A suggestion to mods/admins about the Giselle section

What about akorns?

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What about akorns?

OMG this is such a good question

lol, just found out that section. Oh boys. I were about to make a thread related kpop problematic, but I was thinking nah. I was curious how many similar situation to giselle had happen before, so I search on youtube. It turns out alot. This shocked me. Most of them are way worst than what Giselle did, and it's involved lot of kpop big groups. It also repeated pattern and behavior too. Some of the offense are botherline racist. Are we ready to open a can of worms? Should I created that thread since this is relevant to kpop not just Giselle? Are we ready for the discussion since the whole Giselle brought our attention related to this issue?

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What about akorns?

you think you have enough akorns for your faves comeback, but suddenly you are -500

thank Yumeku

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Before the emptying due date, transfer your akorns to a peaceful user (ME) who doesn't participate in that section very often as a safe keeper. Then I will definitely give it back to you when your favs come back. I will never use it for my own gain unless my account suddenly got hacked by black mamba or something.

this seems very trustworthy, transfering my akorns right away!

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lol, just found out that section. Oh boys. I were about to make a thread related kpop problematic, but I was thinking nah. I was curious how many similar situation to giselle had happen before, so I search on youtube. It turns out alot. This shocked me. Most of them are way worst than what Giselle did, and it's involved lot of kpop big groups. It also repeated pattern and behavior too. Some of the offense are botherline racist. Are we ready to open a can of worms? Should I created that thread since this is relevant to kpop not just Giselle? Are we ready for the discussion since the whole Giselle brought our attention related to this issue?

The dumpster is not a Giselle exclusive thread. It just feels like it because this is the most recent issue. Some cases have been talked to death and revived in the old akp.. some were surprisingly swept under the rug.. but to bring back all, like you said, is just wanting to cause problems because some offences were done way back before people were aware of it being offensive. It may sound unbelievable but many were so desensitised to racism in the past, that most didn’t recognised it.

For example, as an asian, the toothpaste Darkie, did not seem offensive to me but when it became Darlie, with explanation on why it was changed, I became aware of the negative connotations of the said product. This means that awareness are slowly creeping into the global audience but you really need to understand that many still learning. So to dig the past is really unnecessary, let’s focus on the current ones.

Don’t click this if you can be triggered by race issues (it came from America, so how could non American know it’s not right?)

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The dumpster is not a Giselle exclusive thread. It just feels like it because this is the most recent issue. Some cases have been talked to death and revived in the old akp.. some were surprisingly swept under the rug.. but to bring back all, like you said, is just wanting to cause problems because some offences were done way back before people were aware of it being offensive. It may sound unbelievable but many were so desensitised to racism in the past, that most didn’t recognised it.

For example, as an asian, the toothpaste Darkie, did not seem offensive to me but when it became Darlie, with explanation on why it was changed, I became aware of the negative connotations of the said product. This means that awareness are slowly creeping into the global audience but you really need to understand that many still learning. So to dig the past is really unnecessary, let’s focus on the current ones.

Don’t click this if you can be triggered by race issues (it came from America, so how could non American know it’s not right?)

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Yea, I got it. That is why I am not thinking of making it. I thought it involves only a few groups but there were way more than that. it kinda shocked me how many there were.

Just found out that Lee hi had a somewhat similar situation like Giselle, but she fully sing the N word, and laughing about it. I am not sure this have discussed here before because I never heard of it. Anyway, there are many more.

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this seems very trustworthy, transfering my akorns right away!

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Before the emptying due date, transfer your akorns to a peaceful user (ME) who doesn't participate in that section very often as a safe keeper. Then I will definitely give it back to you when your favs come back. I will never use it for my own gain unless my account suddenly got hacked by black mamba or something.

the only trustworthy person to anybody's akorns is selfmate obviously!!!!

I thought that section was made specifically for controversial threads with sensitive content. But last night, I had a comment congratulating abs for his hit thread moved to that section, I'm so confused.

I personally don't like the idea and think it will only encourage more hate and troll behaviour which we see enough of here.

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Nothing wrong with people venting and telling others that something is wrong. In fact, it's needed but it is wrong when it's not about the actual issue and rather spamming x idol is racist, x idol is misogynist...etc. ie canceling specific idols and telling everyone to cancel them every time and everywhere the idol is mentioned; but then ignore their fav doing the same thing "because back then their fans didn't know better". Don't single someone from the beginning for hate in unrelated posts. Instead, talk about the issue itself imo.

Good point. I agree.

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The dumpster is not a Giselle exclusive thread. It just feels like it because this is the most recent issue. Some cases have been talked to death and revived in the old akp.. some were surprisingly swept under the rug.. but to bring back all, like you said, is just wanting to cause problems because some offences were done way back before people were aware of it being offensive. It may sound unbelievable but many were so desensitised to racism in the past, that most didn’t recognised it.

For example, as an asian, the toothpaste Darkie, did not seem offensive to me but when it became Darlie, with explanation on why it was changed, I became aware of the negative connotations of the said product. This means that awareness are slowly creeping into the global audience but you really need to understand that many still learning. So to dig the past is really unnecessary, let’s focus on the current ones.

Don’t click this if you can be triggered by race issues (it came from America, so how could non American know it’s not right?)

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The Chinese name for it literally is '黑人牙膏＇which means' black people's toothpaste'

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Your comment probably got caught it the thread break. I will search for it and move it back.

no it is alright, i am not bothered. my point is i thought the section was specifically for sensitive and controversial topics that some people might not want to see, but now it feels like your regular troll and bickering troll threads are getting moved there too, which kinda dillutes the importance of the section imo.

please don't make an effort to go through the thread just to find my post lol