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Quote from loneranger1

i have a feeling you are after BM cos they are the main threat to your faves. Wich oh my God, they are minors too. And you are here commenting like you are the higher person, while you are a minor, staning minors.

And before you change your user pic, that is an image from New Jeans Ditto. I like them too. But sure you must very angry too that the Makane is 14 . And oh, how old was she when she started working on the industry?

And one more thing

I don't want to support Min Hee Jin. She's a creep.
But on the same time, i like NewJeans Music, so I downloaded all of it.
I did the same with their MVs

Quote from loneranger1

i have a feeling you are after BM cos they are the main threat to your faves. Wich oh my God, they are minors too. And you are here commenting like you are the higher person, while you are a minor, staning minors.

And before you change your user pic, that is an image from New Jeans Ditto. I like them too. But sure you must very angry too that the Makane is 14 . And oh, how old was she when she started working on the industry?

I also wrote a Ditto inspired short story, feel free to read it. i posted it on my profile

Quote from loneranger1

i have a feeling you are after BM cos they are the main threat to your faves. Wich oh my God, they are minors too. And you are here commenting like you are the higher person, while you are a minor, staning minors.

And before you change your user pic, that is an image from New Jeans Ditto. I like them too. But sure you must very angry too that the Makane is 14 . And oh, how old was she when she started working on the industry?

Thats so funny. Why should I hate on Baemon just because I like NewJeans? I don't even stan them, I just really like their music, especially Ditto. It gives off a classy vibe and has a slight dark academia influence, which is my aesthetic.

And yes, Hyein is 14 and debuted when she was 9 years old in the group U.SSO GIRL. One of the Babymonster members, Dain, whose stage name is Rora, was a member of that group too and she and Hyein are (or where) friends.
I don't think this is okay at all and am sure that Hyein had to do things she didn't want to. Same for Dain.

And no, I am not going to change my profile picture, just because Haerin is on it. I just like the vibe of it and the fact that she is holding a book (I love books)

I'm not a K-Pop stan.
I used to be one.
But K-Pop distracted me very much from my goals. I am an author and have to focus more on finishing editing my book than K-Pop. I created an Allkpop account to discuss about certain topics, since I love discussing and getting to know other peoples opinion.

So thank you for telling me your opinion on all of this! Feel free to reply :)

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cant wait to see it!!!

I just shared it, together with a little self-introduction, on my profile. Feel free to give me some feedback :)

Quote from neigl

Yeah. Thats also a reason why i have such a hard time finding someone to stan. I will probably become a casual listener and leave forums and sns once they disband.

I also stopped being a kpop stan for that reason. I created an allkpop account to discuss some topics i think are interesting. honestly, for me, most K-pop songs and groups are just embarrassing. In general, being a K-Pop stan became embarassing.
The only group I am a fan of is NewJeans because of their music. Ditto is my favourite K-Pop song. But I mostly listen to classical music

Quote from neigl

Its cringe. But it works. Its the same reason why they recruit idols who look like babies and why they have to be thin without curves. Or why they better be simple minded like kids instead of having university degrees. It triggers instincts. Everyone likes babies and children and wanna protect them.

And that's how all these companies get rich. so disgusting actually

Can anyone tell me how to make a thread? I wrote a Ditto inspired short story and wanted to share it (I only wrote the intro just yet)

Who is your New Jeans bias?

Haerin, she is also my Ultimate Bias.

What is your favorite song on New Jean’s Debut EP?

Hype Boy :)

When did you start stanning the group?

They day they uploaded Attention

Finally, do you like mint choc Ice Cream?

It's my favourite Ice Cream flavor

Quote from neigl

It doesnt matter if its minors or not. If you dress adults in school girl uniforms and mini skirts let them act like children. The average western music fan will view kpop fans still as pedos even if you stan twice or bp or are even younger than your faves.

One question, how can I make a thread? I am still new here and don't know anything about how to use allkpop

Quote from neigl

It doesnt matter if its minors or not. If you dress adults in school girl uniforms and mini skirts let them act like children. The average western music fan will view kpop fans still as pedos even if you stan twice or bp or are even younger than your faves.

You're right. This whole aegyo thing is so weird, especially done by older Idols.

Quote from loneranger1

why you had to add 1+1 saying: Chiquita is 13 and Thai + Thailand is known for Prostitution. Is like you are making odd conections, that goes all the wrong ways. Disgusting

we should protect young idols from comments like THESE OF YOURS

think you misunderstood me. I don't think Chikita does have anything to do with all of this. But I wanted to bring peoples attention to the fact that in some Countries, these things are happening and Thailand is one of them. This has nothing to do with Chikita. But I still think that it's kinda weird her parents let her move to Korea at such a young age even tho they probably knew how harsh all of that is.

Quote from Help1

About GFriend isn't all K-pop stuff made for men and women of varying ages, all of them have an idea of what people want to see and just try to make that.

I don't really agree with what people say about Fearless being too creepy and sexual and stuff, even after watching it again and studying it more closely.

Which part of Antifragile is too mature, I watched the performance of it just yesterday. If you mean that "Gonna break out" part where they literally act out "Gonna break out", that is kind of random to me but not really mature

For Fearless, it's only the floor move being weird. And yea, Antifragile wasn't that mature but Impurities for sure

how can i even make a thread? I am new here
I wrote a ditto inspired short story and wanted to share it (I only wrote the beginning tho)

Quote from catzi

This type of thing about someone receiving less backlash because of their gender reminds me of this

People are reluctant to see mhj the way she is (a creep) because theyre too enamored with the girlboss idea of her and they see it as a direct attack to their faves, not even just njs but also hybe as a whole.

Now saying what goes behind the scenes is something else entirely, i do think that the degrees of severity depends on the company but i'd like to believe that bigger kpop companies hold their idols to a higher standard to avoid abuse, but its tricky bc behind the scenes theres A LOT of people involved.

It's crazy, because even in big companies in the West like Nickelodeon there's very ugly stories about abuse, and even bigger stars such as Angelina Jolie, Brendan Fraser and Terry Crews had to deal with abuse of power as ADULTS, you can only wonder how it can be in a scenario that is far more isolating (no contact with parents, sometimes not even with people that speak the same language as you) and these people are much younger, inexperienced and vulnerable (most of them dont even have the money to back them up). The trainee debt alone is something extremely fishy. How are the trainees going to pay if they dont have money? Are the trainees themselves expect to pay it or their responsibles?

Just some ugly things we know about: YG sabotaged the group of his now wife because he "fell in love with her" and he met her when she was 14 years OLD! Theres a lot of ugly shit going on behind the scenes, to be honest its almost impressive how the k-industry is able to hide it better than most.

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I forgot YG. The debut of Babymonster is so frightening. I mean, they have a 09 liner. Someone as old as me. And that girl, Chikita, is from Thailand. She probably had to move away from home when she was 11/12.

Also, Prostitution is quite common in Thailand. It's not even Illegal there:

Prostitution in Thailand - Wikipedia

Also, the article about SK:

Prostitution in South Korea - Wikipedia

Everything. About. This. Is. Disgusting

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This type of thing about someone receiving less backlash because of their gender reminds me of this

People are reluctant to see mhj the way she is (a creep) because theyre too enamored with the girlboss idea of her and they see it as a direct attack to their faves, not even just njs but also hybe as a whole.

Now saying what goes behind the scenes is something else entirely, i do think that the degrees of severity depends on the company but i'd like to believe that bigger kpop companies hold their idols to a higher standard to avoid abuse, but its tricky bc behind the scenes theres A LOT of people involved.

It's crazy, because even in big companies in the West like Nickelodeon there's very ugly stories about abuse, and even bigger stars such as Angelina Jolie, Brendan Fraser and Terry Crews had to deal with abuse of power as ADULTS, you can only wonder how it can be in a scenario that is far more isolating (no contact with parents, sometimes not even with people that speak the same language as you) and these people are much younger, inexperienced and vulnerable (most of them dont even have the money to back them up). The trainee debt alone is something extremely fishy. How are the trainees going to pay if they dont have money? Are the trainees themselves expect to pay it or their responsibles?

Just some ugly things we know about: YG sabotaged the group of his now wife because he "fell in love with her" and he met her when she was 14 years OLD! Theres a lot of ugly shit going on behind the scenes, to be honest its almost impressive how the k-industry is able to hide it better than most.

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I agree, the big 3 companies probably try to avoid these things. But that doesn't mean it's not happening at all.

If we look at Park Jin Young/JYP, he had a performance a while ago (2015/16? I think it was on MAMA) where he danced a VERY QUESTIONABLE choreography with a background dancer EVEN THOUGH he was married and had a child.

I found the Video: [J.Y.Park-Elevator] KPOP Concert MAMA 2015 | EP.2 - YouTube

And if you watch this Video and then think about 15/16 (at that time) years old Tzuyu having this man as her CEO...
If I am completely honest, I am so scared of Park Jin Young. I would probably run away if I met him in real life. The way he watched the TWICE members on SIXTEEN felt so... insinuating.

I never researched on Lee Soo Man so I don't know if he acts the same way but I always have a strange feeling when it comes to his groups. For example, that dance pose in Next Level... It's at 1:01 in the music video. It made me feel uncomfortable.
And also a lot of the NCT members tend to show their whole chests... It's kinda weird.

But the group who concerns me the most is Red Velvet. AND I found out why.

It's because of Min Hee Jin.

Their whole content in their early years has such a weird vibe. Especially Ice Cream Cake (It's one of my favourite Red Velvet songs tho, i like the melody. my favourite is Feel My Rythm by the way. I am a big fan of classical music and it's cool to see it being sampled in K-Pop)
Also, Peek-a-boo has a strange vibe. Joy was portrayed so weird when crawling on that table. And this whole Pizza guy concept.

Last but not least we have HYBE.
I am not familiar with most HYBE groups. The only ones I know are GFRIEND, Le Sserafim and NewJeans. Gfriend had this innocent concept, which is very sweet BUT I feel like it was made for men. I mean, most groups now are dedicaded to girls. The Idols try top be persons to look up to so Girls (Especially) want to be like them (I mean female Idols). But Gfriends concept...

And then LSRFM. Their dance move in the Fearless MV made me so uncomfortable. Like, the one they did at the floor. Eunchae was only 15 and Garam 16 at that time. Why would they do such a move? Also, the whole Antifragile and Impurities Choreo.. are so mature.

And LASTLY we have NewJeans. Well, he whole Hype Boy concept is weird. All of the guys looked at least 5 years older than the members. And especially the lyrics "I just wanna hear you're mine" or "Cause i know what you like boy"...
I mean. HypeBoy is such a cool song, but the MV concepts...
And then the thing with Danielle looking like Lolita in the MV. And also, giving her Lollipop to Haerin. This is sooooo weird. I mean, she licked on it already. Ew. What was Min Hee Jin even thinking?
And also Attention. I know, it was a concert they went to, but Min Hee Jin made it look like they where clubbing (at the beginning of the MV)

And... Cookie. Do I even have to say something? I mean, I really like the song because it's so catchy. it was my most streamed K-Pop song last year.
But the lyrics... THEY LITERALLY SANG ABOUT WANTING SOMEONE TO TASTE THEIR COOKIE AND WE ALL KNOW THEY DONT MEAN REAL COOKIES
14 year old Hyein sang that song.
So disgusting. Min Hee Jin is just disgusting

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newjeans name literally comes from a controversial calvin klein ads where a 15 year old brooke shields says theres nothing between her and her jeans mhj already said plenty of times her muse was brooke shields, her home is filled with controversial art involving minors, she had already involved with a controversial photoshoot when taemin was semi naked despite being a minor, then the cookie lyrics. One of nj members i think danielle had a photoshoot where she is dressed like matilda from the professional who was extremely sexualized by the creep director of the movie and only wasnt more because jean reno wasnt ok with it.

People that deny that mhj have lolita fetish are just embarrassing themselves

I think it's because Min Hee Jin is a woman. If she was a man, she would get so much hate.
People are kinda proud of her because she is able to have her own label despite being a woman in a male dominated industry.

I don't even want to imagine what happens to the NWJNS members behind the scenes...

Most of the K-Pop stans I ever talked to didn't believe me when i say K-pop is much darker than they think and actually worse than Hollywood (Because minors are involved).

I bet 75% or more of all Idols have/had to sleep with their managers/choreographers/producers/ceos to debut, especially if they don't look perfect or have that good skills.

I mean, for example, a CEO or Producer knows exactly what kind of members he wants for his group (Most of them have been in the industry for years) so why would they still accept so much trainees?

And why do these trainees need to live far away from their homes?

(I red the Novel K-Pop-confidential from Stephan Lee who interviewed a lot of Idols including SNSD's Jessica; in the story, the Main Character Candance who moved from New Jersey to Korea to be an Idol had to give her Phone away when she began training. Also, she wasn't allowed to see her mom for the first month; I believe this happens in real life to trainees as well)

Why do these Trainees have to be so isolated from the world?

Maybe because companies are afraid of being exposed?

And one more thing: I strongly believe former Idols aren't allowed to talk about all of this because of their contracts. They are afraid of getting blacklisted


So, 14 year old girls debuting... Is definitely not good in any way.

I mean, i am a 09 liner myself.
This is also why my English may be bad, sorry for that (Its not my native language)
Feel free to reply :)

Quote from neigl

sorry i guess you missunderstood me. true there have been such groups. mamamoo, gfriend, momoland, t-ara, exid, apink, girls day, oh my girl and more. you can even count bts in. thats why kpop was awesome. but as i said. they were able to chart and get big years ago. thats why i said we lost this ability. When was the last time a nugu group reached top10 of melon? or lets even say top50. it doesnt happen anymore. it seems all artificial now.

ah, okay, thats what you meant. yea, only big 3 ggs are popular rn

I cried when she said she wants to pay back her moms love... this is so heartbreaking

they are so cute:)))

Quote from catzi

the concerns about njs were absolutely valid after people found out min heejin have a lolita fetish and cookie's lyrics. one of these is already bad enough, but two... it only amplified exactly why its problematic to have minors in the industry.

people still deny that she has that fetish tho