Posts by WhyKnock

Quote from chat-2

Her next movie is filmed by a director whose last film grossed 120M$ (2nd biggest gross in history of SK)

Also she is rumoured to play in Koreeda's new film. His "Shoplifters" won Palme d'Or in Festival de Cannes!

IU World Domination

Actually, the director Lee Byunghun (no relation to the actor of the same name) had directed a drama which was quietly buried, after his great success

Koreeda is not known to be a hit director. It might be acclaimed, but it is not going to be a great hit. He can't find backers in Japan anymore so he first tried France with Catherine Deneuve's help, but the result was not too great.

It is not know whether Lee Jieun will play an unwed mother there, but whyknock thinks at 28 (when the movie will be released), she will be a little bit too old for that role. It appears Bae Doona recommended Lee Jieun for that role , whatever it might be, but if I were the director, I would be using a lesser known face., instead of using a singer who is Senior enough to be a grandmother to most of the 4th gen of KPop.

Quote from whipped

Iu really is a marketing genius if you actually track her career. She started out as this indie solo artist making music akin to those arthouse films, then started to get more pop and blew up mainstream, then dabbled into acting to grow her domestic public awareness, then released more diverse music products to grow her artistry and attract listeners from a wider range of demographics, then secured hit dramas to gain a bigger international audience, then collabed with a member from the biggest boy group with the most dedicated fanbase in the world atm and gained even more fans from it.

Every move she made paid off and there was always something to gain for her benefit and her brand, literally. It’s quite incredible to watch lol

Lee Jieun knows very well about what people expect from her, although that was not always true (Eunhyuk, Zeze, etc) before.

Quote from Everythingoes8

iu knows how to play her cards. good songs + her acting career + youtube channel + collaboration with a member of the most popular group has helped her to grow her international fanbase

That is because , unlike everyone else, she is her own boss and dictates her own activities to her maximum benefit

Quote from nevermindmejin

If that’s the case then it shows that how koreans think about Nazis are different from the west. I have to admit coming from country that had been occupied by the Japanese (with many horrific acts on our people), I would not have the same knee jerk reaction like the west about this issue. If I went to a museum or somewhere with a Japanese imperial mannequin, I’d probably take pictures too. It’s history, it was horrible and you learn from that. But people moved on.

Anyway I’m happy that SouMu is trying to understand the situation. Hope they’ll release an apology soon

Since Korea had very little to do with the Nazis, some Koreans do have some kind of fetish with them, as seen in the little known girl group named Pritz .

Lee Jieun's attempt to sing a Kpop song has ended in tears

I think GFriend will quietly disband in November (when 5 of the 6 members signed - Eunha, a former Big Hit trainee, will probably re-sign).

I am kind of glad that this controversy occurred. Sowon freeloaded in GFriend for all these years. her comeuppance arrived 6 years too late.

A certain 2nd Generation Singer might want to offer a different opinion

SM was Big 3 since HOT (although at that time it was Big 2 , with DSP)

JYP began with god

YG began with 1TYM and Jinusean, although didn't hit the jackpot till BigBang

Quote from QueenMaknae27

IU's international fan base have grown since then. The consistent good music plus her hit dramas really propelled her international popularity massively. Not to mention, taeyeon is already past her prime

Lee Jieun is now trying to push herself to the overseas. She even used foreign composers, practically the first title song she ever did. Taeyeon seems to be content about what she has now

Little known fact - it was a song by LeeJuck and Kim Dongryul, a fact few people remember. Insooni actually used it without their approval

Quote from QueenMaknae27

Oh so now we're categorizing "kpop" by yt views. I thought views are irrelevant

I have always considered views to be important since it is a barometer about how popular a song is outside of korea.

I wrote this back in 2015

https://onehallyu.com/topic/21…=comments#comment-9770810

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However, all of them were defeated by one single person who does not have a video of 30 million views to claim.

IU's most watched video has 27 million views after 1 year and 3 months - and it is not even something which only features herself. SNSD's Party reached 30 million after one month.

SNSD's Gee(2009) has 144m views and counting - IU's Good Day(2010), which might be more enduring in Korea than Gee, only has 1/10th of that views and will probably never crack 20 mil.

SNSD's The Boys has 122m views plus 12m in the evo version, making the total 'official' view at 134m - IU's You & I, which decisively defeated that song, has 11m views in the original version and 7m views in the 'performance' version, making the total views at 18m.

So, the world cared about 7 times more about SNSD than IU, and probably more since IU's views are very highly skewed toward Korea itself.

But the sad truth that, IU, who has about 60,000 hard-core fans who will buy her disks (and most of them are in Korea) has reached the top position although she only had about 0.12% of the entire Korean population (about 50m) who were the die-hard fans of hers.

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Thanks to this post, the world now has a record of how pathetic Lee Jieun's music video views were around August 2015.

And that is AFTER the producers raised her position in the sinosphere a bit.

Youtube views are important, and I have said quite a few times that thanks to BBiBBi, Lee Jieun can now call herself a Kpop singer despite of the inconvenient fact that she contributed almost nothing to it.

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Quote from selfmate

maybe after all gotta go where the $$$ is right - it'll be stupid not to follow the money

Lee Jieun had earned the most money in Kpop on 2017

https://www.allkpop.com/forum/…stimate-2012-2017.157483/

by domestic activities alone.

However, the climate has changed and now the trottists are running amok, and Lee Jieun probably felt she had to expand her reach in the overseas to stay relevant now the domestic market is full of trot.

Quote from selfmate

well IU's target market has never been the western market - she's beloved enough to be able to tour in Asia where they love her so. Her main market is and probably will remain Korea - and also I don't think anybody as ever called her a kpop artist she's more like a Korean artist since like you said her music is less kpoppie

That is true, but that leads to a very uncomfortable situation where a Senior Singer who has been in the industry forever has not contributed anything to KPop until quite late in her career.

She appears to be paying more attention to international fans, because of 1) money and 2) influence.

Quote from QueenMaknae27

If you're calling bbibbi a "kpop" then u should for blueming too. Blueming is popular among i-fans

Just 88M views after one year and 2 months. Not exactly a hit

BbiBbi had an average of 200k viewers for day, despite of the fact that it was released 1 year earlier than Blueming

Blueming had an average of 180k viewers for day

So the ifans preferred BbiBbi to Blooming.

Quote from MassiveKpopFan

So you're ignoring You & I, Good Day, and 23?

None of them are KPop songs and they were NOT that popular to the i-fans

Quote from QueenMaknae27

Wdym by not kpop

It's korean music so idk what the heck are u talking about

KPop is the kind of music which is likely to be popular among i-fans. For example no one calls trot KPop because trot is unlikely to be loved by the ifans

Quote from selfmate

Does it really matter if its a "kpop" song or not - does it matter if its a ballad or operatic or jazz or whatever - isn't the real question do you enjoy the song

Yes - listen to it enjoy it

No - Don't listen again

Why does it matter if its "kpop" or not

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A KPop song is the kind of song which makes international fans swoon. While BBiBBi was not exactly a normal "KPop" song it was popular enough among the world fans to approach a 200m view so it is considered to be a Kpop song.

It does matter whether the ifans like it or not since a song not liked by ifans is not Kpop

Quote from jungkookroots

It is a boring song.

It is kinda slow, which is why some people compare it to Chainsmokers.

A lot of people probably expected another Dolphin because it is written by the same folks who wrote that song, but she managed to make it quite bland

Lee Jieun has been in Korean Pop scene for 14 years but she only has had one single KPop hit, BBiBBi, on 2018.

Although she is KPop's Senior Singer, her greatest shortfall is that she was irrelevant to KPop fans around the world.

It seems her new song, whose music video was created by the same people who created the BBiBBi music video, is aimed for the world.

Some say it is in a BlackPink style.

Some say it is like Chainsmokers.

I think it is more like BlackPink, but in any case, KPop's Greatest Anachronism sung a song which appears to be catering to the world, telling every listener that he/she is a celebrity, which is kinda in a same vein with BTS' songs as well.

It looks like @dlwlrma finally has a second Kpop Song, although 2 KPop songs in a 14 year career appears to be too few. We might have to wait for 3 more years before she has another KPop song.