Posts by gerrard174

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The charts are without any doubt in the most boring moment in Korean charts' history. Literally only G-Dragon (who is going to sweep all the awards related to digital korean charting) has done something relevant in the last 6 months. The ULs of the songs are almost static because there aren't new hits, and most risers aren't even making it into the top 10.

Good for records of the current hit songs which is the only thing people care about, but the situation is weird and boring as fuck.

You serious?

Jennie is fighting for #1 literally with GD

without the resources i doubt

To breakthrough a foreign market, especially US who looked down on kpop, it will need a lot of promo and playlisting.

I doubt they have sufficient funds to fund the playlisting, radio deals, tv show promotions etc

i think many f(x) edgy song would suit aespa, like Red Light, Electric Shock

Kinda hope they cover the above instead of Rum Pum Pum Pum 😭

the girls debut back in 2016. It has been 9 calendar years

If the fans back then was 13-22 years old, now they are at least 22-31 years old

Because they dont follow the traditional multiple comeback per year like most kpop groups. They have this image of exclusivity by releasing limited music, do not engage much with other kpop groups, limited appearance on korean music shows etc

Due to the above, their "comeback" really feels like a big thing in kpop. Just like how the western artists take years to release new album. It creates anticipation, hype and buzz. In kpop, comebacks happen every 3-6 months and it feels like fast food version of music

Quote from SooYoung

it's actually a criteria of twice flopping that nobody ever mention but it's actually true

and there's actually a term for this it's call "launch fatigue/ marketing fatigue" the fact of constantly spamming the market with your product is a good thing on the really short term which is the reason of Twice very successfull 2-3 years

but on the long term it have only bad sides, because the consumer gets tired, your product become banal and lost the attract because they are used to see your product, you're not building enough hype between the 2 projects so it end up in consumer being less excited for their comeback, the consumer consider this "spam" of product as a low quality product because they consider that if they are able to do so quickly they don't have much quality compare to another company who take their time to launch their project....

I think it's what mostly happen to Twice

Marketing Fatigue + the fact that JYP haven't been able to give them a concept that feels aesthetically interesting enough to build a lot of hype

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Twice was like Fast Food back then, cause too convenient to get new music. Every few months new comeback, alternating between Korean and Japanese releases. People over time get tired and burnt out. BUT it was sincerely an impressive run

I guess JYP needed that money they generate to fund new groups like ITZY, NMIXX etc. So JYP didnt let them rest and resulted in case of Jeongyeon and Mina

it is all about promotion and having proper US distribution

Do you guys realised aespa's albums in US have always been released later than korean version. So the timing doesn't coincide to give them sufficient charting points for album.

On top of that, very limited promo (playlisting and radio deal) for aespa

should leave aespa out from the comparison

They were so green when being thrown to coachella + their discography was not rich at that time.

If they perform at coachella now, it would be entirely different story with many hits under their belt

i dont think any kpop idol can come close to Gaga level of performance.

It was not only about the investment in set and props, but also the visuals, the storyline, the pacing, the diversity in sound + engagement with fans. When she brought up her electric guitar and piano, you know it is gonna be an awesome show.

And it was freaking 2 hours. Live singing + dance, She did that for non-stop 2 hours. On top of that, new choreo for old songs/hits, super impressive. Though she was a bit out of breath towards the 2nd half, it was still amazing for her pushing 40s

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I think Gidle, with 3 Chinese members (the nationalities do not matter for this purpose) , will be the first to tour China.

I wonder whether China has enough big stadiums. They would have stadiums, for sure, but their numbers are often unreliable.

3 chinese members??

Yuqi and Shuhua, who is the third?

Miyeon and Soyeon are Korean.

Minnie is Thai

omg 🤣🤣🤣

go go, pick up the momentum

Come over should climb the chart too. It is so catchy. It is also getting airplay in US radio

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This is why I threw Lesserafim in to the mix. Even though they've gone through a lengthy hate train, one of the worst we've seen, it looks like they will come out of it soon for the stronger. Internationally they are the biggest right now still, and they seem to be recovering in Korea as well based on Hot.

It's not too late for them, Ive or Aespa to stake a claim as a top 5 group in history. What if China opens back up to the K-wave as expected at the end of the year? A huge market that could put some of these earlier metrics of success to shame.

Aespa is not too shabby in term of international. They held up well on spotify, YT and applemusic.

And on top, aespa has big advantage in China.

it was lesseradim (but it was compounded with their coachella drama). But im glad fimmies are slowly regaining the momentum. Hot is climbing the chart, as high as #11

Quote from Yohanee

fx song recommendations? i only know hot summer, electric shock, and rumpapumpum

Title tracks - 4walls, red light, Danger, Nu Abo are must

bsides - Shadow, airplane, milk, all night, Dracula, papi, cash me out, rude love, jet

Quote from Slayurfaves

This group was meant to be a larger group though. it was initially 9 members. I don't know if you remember but since I've been following this groups since predebut I can tell you that YG always talked about wanting to have his YG's snsd version, but I think maybe because of his lack of experience with not working with larger group at that moment, he probably shortened it to OT5 and I think bc Miyeon left so then it became ot4. I actually don't think she was kicked out but rather she was tired of their debut being pushed back

Im aware of this. The OT7 and OT9 lineup. People like Jinny and kim euna, as well as moon sua etc. (Honestly, out of these I liked Jinny the most. She truly is a lost gem. When she debut with Secret number, you can see she has star factor)

But i think the plan fell through cause YG is just terrible in managing big group as evidenced by Treasure. YG just got lucky with BM with the way they are being managed

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I think people sleep on how much Miyeon had to improve to get where she is today. She wouldn't be the same vocalist today if she didn't focus on improving her vocals and Soyeon helping her along the way. I think she would get killed for dancing because dancing is one of her weakness, and blackpink songs will require more choreography than Idle songs.

I don't think her personality is dull and she shows a lot of personality in varieties. Miyeon was a bit shy at the start of Idle but it may be due to missing out on blackpink.

I think OT5 would have worked and would have been a nice balance for the group. I think the only worry is how does Jennie become the performer she is today without having a bigger role? I think she would get less singing lines if they were OT5.

I like Miyeon a lot but she would have got dragged due to being undeveloped during that period.

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That's exactly my point. Miyeon grew so much via GIDLE and under coach of Soyeon.

Had she been with YG, she will NEVER be the level she is currently.

And i totally agreed. I think had Miyeon debut with BP, both Miyeon and Bp will be dragged to hell for being uncoordinated dancer cause Jisoo was similarly in that position + Jennie "lazy dancing"

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In my opinion it was never a decision between Jisoo or Miyeon, it was either OT4 or OT5 and Miyeon was on the line. Shes so more much talented now, but in both videos she was clearly behind OT4

Also, pre debut Jisoo was POPULAR she appeared in dramas, mvs, was the most talked about along with Jennie, she was a sure in. Also, back then having the God level tire visuals was a key in any girl group, and an acting idol too. So it was always Jisoo in.

I always wonder why Jinny was cut, she fit the BP vibe so well, and was clearly on par talent/visual wise!

To be fair, Rosé has more advantage to the group than Miyeon:

1) Rosé is native English speaker

2) Rosé is a much stronger dancer. She is second only to Lisa in the group

3) Rosé is more versatile compared to Miyeon. Rosé fits both the soft ballad type of music as well as fierce girl crush concepts (Miyeon was always pointed out as not fitting in GIDLE's strong image in early days)

4) Rosé plays instruments and writes music. She is portrayed as the talented + sincere one in the group

Both are my bias in respective groups but i cant see YG picking Miyeon over Rosé

it was either OT5 or OT4

So i dont think miyeon will replace any of the 4 Bp member

Honestly, it was such a wasted opportunity for BP to be more vocally stronger. However, to note that Miyeon if included in the group, she will be dragged to hell for:

1) Poor coordinating in dancin

2) Dull personality and facial expression

Im a miyeon fan, but she has always been pointed out by neverland on the above...

Quote from CaraFIMIE

They experienced an overwhelming amount of hate that caused significant damage to their personal wellbeing but all you're worried about is...charting?

Like, in what reality was charting a good thing to bring up when discussing a group having pure hate being thrown at them out of nowhere and for no reason??

Is you coo..?

Noticed they brought up the following topic when NJ was fighting to terminate contract

- Will NJZ be considered gen 5

- NJZ will be the top GG of gen 5

So yea, all they care about is charting