Is calling a women who cares for men issues too a MRA another way to insult women as Pick Me’s?

mens rights????

When have they been oppressed?

What rights are they fighting for?

I think you have opposing views to alot of users here

I have read your exchanges with them and tbh I dont see either side budging on their lines, which is fine

Extorting to name calling when you cant see eye to eye with someone is childish.

Personally I just walk away from those conversations bc most people stick to their confirmation bias.

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mens rights????

When have they been oppressed?

What rights are they fighting for?

Sandy said nothing about men's rights.

men's rights to shut fuck up

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Well men in Ukraine are being forced to stay in the country and aren't allowed to leave so they're stuck in a warzone for being born male.

Which is life threatening. Plus think about in Korea men are forced to join the army while women don't have to.

And avoiding it gives you a criminal record.

are being bound by rules that men themselves have created

You guys are poor debaters. Do a better job at reading one's argument or just try to be intellectually honest.

MRA really isn't something you wanna associate yourself with lmao

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Sandy said nothing about men's rights.

MRA

Men's Rights Activist

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Sandy said nothing about men's rights.

Mra= men's rights activist

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Well men in Ukraine are being forced to stay in the country and aren't allowed to leave so they're stuck in a warzone for being born male.

Which is life threatening. Plus think about in Korea men are forced to join the army while women don't have to.

And avoiding it gives you a criminal record.

I would take this argument into consideration if men weren't vocal about how women are not suited for military

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Mra= men's rights activist

She didn't say she aligned with MRA, she asked if caring for men's issues warrants to be insulted and be called an MRA.

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men's rights to shut fuck up

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are being bound by rules that men themselves have created

Honestly... yes

poor men !

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Don't see what that has to do with the point that men in Ukraine aren't allowed to leave the country and have to remain in bomb zones.

Oppression against men does occur you only have to study South Korean law with millitary to know that those with religious beliefs against war were thrown in prison.

this is not oppression, these norms are ACCEPTED by men and if they don't want to go to the army, MEN should fight for it and not women

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Don't see what that has to do with the point that men in Ukraine aren't allowed to leave the country and have to remain in bomb zones.

Oppression against men does occur you only have to study South Korean law with millitary to know that those with religious beliefs against war were thrown in prison.

Women have been excluded from the draft because they're viewed as weaker and the military is generally still a toxic place for women.

Misogyny that comes back to bite men in the ass does not make oppression 🙅🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️🤷🏾‍♀️

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Well men in Ukraine are being forced to stay in the country and aren't allowed to leave so they're stuck in a warzone for being born male.

Which is life threatening. Plus think about in Korea men are forced to join the army while women don't have to.

And avoiding it gives you a criminal record.

So are the women in Ukraine?

It's not a gender specific thing

And with the draft, men decided the draft was q good idea so take it up with them.

Women are fighting for rights against people who have oppressed them since the beginning of civilization.

What rights are men fighting for specifically?

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She didn't say she aligned with MRA, she asked if caring for men's issues warrants to be insulted and be called an MRA.

here's the quote, since you seem to be lacking reading comprehension 🙂

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This makes me a WRA and a MRA…

I wouldn't call you a pick me, I would call you a fool

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this is not oppression, these norms are ACCEPTED by men and if they don't want to go to the army, MEN should fight for it and not women

Or perhaps they're willing to die for their mothers, sisters, wives and daughters.

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Or perhaps they're willing to die for their mothers, sisters, wives and daughters.

ok

Okay, so this thread will be interesting.

And, from what I have seen, quite a few users do seem to think you are a "pick me" if you will OP.

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She didn't say she aligned with MRA, she asked if caring for men's issues warrants to be insulted and be called an MRA.

Except she calls herself an MRA

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Well I’m a woman’s right advocate and an advocate for gender equality…I want no gender war and I think both genders should work on that… so technically I care about men issues too. This makes me a WRA and a MRA… short I’m for gender equality … even though i know some use it as another way to insult woman with a different opinion on gender issues if they can’t call them a Pick Me’s or in Kpop an Oppalogist.

Looks more like an issue of not understanding what MRA actually is beyond the name. To answer the OP, it really depends on the circumstances that leads to being called a Pick Me or an MRA. Especially since the OP has been known to say some...questionable things to say the least.

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Or perhaps they're willing to die for their mothers, sisters, wives and daughters.

Ergo a choice and not oppression. If men want to put themselves in dangerous situations because they've decided women can't protect themselves, that is solely on them.

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Don't see what that has to do with the point that men in Ukraine aren't allowed to leave the country and have to remain in bomb zones.

Oppression against men does occur you only have to study South Korean law with millitary to know that those with religious beliefs against war were thrown in prison.

Men made the rule to stop women from enlisting in most part of the world

It's not nice, but what do you want us to do about it? Men are in charge of rule making, they can change that of they want

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here's the quote, since you seem to be lacking reading comprehension 🙂

"This makes me a WRA and a MRA…"

to those who "use it as another way to insult woman with a different opinion on gender issues if they can’t call them a Pick Me’s or in Kpop an Oppalogist".

That's the meaning of her post when you take it as a whole and you don't cherrypick one convenient part that fits your narrative. Or maybe you really think she has a membership card at the official MRA local club?

Anyway it's kinda pointless, plus she bailed out of her own thread. It's gonna end up in the dumpster fire section for sure.

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You guys are poor debaters. Do a better job at reading one's argument or just try to be intellectually honest.

Hey, without Straw Men, the entire Internet message board industry would collapse!

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I'm just answering a question?

Idc who put the law in place or how it's happening but fact is men have no legal choice in many places which is an oppression against a gender.

Not every man wants to go to war many have religious beliefs against it.

If you don't care about the who, the how and the why, then how can you call it oppression

Men that chose to put themselves there by excluding and looking down upon women. They have plenty of legal choice and political power to get rid of the draft. The majority of the governments are composed of men and especially in misogynistic places like SK, it's hard to cry oppression. Ukraine refused to recognize women that defended the country a few years ago as active fighters and they were never compensated for their work.

How Women Forced Ukraine to Welcome Them Into the Military

Russian attacks in 2014 prompted civilians to fight alongside soldiers—and push for equal opportunities within their ranks.

slate.com

Opposing the draft is one thing but calling it oppression of men is an offensive reach

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No only men specifically aren't allowed to leave.

Between 18-60. Women are allowed to leave and hundreds of thousands have already.

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because they look down on women and don't think they can fight

They literally had laws against them fighting?

Women's rights is a fight against men and the patriarchal system, who are men fighting against?

Girl you even defended Seungri. Stop talking about gender equality.

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They're not accepted by the men who don't want to go to the millitary.

And men can oppress other men. The viewpoint that all men should be fighters is in itself a stereotypical generalisation by men true but one all the same.

This isn't about women i just saw someone say what oppression is there against men.

Well the millitary is one of them and most women also believe men shouldn't be forced so we are really on the same page for the most part.

Why are you getting defensive about this. There just is this one thing that men face oppression with the fact you're so mad about it makes no sense.

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stfu

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well, this is awkward

just enjoying this debate (if that what this is...)

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to those who "use it as another way to insult woman with a different opinion on gender issues if they can’t call them a Pick Me’s or in Kpop an Oppalogist".

That's the meaning of her post when you take it as a whole and you don't cherrypick one convenient part that fits your narrative. Or maybe you really think she has a membership card at the official MRA local club?

Anyway it's kinda pointless, plus she bailed out of her own thread. It's gonna end up in the dumpster fire section for sure.

The "convenient part" I picked out was literally answering your question?

She said "this makes me an mra"

So she is claiming to be a men's rights activist.

What part of this is hard to understand ?

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mens rights????

When have they been oppressed?

What rights are they fighting for?

im a man and i have this question too lol