Posts by nenen-kim

SUJU + SNSD?

Something big is coming.
View counts from that collaboration is huge. Mnet wants to keep milking it but don't want to entangle themselves with future trouble, so they decided to edit her out entirely.

Another possible reason is Jinni's health issue. but unless Jinni's symptom is 'anxiety from seeing herself on the internet', I don't see any reason why they would do that without explanation. They could just announce to everyone that Jinni is having a health issue and ask for everyone understanding.

I also don't think that JYPE would be cruel enough to sacrifice Jinni for noise marketing.

This just doesn't make any sense.

Cherry blossom

Quote from BlackpinkHouse

My prediction: Special performance in MBC Gayo with Minju, MBC's granddaughter, along with Eunbi, Yena, Yuri, and Chaewon.

Chaeyeon?
Because Chaewon can't perform at MBC.

They are so cute.

Quote from SooYoung

For what ??

Some said it's for Eunbi's concert.

Some said it's for variety. (Fearless Kkura lol)

It can be both, but it can also be for entirely different reason.

Quote from Bananapple

Can you hear that, the baby is babbling here... Someone clearly said this is not Olympic but popularity contests 🤣. Owhhh, do I need to quoted that back or what 🤣 Someone cannot understand their own words unfortunately like a baby, how sad , do you need a bottle of 🍼 too cuz you look confused 🤣.

On the serious note, this is how kpop stans in twitter, they purposely forget what they just write to make themselves look the most right person alive. K...bye 😝

Just as I thought you couldn't be more childish with your reply. But whatever, I won't go down to your level.

1. I never claimed that Produce48 have more TALENTED trainee pool but better in overall QUALITY.
2. You misinterpreted my statement then continue to ramble about skills etc.
3. I explained my statement about 'quality'. Hence why I said it's a popularity contest not Olympic.
4. And the reason why I said so is that you can't really measure idol's quality simply by their talent in dancing and singing alone. The qualities which can be measured objectively like who run or swim faster just like in Olympic. The popularity decides your rankings in the competition. In the history of Mnet idols survival shows, the winners were never the one with the most talented in dancing/singing category.

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Don't bother to reply if you are not interested on being civil, let's stop ruining each other's day. At the end of the day, arguing about (what I claimed to be) 'quality' would simply lead to subjective argument.

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You the one who quoted me before with 'this is not Olympic but popularity contests', so what do you expect me to think on how your interprete the word quality here? Even in my first reply I am not only talking about talents but also the need of company training and star quality that is needed in an idol. Nobody actually thought that quality is about talents, what are you on, Lol.

And that sarcasms there, pfftt, you remind me with those middle schooler kids. At the end, I replied you based on your reply and you suddenly come up with popularity when you're talking about quality before. Make it make sense.

Bruh, you are the one who interpret quality as talent and bringing up skills, training etc.

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I'm sorry but do you really watch pd48 or gp999 😂?

Gp999's Japanese trainees skills alone much more better than the J-trainees in pd48 because most of them actually received a proper training from their company. The J-trainees in pd48 in the other hand coming from idol groups in Japan that didn't care about their idols' skills other than variety skills. The Chinese trainees in Gp999 is really skillful and having that star aura around them like Xiaoting. The Korean trainees is not even bad, most of them is really good too. I don't see how you can say that the quality of trainees is lower. It's the voting system and screentime didn't favor the C-trainees and J-trainees, most of them get eliminated too fast.

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So, I'll rephrase previous post:
Overall quality of the trainees from gp999 (singing, dance, visuals, stage presence, personality, charm, fan service etc) are lower than Produce48.

Quote from Disevidence

And so were 2 members of NewJeans. So your point is?

1 or 2 members getting paid for royalties is not the same as all members getting paid (or at least that what MHJ said in the interview).

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LOL, did you read yourself properly? You said yourself that the trainees in gp999 has lower QUALITY compare to pd48 which I disagree. I don't see anything about popularity in your words there. Popularity is not even reflected to the quality. If we are using your logic here, other gg in kpop has lower quality than Bp just because they're less popular than them, is it?

You should not give any comment about this if you're not watching both survival shows. Other than that, gp999 was more popular internationally and pd48 was in Korea, so both is relatively really popular in different market.

Are you new to Kpop? talent (specifically singing & dancing) is just one component of the quality of an idol. We won't be here talking about idol visuals, stage presence etc all day if Kpop is all about talent. I took much more than just talent to be an idol.

Yes, you are right, I have not watched anything, so I have no right to say anything. Gp999 is more popular more talent more whatever compared produce or something, awesome the best no 1.

Sorry I'm not bored enough to entertain someone that came up with that kind of childish argument.

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I'm sorry but do you really watch pd48 or gp999 😂?

Gp999's Japanese trainees skills alone much more better than the J-trainees in pd48 because most of them actually received a proper training from their company. The J-trainees in pd48 in the other hand coming from idol groups in Japan that didn't care about their idols' skills other than variety skills. The Chinese trainees in Gp999 is really skillful and having that star aura around them like Xiaoting. The Korean trainees is not even bad, most of them is really good too. I don't see how you can say that the quality of trainees is lower. It's the voting system and screentime didn't favor the C-trainees and J-trainees, most of them get eliminated too fast.

It's not Olympic, it's a popularity contest

Quote from KpopJop

2 of the NJ members have writing credits on the album, so maybe they’d already be getting royalties. As for the rest of the members I assume it’s the CFs like you said. That or ADOR just has a different system

I guess?
But I doubt Ador would have vastly different system. Not saying that it's impossible, but it's very unlikely unless NewJeans getting paid by flat rate (like royalties) or by wages, because you need to count the profit first before you can share it.

Quote from ISaidISaid

How do we know this

It's written on their financial report(?), or at least that what's BSH said in an interview.

Quote from BlackpinkHouse

Actually, Kepler's title tracks are way better than Izone's. WADADA is a SOTY contender, a 10 out of 10, and We Fresh is great as well, at least a 9. None of Izone's title songs rank higher than a 6, maybe Panorama can edge into bop category on a good day.

But it's not about the songs. It's about the group. Lee Soo Man was already too late when he tried to create his own Avengers of Kpop, since that title was already claimed by Izone.

Izone was simply the greatest collection of Kpop talent ever assembled in one group. I saw this on TW and it's very apropos - Izone's light shined so bright that no other 4th gen group could stand out. It was only when Izone's light was finally extinguished that the rest of 4th gen could be seen.

Thanks to this guy, I guess?

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Aside from the fact that Mnet can no longer manipulate the votes, the quality of the trainees of gp999 itself are far lower than produce48, so it's not that weird for Kep1er to be such an uninteresting line up.

Quote from Disevidence

Soyeon of (G)I-DLE earnt money from their Debut Album almost immediately

It's rare, but not unheard of.

Soyeon is one of the writer/composers for that album. Writer/composer get paid upfront or monthly from royalty fee.

Quote from KpopJop

how long usually before an artist earns from their album sales?

Depends on how the company doing their financial report, but let's say the album is profitable, then it usually would take 3~6 months.

2 months? I don't think that earnings came from their albums sales then.
I think it came from CF or brand deals because the artist usually getting paid upfront for this one rather than waiting for the company done with their financial reports.

Quote from ApexApinkPanda

It's amazing how the same company can create two groups yet produce such vastly different products. Also, I think La Vie En Rose is such an amazing song a blind, def, one legged pirate could perform it and it's still be amazing. Wake One is wasting so much talent. I feel sorry for those girls because they aren't being set up for the amazing careers that IZ*ONE got through no fault of their own.

IZ*ONE's musical and creative direction was handled by Pledis, which is also amazing for the fact that Pledis is notorious for destroying their own girl group for no reason.

Now I got into panchoa rabid hole because of you. I didn't know the existence of this website before this, but the comment sections were seriously hilarious.

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On topic. I don't trust anything that came from that hag Sojang.

Quote from desdesdes

the precious 3 sec

The rarer, the more precious it is. Especially true for Wonyoung and Sakura, they have the least interaction with each other and also with the rest of the members. Now that Minju has left the idol scene, Wonyoung and Sakura became my ultimate bias, so I'm craving for their every interaction.

1. Le Sserafim - Double their sales, from 400k to 800k. Weirdly it's very similar to IVE, will they also double their numbers in the next comeback like IVE did?
2. NMIXX - Not as amazing as Le Sserafim but still showing an upward trend (490k to 550k). And now they are losing member, will they also be getting meteoric growth like Gidle and LSF?

3. Kep1er - Having a very significant drop in every release (400k - 350k - 260k). I think their constant chance of concept really took a toll on them. Constant infighting within fandom doesn't really help them either.

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well actually 5, but seems like Wonyoung still busy doing her MC thing so..