instead of investing in talented producers and writers

I mean, different companies have different strategies and determine what to prioritize in terms of costs. Be careful what you're implying - anyone who doesn't release an MV for every song on an album must be filled with fillers? Hybe must have no faith in all other HYBE acts including BTS then lol.

I'm someone who enjoys listening to albums through, so I've streamed the entirety of Aespa, I've, LSFM, and New Jeans albums this year. Even as someone who enjoys New Jeans music, it's weird to say only New Jeans is investing in talented producers and writers when basically all their songs this time around are geared for tiktok, heavily employ repetitive l choruses, and the entire 6-track EP is 12 minutes long.

Quote from bangmenah

It would be so stupid to push playlisting that will benefit the income of one person and one song as opposed to a group with 3.5 singles to recoup.

Plus his song has a trendy feature that they invested in.

Be real :)

There's no way a Latto feature is in any way comparable (both by cost and by impact) to a premium placement on TTH lol.

That said, I get why Hybe/Ador wants to give the extra push to New Jeans because they're still in their rapid expansion phase. I even agree it's the right move and I don't blame them at all.

It's just suspicious that JK wouldn't receive higher placement given his high profile and streams. It shows that TTH really is all about back door deals. And given JK's recent interview where he said his goal is global pop stardom, it's disappointing that Hybe isn't doing bare minimums imo.

An unfair comparison when NJ has heavily promoted every track on their album. If there wasn't a staggered release with each song getting an MV, idk if casuals would've listened to all the b-sides.

"Cool with you" > "New jeans" > "Super Shy" > "ASAP" > "Get up"/"ETA"

Overall the album is a 7/10 - it'd be a 9/10 if the songs were simply longer or less chorus-heavy.

hybe when I catch you with these hands

The song is a miss for me, but I think it sonically works in context of the album so I don't mind it when listening to the EP straight through.

The MV as an Apple cf that ends in heavily implied murder is certainly a choice lol. "Cool with you" is both the superior song and MV concept.

"Cool with you" is a BOP, so far my favorite of the 4 tracks released (will give ETA another listen once the studio version drops but I thought the live version was only ok). Right now it's looking like "Cool with you" > "New Jeans" > "Super Shy" > "ETA"

This is the right move. Main pop boy, let's goooo

New Jeans are seen as pretty hip, I have quite a few friends here who are adjacent to kpop (they've heard of the popular groups but don't actively check out kpop releases) who like NJ's music and said they'd be willing to see them live once they tour north america.

Right now NJ are still mainly in the kpop sphere but they're considered "cool" in a way that a lot of other kpop isn't.

I've been streaming all 3 versions nonstop, what the pop anthem of the summer deserves

Jungkook came to slay and he delivered

I don't know about SKZ or Dream because I don't follow them but why are SVT's sales suspicious? They have the Chinese, Japanese, and Korean fandoms/bulk orders to back up their numbers.

I was not ready for the explicit version

The song is amazing, everything I wanted for Jungkook and more. Already the pop anthem of the summer!!

Quote from K-PL

Thats irrelevant. Kakao have 1000 million USD in SM stocks and far more invested in many other companies. They would without blinking, sell 100 million USD of SM stock, and invest that instead in Starship, if Starship was a better investment. Obviously it is not.

So they'd sell their SM stock that is currently 66% of the price that they purchased it - meaning they'd take a huge loss in order to fundraise money? Wow your business sense is unparalleled.

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If they were such a great money maker, why would you sell a share?

So when Bang Sihyuk, even long before Hybe's IPO, sold 25% of his stake in Bighit to outside investors as a form of fundraising, does that mean Bighit wasn't a great money maker?

Waiting for more info but my initial understanding is that Kakao + current Starship head (who together own ~80% of Starship) plan to issue over 10% new shares as part of fundraising as well as sell around 20% of existing shares, making it a total of around 30% shares sold. Sounds like Kakao still plans on retaining over 50% stake in Starship unless my math is off.

My hot take? Kakao overspent on SM earlier this year and now they're strapped for cash. They're liquidating shares in Starship because they have some wriggle room to sell while still maintaining majority stake. Tbh unless Kakao's stake in Starship goes below 50% I don't see this as a significant move.