Posts by bzzz

Quote from BlackpinkHouse

Wait a minute. The stepfather in BP House has never been confirmed by YGE or Lisa as her stepfather?? WTF?

NGL, this whole time, i've debated about Lisa's background. She looks super mixed these days, and her insane body proportions with her long legs lend creedence to this theory. OTOH, if you look at her predebut pics, she looks full Thai. I know plastic surgery is wizardry in Korea but can they actually turn someone who is pure Thai into someone who looks mixed???

The rumor account i used to follow had yet another crazy twist to the story. The account claimed that the person in the BP House show was in fact just a stepfather, but that the actual biological father was also Swiss. Personally, i dont care whether she is full or mixed or whether the dude in BPHouse was her biological father or stepfather. None of this really impacts how i feel about Lisa, to me she is almost a PERFECT idol in every respect (voice, rapping, dancing, character and attitude, personality).

Her relatives (on mother's side) said the white man was her stepfather.

Lisa's biological father surely isn't white and Lisa doesn't look white mixed to Thai eyes.

Here is Lisa's cousin, Chantakarn Manoban, aka Phayahong. She's in the red corner (black trunks). Does she look somewhat similar to Lisa?

Quote from godkingteshub

There's a lot of diverse beauties, just google Thai model actress

some pass as East Asian others look more SEA

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Lisa’s biological father is apparently Thai not white. And she looked like any average Thai girl growing up. Most Thais are a mix of different Asian races from India, Papua New Guinea and China.

??? So, Thais have various looks and Lisa looks like an average Thai girl? Then, why "I don't think she represents Thailand in terms of visual."? Get your thought straight.

"traditional Thai beauty."? How is it? These were said to be prettiest princesses in the reign of King Rama V

Princess Abhavarnee, a niece of the king.

Princess Suthathip, the king's favorite daughter who snatched the "prettiest princess" title from Princess Abhavarnee.

How about the queen to King Rama IV who was praised for her beauty?

And, why must Thai beauty be represented by transwomen?

Quote from Ms-Not-Nice

I'm not trying to push any narrative. I googled the members and all i saw were pale skintones. Google doesn't lie!

you literally cherry picked photos with some bad lighting lol. Google told the real story, I saw more photos of them being light than dark.

Thai people do not have malay looking people unless you visit southern thailand (and even then they are a minority), so there is no way you can call that "typical". Its typical in Malaysia and Indonesia.

You want a real thai look? Go North or Northeast. Or find a Mon or Khmer looking person in the areas near Cambodia/Burma. Its clear you are very ignorant on thai culture when you mentioned Malay lmao. They barely have an influence in the country!

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Yes, you just fixed yourself in a certain narrative. Yes, Google doesn't lie but filter does. Do you know you can better see the skin tone in unfiltered video? And, a Viet user has come to affirm the SGO's girl had paler skin. Lol.

Funnily, someone believed those in the south did not have legs to travel out of the area. Lol. This is typical look in the south of Thailand.

Go North? There is the Chiangmai based CGM48. You can check it out. Members surely do not look Khmer. So, what is your real Thai look? The look like this

or like this?

Quote from Ms-Not-Nice

that guy is a semi ONE HIT WONDER that made a buzz with some Jason Mraz-lite drivel and none of it was even sung in Thai, so don't start

Don't use the word halfies as if half indian or half african even has a remote chance of making it in your country. Just say mixed white. And no, i'd rather my country treat all halfs equally than partake in some Eurocentric BS thats erasing local representation..

He is an indie artist from an underground music label. To get some music videos exceeding 10m, isn't that already a huge success for his background? And, so you just pretended Milli and Kratae did not exist? Cool!

They do. Mint Chalida is half Indian. Kob Flatboy and Rasmeekhae are half black. D. Gerrard is doing alright. Half Cuban Gina Salas is on the roll. They are also Pinky Sawika, Yardthip, Bird Wanchana and Oat Pramote who are South Asian descendants. You lie to yourself if you say the half-black is as pretty as the half-white by Asian standard.

Treat all halfies equally? Are they even halfie celeb to be treated equally in your country? If you truly see them the same, why pick on their ethnic? Why don't see them just as simply Thai citizens as non-white celebs? Why don't you judge them simply by their looks, their talents and their characters? Your racism is showing.

You need to check your kidneys, your level of saltiness is unhealthy.

Quote from Ms-Not-Nice

Da Endorphine can hardly be called someone who does pop music, much less a performer and Gam Wichayanee is mostly vocalist (not a performer) with barely any albums under her belt.

so what are you talking about?? There is still no Britney/Janet/BoA/Ayumi in the Thai world!

Thats a damn lie. Most of the popular top actors and actress are still half white even to this day. The most followed on instagram in GMMTV is Bright Vachirawit! and he gained fame last year. So its pretty much still like this.

Just take a look at the amount thats at channel 3 https://mydramalist.com/list/732B2nY3

like 30 percent of them are mixed white. Thats totally not in line with the countries racial demographics at all. and how come they never hire other asian minorities like Khmer, Burmese, Lao etc.??? Just because its not as bad as in the Philippines (which was a colonized country so of course its going to be worse there) doesn't mean there still isn't some sort of erasure thats going on in the media

are you sure about that? I check her instagram page and it does not have nearly have the same amount of followers as the Canadian miss universe winner Amanda Obdam (who didn't even bother to answer her question in Thai)

Nothing i said was ignorant. You are just salty i called out your racist society for what it was. Stop acting like what i'm saying isnt true.

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So, this is not pop music nor a performance? What is it?

Why does the Thai need BoA/Britney/Ayumi/Janet? We have Kratae. And, we have our Soyeon in the brewing.

Anticipate her to shine in next decade. She's the elder child of a famous rapper, Way.

Do you know that GMM is a TV channel of like 1 point of average rating, it's like JTBC of Thailand. Bright may be the biggest star of GMM TV but he's not half as famous as Khem Hassawee or Ken Phupoom domestically. Jaonaay also has gotten very popular with his music. Bright is not half white but quarter (a white grandparent).

I looked at the list and I counted 19 half white actors out of over 90 actors. So, it's close to 25% and not 30%.

You should first ask how many Thai kids of a Laotian/Burmese/Cambodian parent are in middle to high social class, pretty and put themselves in somewhere that a talent scouter may see, audition show, Tiktok etc. And, if you were not ignorant, you should have known that the Laotian is strongly anti-Thai and any Laotian working in Thai showbiz will be heavily flaked in Laos. Anyway, they are some actors of a SEA parent, Johnny (Filipino father), Richie (Filipino father), Tony Rakkhaen (Viet father), Esther (Malaysian father). Day of Thaitanium is a USA citizen of Burmese ethnic. Hannah of the girl group 4EVE came from Laos.

Partial white population being over-represented in showbiz in no way means Asian ethnic being erased and is still dominating the showbiz.

Being able to write in Thai fluently is not a requirement to be Thai and never will be. Anyway, Miss Obdam has gained many young supporters (so as tons of haters) due to her controversial political remarks.

You're too ignorant to realize everything you said was ignorant. Thailand surely is not free of racism yet, many Asian foreigners choose this country their home to live for lives.

Quote from nobody4444

I think that Thailand is more well known around the world than Vietnam.

If a country is more well known around the world then there might be more tourists coming to that country and so more contact with foreigners and more mixed babies.

Yes. Thailand is far more well-known than Vietnam hence more expats. Thailand has long been a popular destination to foreigners. 17th century was a vivid era with some notable foreign historical figures.

Constantin Phaulkon, the Greek chancellor

Nagamasa Yamada, the Japanese governor of Nakhon Si Thammarat

Ahmad Qomi, the Persian vice chancellor.

They were also Portuguese village, Japanese village, Chinese village, Muslim village, Dutch village and French village around the capital city. Only the Portuguese village is still survive to these days but relocated to the area centered by the Church of Santa Cruz and has lost much of its Portuguese heritage.

BEP has broken up with Stone Music hence CJ ENM. With money from Kakao M, BEP bought shares of HighUp from Stone Music.

Quote from Ms-Not-Nice

Stop lying. Bnk48 does not have dark skin member while in the viet version we see some tan skin members.

Stop being ignorant. In this video, you can notice brownish skintones of Tawarn, Namneung Jane and Mobile as opposed to 2 members of fairer skintones, Fond and Pupe.

Quote from Ms-Not-Nice

and if its a half white person aka Janine Wiggles and Tata Young.

cause they surely ain't going to pay attention to some girl with a real asian look singing in their native tai language lol. Thailand has no real BoA of their own. Sad...

Cool! Let's play oblivious that Phum Viphurit, Milli and Da Endorphine exist.

Thailand has no BoA but, you don't have to be sad for us. We don't need it. We have our own dancing queen, Kratae.

By the way, I don't think Milli and Janine have longevity. Milli has no versatility, she always raps the same style and not really is that good as vocalist nor she is self-composed. Janine has faded out from Thai interest after she moved out of the country. Rarely anyone in Thailand has any idea what she's been up to in last few years.

P.S. it sounded like someone was jealous that Thailand had abundant talented pretty halfies while her/his country didn't.

A list of random unpopular members?

Quote from strawhatcrew

i thought only kpop fan like to talk about visual, jpop fan too liek to talk about this.. im mistaken, sumimasen

How old are you? Entertainers get their looks talked about in every corners of the world.

Quote from nobody4444

There were more than 100 applicants but those 84 girls are girls that can access the second round.

The other girls have been eliminated and do not have their pictures showed.

If they were 120+ in the beginning, it's a very extremely slim possibility that no one from number 85 onward were chosen. 85 - 120 = 35 persons.

Quote from nobody4444

K-pop music videos are known for their music videos with super synchronized dance moves.

J-pop Idols have music videos with super cuteness as their speciality.

V-pop music videos signature move are dramatic music videos with a story.

But what makes T-pop different from the rest ?

Other countries, Korea included, know to make super cute music video too so, it's not J-pop specialty. Japanese specialty is natural lighting.

T-pop music videos usually have story lines. For examples

But, what the Thai wishes T-pop girl groups to go for is these such kinds of music and music videos

One with biggest number in the list is number 084 so, it was not even 100 applicants in the beginning?

These 2 are pretty.

Others range from average to ugly.

Quote from VVisual

I think it is even more likely that Lisa and Sunnee have pretty comparable income.

:-D

Quote from penguinsgg

Alot of Chinese Idols are also signed to Chinese labels who have to go on these shows. the reason why Handong went on some show in china

Is Dreamcatcher any close to I-DLE in term of income and popularity?

Quote from bartkun

this people should be popular, or at least get a rise because this music is freakin good!

Composed by : Kevin G. Cho, Heejin Song, Versachoi, Noday
Arranged by : Versachoi
Mixed by : Noday
Mastered by : Nam Woo Kwon

As you've seen from the credit. This group, similarly to NiziU, raises a question if this is T-pop. Does the group getting almost everything done in Korea by the Korean, music, music video, choreography, wardrobe & basic training, represent Thai music industry? The vision of the boss is to let Thai kids doing K-pop in Thailand. Will such move help develop Thai music industry when it contributes nothing to the development of back-end personnel?

Everything about this release looks and sounds as if something from a top mid-tier agency (bigger agencies that not in Big4) but, why may K-pop fans switch from K-pop to an identical product? Many Thai audiences ask for something looks and sounds different from K-pop beyond Thai lines.

Yet, when the group and its song are totally processed in Thailand, they will be criticisms that the group is not up to K-pop standard.

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China have 1.4b population, imagine just getting 1% of the cake.

Looking at SNH48 for reference. Everyone says they need to just hit that 1% of China and they will make bank but, the truth is the possibly is dim.

Quote from godkingteshub

One in 500 million chance someone makes it as big as Lisa. They have better luck playing the lottery. Not to mention a lot of her popularity comes from China.

Sunee doesn't have the same kind of appeal. She goes for the greasy tomboy vibe, which has a smaller audience in comparison.

Just like Lisa fans complained about Lisa discrimination and BPink fans complain about YG. Everyone knows foreigners get paid less than native Koreans.

They are making profit to their companies. That's all that matters. 99% of kpop "great songs" are unheard of or forgotten because they don't have the hype and marketing of Big 3/4s.

Those akgaes are the reason your unnies can sell hundreds of thousands of albums. You should be thanking them.

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500 million is like 7 times of Thailand's population and almost 1 forth of world population. So, no, it's much higher than that. And, 1 in 500 millions still is higher than 0. Besides, what's the likelihood of a Thai/an Asian foreigner to hit as big as Sunnee in China?

Greasy tomboy is the very appeal that shoots her up in China.

You better look into Wajijiwa's problem before commenting. Lisa was not paid performer's right fee because Federation of Korean Music Performers (FKMP) has the regulation to not pay performers from nations not collecting performer's right royalty fee for Korean performers. It was not some biased discrimination. It's said the problem had been solved with Thai music distributors started collecting performer's right fee of foreign artists thus, Thai K-pop idols had been paid by FKMP. Anyway, performer's right fee has never been a big income source to the idol. The issue on Nene is another topic based solely on the bias. For example, Nene could not be on the magazine cover because she could not speak Chinese fluently ???!

Every popular idols make profit to their companies regardless of the country they are working in. So, this is a non-sensical point. Unheard of great songs still is better than bad songs that will never be heard of the because of no hype, no grand scale marketing. Have you heard of SIS or Pam? She's also working in China as singer, a member of SIS.

Yet, akgae culture is the reason why Chinese idols rarely active as group thus lack group cohesion.

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Well C-Pop was always much bigger and a grander prize, hence why so many trained idols went back. It seems that more and more idols are gaining fame in China, and that follows the trend. Now I don't necessarily agree w this, but there's a reason why SM is so bent on China, they have a huge market.

Is it? Do you think Sunnee makes even half of Lisa's income? Lisa has endorsed AIS, the mobile phone service, so her face is everywhere and, set the record of highest ever endorsement fee for a single person. Black Pink has been plastered on Pepsi Zero as endorser. Even a kid in remote area knows Lisa, wanna be Lisa. Sunnee is the most successful Thai singer in China ever yet, she has had no Thai endorsement and not even 10% of Thai population knows her.

Nene's fans have complaint of discrimination toward the Thai member and terrible overall management of the agency, Wajijiwa.

Quote from emanresu

The threat is that if Cpop begins to build a foundation of opportunity that meets or potentially eclipses that offered by kpop. It could lead to a siphoning off of potential talent pools.

It may begin as the so called "rejects".

But it could reach a point it starts actively competing for premiere talent that otherwise might go to kpop.

The question is when it will do so. All The9 and Bon Bon Girls's releases are terribly underwhelming.

Chinese akgae culture also has to be erased for Chinese idol industry to thrive.

Quote from BlackpinkHouse

Possible. But what happens if the foreign idols are "asked" to defend and promote the CCP?

I see no problem. If American singers can support Biden, singers in China can support Xi Jinping.

Way of Thaitanium (DaboyWay), Stamp and the guitarist of ETC., Ole, are COVID infected. All got infected from performing in pub/lounge and have been quarantined in hospitals.

Terra - Not Your Toy

Louis - Next to You (Fish Upon the Sky OST.)

Aye - Far Away (Mr. Lipstick OST.)

Moving And Cut - Go to Him

Gungun ft. Kob - Revolves

Krist - Missing

Pimrypie, F.Hero, Boom Boom Cash & M-Pee - Double

The Yers - Drugs

AR3NA's mini documentary EP. 04

The chairman said he had invested 100m+ bahts into his music label.

Should K-pop be threatened that C-pop picking up its rejected trainees/applicants?

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I’m guessing the Japanese group is a gg

And the American group is a bg.

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The competition between the new bh Japanese gg and jyp NiziU will be interesting.

And yes,where will Sakura go.

HYBE Japan has announced that it is debuting a Japanese boy group whose members include eliminated Japanese contestants of i-Land.

Quote from VVisual

What would really be cool is if AKB will send girls from the overseas sister groups (SGO, MNL, BNK, JKT, etc.) to Chuang 2022 while AKB and the Japanese sisters go to Produce Japan S3 (which should be coming after two boys seasons.)

AKB can't do so. Sister groups are run separately by different companies. AKB's agency, DH, has no power to tell Yoshimoto, iAM etc. to join a survival show. Also, the right to oversea recruitment may be already given to other entities. Thai trainees on Chuang were recruited by Tencent's Thai branch, Insight Ent.