Posts by WhyKnock

Quote from itiswhatitisss

This. Koreans have always praised her songwriting, they always seem to resonate to Koreans and are the main reason why they're so successful. If you're not Korean or don't have a Korean explain it to you, it's hard for non-Koreans to understand and appreciate it.

It's not surprising seeing I-fans hate on a young, successful woman. Once I read the lyrics for Blueming and saw someone explain it, I learned to appreciate her songwriting alot more.

The main reason why Celebrity is so successful is again, because of the resonating lyrics telling you to love and enjoy yourself. Also her use of songwriting is really good, and these lyrics/message are really helpful during times of covid.

It is not really easy for i-fans to appreciate her lyrics since she bases her lyrics on years of Korean tradition which does not get translated. She even shows some hints of Buddhist philosophy in her songs. (She has no religious following but grew up in a Buddhist household)

Since Lee Jieun mostly writes songs for the Koreans, and only occasionally tries to relate with the i-fans like Celebrity, most foreign fans will never really appreciate her no matter what ; the i-fans who follow her are doing that because she is famous

Quote from HardcoreBLINK

No but she has yet to top bibibi

Out of all the songs she had released, BBiBBi is the only genuine KPop song making some mark outside of Korea, although this song is trying by using Ryan Jhun and some foreign composers.

Quote from Minazuki

No. She's a great lyricist, a good singer and have amazing songs. Why would she be overrated?

Celebrity is not one of her best songs, but I still enjoy to listen to it.

Her lyrics are Korean and it is hard for non-Koreans to appreciate it

Quote from koalaa98

In what world? lol

Not everything is about BTS

BTS basically started the love-yourself genre. That is what propelled it to the top of the world, and LeeJieun appears to be trying to follow that formula to advance her international career.

Quote from kfan2021

That song was meh. Why it got a pak is still a mystery.

The Koreans just swallow anything from KPop's Senior Singer, which is why.

Quote from ellenote

People can call her overrated but Korea still loves her and she'll still stay on top. Some of her songs are nice but I find them a little basic. But hey who am I to judge.

Lee Jieun used to release experimental songs until the Zeze controversy. After that, she grew too big to adventure, although she has met people doing hip hop and might release some songs in that genre in her upcoming album which has not been announced yet.

Quote from koalaa98

Does every other accomplishment disappear with one meh song(in your opinion)?

The song has such a nice meaning, I can't say it is meh.

It is her 2nd attempt to become part of KPop (and appeal to the world fans). She is trying to copy the BTS playbook, encouraging the world to love themselves.

Quote from peachyjoon

i like her new song, i don't think she's overrated. she's always been korea's little sister uwu

Not after she posted a certain photograph with a species of fish

Quote from jinaland

she was always overrated.

Yes. When she debuted on Sep 2008, she was hailed to be the person to end the group domination in Korean Pop. Right from the start Lee Jieun was overrated

Quote from amalyas

Yes but Korea and neighbouring countries dealt with the pandemic a lot more efficiently than the US or Europe. Everything is currently closed, including the borders for now, and there is no telling when concerts and cultural gatherings will be allowed again.

It's very brave of Celine Dion and Harry Styles to plan a tour this year, but with how uncertain the situation is, it might not even happen.

I think they do have to continue to have concerts to cover their loans since they would rather not sell their possessions for a loss.

In Korea, it is the companies bearing the losses (except IU, but she is domestic and is not subject to the lack of overseas concerts), and the companies do have to answer to the govt and the stockholders, making a fast action harder.

Quote from superyeah

Not a good idea even if outdoors and with decreased capacity. I'd rather this entire pandemic be completely over before such events take place again. I'm willing to wait just so everyone stays safe. It's better to just use this time to work on ourselves so we can enjoy all these great things once the pandemic is over.

Companies have to make money, though. Domesticists like IU and the trottists are doing fine, but acts who have to make lots of money from outside Korea are hurting

Quote from pchromo4

I doubt international kpop concerts will start again until idols get vaccinated and currently SK does not have a vaccination plan (they're waiting to see which vaccines are most effective). Kpop Concerts aren't coming back until 2022.

Idols and their staff will be getting priorities when they leave Korea. You know how the world works. They are like diplomats.

Quote from merribelle

I am holding tightly to my MOTS floor tickets

Hope you can use it this year. Yes, Koreans are really vulnerable to peer pressure, so even if foreign singers do have concerts, the Koreans might refrain because of govt influences.

Quote from jinsoulqueen

True. But, I can't see many rookie groups doing showcases and stuff. Especially, from small companies.

Yes that is unfortunate ; even SM's aespa was not promoted as much as it used to be.

Quote from amalyas

Mmmmmh, probably not.

They might resume local concert, and with their neighbouring countries maybe, but I can't see them going for a world tour in the US or in Europe that soon, unfortunately. Things are too uncertain now, and a world tour isn't something you can plan in a couple of weeks.

Actually it might be easier for them to do a foreign concert since a local concert will attract too many domestic attention like what the trottists had in september 2020

Quote from Elf_lover

Not straight away but if COVID ever buggers off they will resume shows. I’m sure the groups are missing them.

The money they are missing out is simply ENORMOUS. They will try to start overseas tours, which will be less criticized by Koreans as that occurs outside of Korea and do not affect them directly, as soon as possible

Quote from azhra-0110

Asians are less stupid when it comes to this and actually care about covid so I doubt it, they will keep doing online concerts through 2021

Or, more totalitarian. The peer pressure is enormous enough to discourage independent action.

Quote from jinsoulqueen

Only big groups like Blackpink and BTS.

Plus a few others who are popular, like Gidle. Acts like Dreamcatcher do have to go out since they don't make too much being stuck in Korea.

Quote from JinWifeu

No, I think Kpop groups will be doing virtual concerts all year.

Money. The money which can be brought from a real concert is significantly more than a virtual concert

Quote from ellenote

its stupid, why have concerts in the middle of a pandemic, like what is the thought process? You want people to see you perform a mediocre song that bad? Just go on live and do it there! Watch the cases go up more.

A lot of the acts in the billboard link I put in the main post are older, so their fans are older as well. And they are still planning to have the concerts.