Bon Boyage is more entertaining but I'm sure BTS and staff prefer In The Soop.
Yeah, with In the Soop they don't have to worry abt the logistics of travelling or fans following them around.
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Bon voyage and it's not even close
Agree. Honestly, 'In the Soop' feels very boring to me, idk why. I feel like just one or two episodes is enough for that type of content. Maybe if the setting is in BTS's natural environment, that type of content will be more interesting I guess, e.g. if they live separately then they filmed from their own apartement, or if they still lived together at the dorm then we got to see their daily life at the dorm (without revealing too much personal info ofc).
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Yep. I did a massive doubletake after i saw IU's recent album numbers.
393k for Lilac.
Shit is INSANE. Her sales almost quadrupled since she came out with Palette which did 107k.
It's the popularity of all things Korean in the past 10 years. I think Gangnam Style was the shot across the bow, a warning of what was about to happen in Kpop. Then came EXO and BTS and BAM, everything just exploded. Including K dramas and cinema, even Korean food and mukbangs.
And as for OP, people have been predicting the collapse of Kpop since it first started 25 years ago lol. I remember my parents calling it a fad, they are die hard trottists. There will always be ups and downs in any market, but i highly doubt Kpop will just collapse lol. It would take a worldwide depression/catastrophe to do that. More realistically, i think things will plateau at some point. Which would be just as well, i doubt any of the big boys in Kpop will be complaining about 1M album sales per comeback lol.
Yeah, back then Top BoyGroup with all its gimmicks and fandom bulk buy had a hard time reaching 300k mark, but now a freaking female soloist can do it.
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what soloists are you talking about tho? bc if you mean someone like baekhyun thats a different story. but fair enough. correlation obviously doesnt automatically equal causation. but there is no other reason kpop companies would be that excessive with photocards and album versions if they didnt see any profit in it. if people were willing to buy the same amount for less content... best believe kpop companies would be fine with that
The one thats fairly popular internationally tbh, whats first come to my mind is Taeyeon and IU, both can crack 200k mark multiple times since 2017-now, Taeyeon's most popular album "I" was at 100k+ sales mark by the end of 2015, so from 100k to 200k for her, thats almost double the sales, she manages to double her sales eventho her previous album was much more popular imo. Also back then during 2nd gen era only 4/5 acts (all idol group) managed to reach 200k sales mark (with all their gimmicks and fansign events), but now even a soloist can easily reach that mark without as much gimmick as Idol group did. And yeah I never said the amount of gimmicks didn't affected album sales AT ALL, it's just not as big as a lot of ppl think, in my opinion.
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album versions ,never to the extent it is now. and photocards def weren't either. in 2nd gen one pc per member per album was the standard. most groups only had a single album version too. now each version of the album has a different photocard set, thats 3-5 sets, 5-12 members, and there are preorder sets that are different for each store that sells the album, sometimes 5 more sets.
idt you're understanding how excessive it ACTUALLY is rn.
if things had stayed exactly as they were in 2nd gen, sales never would have increased this much. literally every top 5/6 bg can hit 1million sales. its no longer an exclusive club. bts was literally pushing the envelope for a non big 3 group when they did 2 version for their hyyh albums back in 2015
Dude I know how excessive it is now for idol groups, but I still don't think thats the main reason for the rise in physical sales. Otherwise, soloist and non-idol acts album sales would've stay the same (since in general they don't really do gimmicks like idol groups do). But their sales still rising massively nonetheless.
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part of what you're saying is true, but the point about no correlation just isnt. its a fact that the average bulk buyer bulk buys MORE nowadays specifically bc of the increase in photocard and album versions across the board. when a bg goes from 3 versions of an album to 4 or 5 the next cb, the sales increase is exponential. same with the photocard version increase. there are literally groups with like 50 pcs available for ONE cb promo cycle.
Honestly I'm still not convinced, I'm pretty sure that practice exist since 2nd gen era as well. I remember SJ-Mr. Simple album had 2 different versions with 10 different cover for example, so thats basically 20 diff versions (and thats not counting the photocards). Another reason why I'm not convince by "bulk buy/gimmicks=massive rise in sales" is bcs the rise for physical sales happened all across the board, whether its a soloist or a group, majority of their album sales are rising in the past few years, eventho in general "non-Idol acts" don't really do gimmicks as far as I know.
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Imo, there's not that many correlation between bulk buying and the 'rise of physical sales' as much as a lot of Kpop fans tend to think. Bulk buying existed since 2nd gen era, yet album sales keep decreasing at that time. The main reason why the current kpop album sales market can be as big as it is today is bcs of a better Kpop album distribution WorldWide, which also explain why old groups like Super Junior and Shinee manage to break their album sales record with their latest comeback eventho they're much less popular rn compared to their heyday (no offense). So, unless the interest for Kpop WW suddenly drop, I don't think Kpop album sales will took a nosedive.
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When is their contract up?
2022 or 2023 Ig. Some groups sign their contract long before their debut.
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Thats why I'm asking, cause iirc I didn't see 'Savage Love remix' being mentioned by OP or the tweet, eventho SLR was partially in Korean. But now the tweet got deleted Ig.
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Where is this from? Whats the link?
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800k+ is the new 1M+
800k+ is the new 1.3-1.4M+ for me, which only IU and popular variety/TV show acts can reach rn. 1M+ was doable for regular hit back then, similar to 500k/600k+ ULs after 24Hits reform now, just like 'Rollin' which peaked at 500k-600k++ ULs, cmiiw.
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Lol must be pretty awkward for idols off camera
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definitely... idol group fans moved from melon to easier charts to chart on like bugs and genie. melon thought making top100 will win them back, but things just dont look right for them anymore. youtube music also coming for their spot
i hope gaon eventually realizes the significance of youtube music in korea, next level couldve gone #1 if they counted streams from yt music... also i hope they weigh down downloads a bit and weigh streams more
I'm not sure abt weighing down downloads, afaik Gaon Digi Point basically shows you how much money a song generated. So, ofc downloads will weigh a lot more than streams.
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a sign for melon to bring back the realtime system... and better start counting from 1am-7am kst again like they did pre-july 2018 lol
Lol maybe they will in the future, if they keep losing subscription/streams. They changed the 24Hits to Top100 pretty fast after all, not even a year after 24Hits got implemented. That 24Hits system really took a toll on their users activity I think.
