At least 100k in physical album sales for GG, 200k for BG
At least 1 national hit (Cheer Up, Next Level) or near national hit (Red Flavor, Dalla Dalla) for GG
Many sasaengs for BG (SM)
Bad dancing or bad singing controversy for GG, bullying controversy for BG
A lot of ifans + big fanbase in Korea
Undergod narratives


