Posts by gerrard174
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They are not going back to ADOR.
They cannot be forced to go back to ADOR.
The worst case scenario is paying the penalty fees for breaking the exclusive contract, should the courts rule it's still valid.
I wish people would let any other narratives die and stay dead, because I'm tired of repeating this.
The penalties - how the girls gonna pay for it? It is not going to be small sum given how successful they were - i.e. the opportunity cost suffered by ADOR gonna be HUGE
Or you think mummy MHJ will pay for them? Or maybe NJZ could get new investor that buy out their contract?
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On last part, I believe it is less about token stanning but more like aespa music has become more relatable/ less alienating.
There are many youtubers that analysed aespa career and concluded that since Spicy, their career become more commercial & marketable because they started to drop the references to Kwangya in songs. Though they keep the ae/kwangya concept in their album and concept, the songs on their own show minimal reference to kwangya (which in the past alienated many potential fans).
I dont disagree with this cause some of my friends got into aespa with songs like Spicy, Drama, Supernova, Whiplash. Black Mamba, Next Level, Savage & Girls are just too polarising for the song message and lyrics.
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the girls are too naive to still go along the HK concert not under NewJeans name. Not only the organiser referred them as NJZ but there were also merchs sold under name of NJZ. That can be solid evidence that they went against injunction and Ador will mofe than likely won the case.
I wonder, if NJZ is forced to go back to ADOR, will bunnies still support them? This would be a big dilemma for everyone. Would HYBE continue to promote them, knowing that they are not loyal? The girls will not give their 100% under ADOR but if they choose not to pay penalty then they have to stay.
I bet HYBE wish the girls are sued for penalty and close off this issue.
NJZ, if lose the case, should just go back to ADOR and slack there LOL
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Did NJ, Aespa, IVE or any other girl group ever had 3 PAKS with 4 consecutive comebacks? No! Did any of them won not 1 but 2 songwriter Awards? No!
Album sales in 2024 and 2025 with updated stats:
IVE: 3.1M overall
Gidle: 2.71M overall
Le Sserafim: 2.63M (including HOT album)
NewJeans: 2.60M overall
Aespa: 2.54M overall
Most songs in the TOP10 on Kcharts since 2024:
Gidle: 3
Aespa: 3
IVE: 3
NewJeans: 3
Le Sserafim: 1
Spotify overall:
NewJeans: 6B
Gidle: 3.9B
Le Sserafim: 3.8B
Aespa: 3.7B
IVE: 2.6B
End of discussion, you girl group "expert". 🤣
GIDLE had 4 consecutive PAKs
And also, GIDLE's spotify streams are boosted by the 3 KDA collabs. This may not be representative of the actual GROUP popularity. Removing these 3 KDA aonfs will leave them at 3.0 bil streams only. They are not better than LSRF and aespa
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but we all know whos gonna win this poll because theres so many mys here
Im both Dive and MY but let's not.
Aespa stats > IVE stats in almost all metrics except album sales. IVE had stronger start with their first 4 title tracks but the momentum has slowed down so much.
On top of that, aespa has much stronger global streams + YT views. They are not doing good on spotify only (one can argue about playlisting), but also on Global Apple Music and YT music
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Idol member dating and go into hiatus/apologise
Witch hunting on idol/group - lsrf is the best example of this
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IOI wont even be close to Red Velvet.
Their most popular song was Very x3 and it was a gift from JYP, an reject from Twice.
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B Tier - They do well in Selling Albums or charting well, but lack a little something to make it to A.
1. Stay C; They chart and sell well, Recent chart performances may mean they drop to C-Tier.
2. BABYMONSTER; Broke YouTube records and did well on global Spotify, finally charting top 200 in Korea.
you serious about babymonster?
Both Sheesh & DRIP charted top 10 on Circle Digital Chart. Sheesh was top 10 on melon while Drip peaked at #11 daily/weekly
They have done way better than top200
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Can’t speak for everyone else but imo what makes a top group in Korea is if it does well in domestic charts regardless of international charting etc
It’s why people call gg that do well in everything but domestic charting a bg
What made top groups in previous gens were consistent and stable charting in Korea regardless of international charting
But we are not debating about top 5 groups in Korea. When this forum refers to top5 , they consider everything otherwise spotify streams, world tour shouldnt and wouldnt be in the consideration
Domestic charting is just one metrics and almost all groups had their lowest point somewhere, even in domestic charting
We can't nickpick one metrics for lsrf and then disregard the rest for other groups. E.g. GIDLE and IVE have very weak global streams + youtube views. Aespa and NJ are more rounded nowadays. GIDLE's world tour is smaller scale. Aespa, IVE and GIDLE flopped on their US and/or Japan debut etc etc
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like JENNIE teaches top10 melon daily
External Content x.comContent embedded from external sources will not be displayed without your consent.Through the activation of external content, you agree that personal data may be transferred to third party platforms. We have provided more information on this in our privacy policy.Im actually very surprised at this song making to top10 ... Jennie is really the IT girl in korea (and world).
Even as a fan, i cant bring myself to love that song (i still listen to it alongside the album).
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Twice - Scientist (so childish and at that point of career...)
BLACKPINK - The Girls (can keep this song in dungeon)
NewJeans/NJZ - Supernatural (sounds like Bside)
IVE - Baddie (Needless to say, it is an experimental move but just not suitable)
aespa - Hot Mess (same, this one can keep in Dungeon. MV is great though)
LE SSERAFIM - Easy (i have a feeling it will soon be HOT, it doesnt sound like a bop)
GIDLE - Klaxon (downgrade version of Dumdi2)
Itzy - Gold (i thought Cheshire is bad enough but they hit bottom with Gold)
Nmixx - almost all (i was only interested by their bold songs O.O and Dice. After that, i find their music to be very plain)
StayC - ICY CHEEKY THANG (help)
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It meant to be like that.
The first song of lsrf albums since DEBUR have always been fashion show-ish intro with talking and no singing.
Fearless - The World is My Oyster
Easy - Good Bones
Hot - Born Fire
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Using korea sales knowing that the BP girls sold the albums via their foreign labels this time. Weird
